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weirdbeard

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #180 on: January 24, 2010, 03:58:40 pm »
Another little review - http://hollywoodandfine.com/fineblog/?p=461

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“Four Lions,” a dark British comedy about suicide bombers (yes, you read that correctly). Four would-be jihadis – all British-born and bred – have formed their own little London cell, despite al-Qaeda’s apparent lack of interest in their activities. They argue about the meaning of Islam and jihad, while they go about the inept planning of their own martyrdom. It’s brilliantly, darkly funny at times (including the scene of a suicide bomber being prematurely detonated when he chokes on something and receives an impromptu Heimlich from a passerby), though undoubtedly bound to be controversial for making light of this deadly subject. (Still, as someone who prides himself on being able to decipher even the thickest British accent, I can honestly say that I missed big chunks of dialogue and decided this is a film that should consider subtitling before it’s offered to American audiences.)

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #181 on: January 24, 2010, 03:59:47 pm »
Getting motion sickness from a shaky camera? That's the least cool thing I've ever heard.

Remember - that little YouTube pixel sized 'juddery shake' will be magnified considerably on the big screen. Take a sick bag with you.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #182 on: January 24, 2010, 04:03:10 pm »
Couple of pictures for those avoiding the articles in case of spoilers.



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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #183 on: January 24, 2010, 04:12:49 pm »
'Nother positive review - http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/four-lions/5009960.article

No major spoilers.

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Chris Morris goes for extreme laughs and perilous political incorrectness in Four Lions, a farce about a gang of British Islamic terrorists who can’t bomb straight. Daring and potentially offensive, this hilarious satire may be too biting for its own good.

Four Lions treads on the limits of what distributors and broadcasters might tolerate. Commercial potential should be good in the UK, where Morris is better-known, while a US release may be limited to urban arthouses and cable comedy channels for young audiences – if lawsuits from opponents don’t shelve the film first.  Media attention might help build a public appetite for Four Lions, however, as it seems certain to be labeled anti-Islamic and irresponsible toward the terror threat in the UK.

The “Four Lions” are four would-be jihadists who band together in London to redress mistreatment of Muslims as they plan a decisive bombing to send the world a message. As with most plans by amateurs, these terror gambits go wrong at every turn, culminating in some major blunders.

The farce’s madcap pace has much in common with classic Three Stooges episodes, and with Armando Iannucci’s political satire, In the Loop,  yet Four Lions focuses more on violence, using the rebels’ hare-brained bombing plans for its gags.  The film’s scenes of destruction are some of its funniest – and potentially most controversial.

Proving that terrorists are people too, the cast juggles the testy mix of anger, credulity, dogmatism and incompetence that make failure a foregone conclusion. These wild scenes would be safely and preposterously unimaginable, if recent troubling events in the news did not resemble the satire’s fiction.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #184 on: January 24, 2010, 04:13:54 pm »


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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #185 on: January 24, 2010, 04:16:00 pm »
Christ, don't let Blue Jam see that scarf.

An tSaoi

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #186 on: January 24, 2010, 04:17:49 pm »
The comparison to In The Loop fills me with hope. If it's half as good as that...

And what sort of lawsuits could "shelve the film"?

weirdbeard

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #187 on: January 24, 2010, 05:23:08 pm »
Another positive review, more comparisons being made to In The Loop
http://www.indiewire.com/article/2010/01/24/review_almost_a_masterpiece_four_lions_an_explosive_comedy

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In the opening scene of “Four Lions,” a group of British would-be terrorists attempt in vain to make the ideal suicide tape. It’s not the first time that such risqué bloopers have been depicted in narrative form - both “Paradise Now” and the short-lived Showtime series “Sleeper Cell” contained similar moments - but it’s certainly the funniest. Chris Morris’s tragicomic portrait of jihad gone awry zips along with many of these contemporary references points in the service of humor, yet pulls off an unlikely feat by avoiding any kind of outright spoof. The characters are no laughing matter; instead, their bumbling tendencies suggest a universal human fragility: The joke is on all of us.

Shot with a handheld documentary style, “Four Lions” contains an engine of rapid-fire dialogue reminiscent of last year’s hit British satire, “In the Loop.” Similar to that movie’s wink-and-nod snapshot of political mismanagement, situational comedy meets a dramatic counterpoint. The quartet of Islamic radicals in Morris’s movie fully believe in the vitality of their mission, which serves to create a grave undertone throughout the story. They seem so likable — so like us! — that the impending possibility of their collective demise creates an almost unbearable tension.

The anchor of the plot involves two jihadists with opposing perspectives: A cool-headed young leader in possession of the intellectual drive to get the job done, and a brutish pundit whose incompetence continually dooms the group’s plans. “I’m the most Al-Qaida of all,” he insists, embodying the pathetic need to belong that often guides blind ideology.

Morris’s brilliant direction notwithstanding, his plot does suffer from a malady similar to the one plaguing the aforementioned pundit. The team fails to center on a target for their imagined violence, and nobody bothers to explain a precise motive. Like “In the Loop,” the specifics are left to viewers’ imagination, but in this case that limits the extent to which their conundrum feels credible. Coupled with a few uneven plot holes (particularly the leader’s ultra-supportive but apparently level-headed wife), “Four Lions” stops just short of becoming a masterpiece.
   
But it comes *this* close. Morris, a popular British comedian known for his offbeat antics, crafts an unusually endearing chemistry shared by his goofball freedom fighters that harkens back to “The Three Musketeers” in its rudimentary entertainment value, while at the same time delivering a bleak backdrop that informs each scene. Impending doom is rarely this much fun to watch.

Although the director refuses to color in the details of his subjects’ clandestine plot, satire lingers just outside the frame. Morris views terrorism as a complex bureaucratic process comparable to many others, but stops just short of sympathizing with its failed ambitions. Instead, with the barrage of tactical misfires, he implies that the whole system suffers from internal dysfunction. The off-the-cuff dialogue leaves plenty of room for interpretation, but Morris’s overarching perspective is obvious.  As the opening scene concludes, the leader makes an astute observation about the unfinished suicide tape: “They’re all bloopers,” he says, perhaps understanding more about his situation than he would like to admit.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #188 on: January 24, 2010, 05:27:56 pm »

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #189 on: January 24, 2010, 05:37:26 pm »
Huge thanks to The Boston Crab and weirdbeard for the non-spoiler-y information and photos.  Much appreciated.


Remember - that little YouTube pixel sized 'juddery shake' will be magnified considerably on the big screen. Take a sick bag with you.

Yes, in my case it probably didn't help that I was sitting less than six feet away from a 32" screen.


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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #190 on: January 24, 2010, 05:43:08 pm »
So I was at the screening last night, and I really liked the film.  It was different than I expected.  It wasn't especially joke-dense - definitely a very character and relationship driven movie.  I was shocked at how touched I was by it, honestly.  It's a bit sad, too.  Defintely don't go into it expecting Brass Eye - there are jokes about death by explosion, but they aren't as... aesthetically assaulting as Brass Eye.

I hesitate to compare it to In the Loop.  On paper, they're very similar, but they're very different in execution.  I laughed a lot more at In the Loop, many more jokes.  I cared every bit as much about Four Lions, despite the fact that it's about a much less sympathetic subject.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #191 on: January 24, 2010, 05:50:32 pm »
Thanks very much for that - good to hear.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #192 on: January 24, 2010, 05:52:18 pm »
Now everyone's job is to cross their fingers that Chris agrees to come on my radio show today or tomorrow.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #193 on: January 24, 2010, 05:57:02 pm »
Now everyone's job is to cross their fingers that Chris agrees to come on my radio show today or tomorrow.

I can do that; I have fingers.

Ta for the wee, spoiler-free review.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #194 on: January 24, 2010, 06:01:51 pm »
Now everyone's job is to cross their fingers that Chris agrees to come on my radio show today or tomorrow.

*crosses fingers*

While you're here I'd like to thank you for TSOYA - the shows are excellent.

An tSaoi

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #195 on: January 24, 2010, 06:01:59 pm »
Any posters (as in those big papery things with pictures and writing on them, not message board users) surfaced yet?

weirdbeard

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #196 on: January 24, 2010, 11:32:35 pm »
Another review, a bit mixed ("What I am certain of is that "Four Lions", comedy or not, is a genuine odd duck of a film.") and a bit spoilery in places

http://www.ifc.com/blogs/indie-eye/2010/01/four-lions.php

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2010, 12:09:51 am »
*crosses fingers*

While you're here I'd like to thank you for TSOYA - the shows are excellent.
I've wanted to say this, but I knew I would gush.

Massive thanks for JJGO too. And I am half way through enjoying the amazing College Years archive, the interplay between Jordan, Gene and yourself is fantastic.

(What's Gene up to now adays? I've been wondering).

(/gush)

hoverdonkey

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #198 on: January 25, 2010, 08:12:21 am »
A word of warning. Don't be tempted to read the Independent review on page 3 of today's paper. It's a nice big splash for the film, but again, it's spoilerfuckingrific.

The Boston Crab

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #199 on: January 25, 2010, 09:19:33 am »
WHY?! Why would they do it, though?

Are they fucking STUPID?

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #200 on: January 25, 2010, 10:09:11 am »
Lots of movie goers actually like spoilers. They don't want to spend their money on a movie without knowing exactly what they're getting into.  That's why movie trailers give away every last fucking detail of a film and almost always feature the final shot of the film.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2010, 10:14:22 am »
People are cunts.

A.A

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #202 on: January 25, 2010, 10:18:03 am »
God I get pissed off when I hear/read Americans complaining about not having subtitles because they don't understand the "thick" British accent.

I'm Australian, but FOR F**** SAKE! OPEN YOUR GODAMN EARS!

Ahem. Sorry. Carry on...
 

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #203 on: January 25, 2010, 10:27:03 am »
In this country we have guides explaining what people are saying in The Wire, so it's not as if we're blameless for that sort of behaviour. It's difficult to tell just how indecipherable it would be to an American, though perhaps they're less used to our range of dialects than we are with theirs.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #204 on: January 25, 2010, 10:31:28 am »
Isn't The Wire difficult because of the lexicon and jargon, rather than the accents? I dunno, I haven't seen it. The shame.

The Boston Crab

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #205 on: January 25, 2010, 11:22:48 am »
I think you're right about simple familiarity with dialects, Shouldies but you're WRONG (HA! HA!) about The Wire. I'm sure it's a lexicon issue, as hoverdonkey says. They might be better off with some of the low-rise slang but the police terminology is deliberately authentic/exclusive.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #206 on: January 25, 2010, 11:29:16 am »
Yeah, that's true. I guess I was thinking that part of the not understanding would be the mixture of the usual British phrases with some more typical northern British Asian phrases. Mix in the unfamiliar dialect and to someone who is fresh to that whole culture it's...

...still pretty easy.

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2010, 12:11:19 pm »
I've been reading some of the reviews and it certainly looks really promising. Its a slight shame that it comes out at a time when sad incompetents have tried stuff even more ridiculous than is in the film, but it just goes to show the validity of what Morris seems to be arguing.

Who is likely to be more pissed off by this, the politicians who are wed to the idea that terrorists are an ideological and existential threat to our 'way of life' or the terrorists who are made to look a bit silly?

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Re: Four Lions to premiere at Sundance
« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2010, 01:21:53 pm »
Would love to be able to hear a recording, or to know, what Morris was saying in his address to the audience there.

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