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Trainspotting 2

Started by holyzombiejesus, September 08, 2015, 04:30:13 PM

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An tSaoi

Visually it seems strong.

Custard

The twenty years line made me do a laff. The Facebook Twitter line made me do an arghhh

Worst film since The Suicide Squad

non capisco

Will it have anything as crap in it as that montage from the first film with the Pearly King and Queen when Renton goes to London?

Dex Sawash


thraxx

Quote from: Puce Moment on November 03, 2016, 11:15:27 AM
I found all the call-backs quite annoying - especially given that Porno is refreshingly free of little nods.

I felt exactly this.


mobias

Quote from: Puce Moment on November 03, 2016, 11:15:27 AM
I found all the call-backs quite annoying - especially given that Porno is refreshingly free of little nods.

Quote from: Puce Moment on September 08, 2015, 06:55:45 PM
Porno really wasn't very good at all



Sam

Quick, hit him with a stick!

Puce Moment

Porno really is absolutely awful. Like all post-Marabou Welsh.

An tSaoi

Hang on, isn't the original meant to be the eighties?

So twenty years later would set be the "noughties" (urgh).

Mark should be buying top-up for his Motorola flip phone, not going on about Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Okay, 2004, 2006, 2010 respectively, but a lot of them didn't catch on until much more recently. That monologue feels very Current Year.

So is the original meant to be 1996? I always thought it was a bit like Grease, i.e. it's meant to be a period piece but it feels more like its production era.

This is Still Game all over again.

"Choose Myspace, choose LiveJournal, choose Bill Clinton advertising ifreeclub on Limewire..."

marquis_de_sad

Quote from: An tSaoi on November 04, 2016, 01:27:25 AM
Hang on, isn't the original meant to be the eighties?

The original is set in some weird convoluted piece of spacetime that is both the late 70s/early 80s and the 90s.

Uncle TechTip

It was the nineties, confirmed by the club they visit and Tommy's range of sell through football videos. Heroin-drenched nineties felt like the eighties.

Noodle Lizard

Quote from: marquis_de_sad on November 04, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
The original is set in some weird convoluted piece of spacetime that is both the late 70s/early 80s and the 90s.

You mean Scotland?

Beagle 2

I definitely always thought it was no later than 1990 - fuck off was in 1996 anyway. He seems surprised and impressed by ecstasy and dance music.

Shaky

#73
Quote from: Beagle 2 on November 04, 2016, 06:16:41 AM
I definitely always thought it was no later than 1990 - fuck off was in 1996 anyway. He seems surprised and impressed by ecstasy and dance music.

Isn't it more that he's on a rare "normal" night out rather than doing the old skag?

kidsick5000

Quote from: Beagle 2 on November 04, 2016, 06:16:41 AM
I definitely always thought it was no later than 1990 - fuck off was in 1996 anyway. He seems surprised and impressed by ecstasy and dance music.

It's not too great a leap to think that someone mainly into punk and Iggy Pop and heroin would dismiss dance and raves as shit then suddenly make a discovery when they finally see it live.

Beagle 2

It wasn't set in 1996 though.

greenman

Quote from: marquis_de_sad on November 04, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
The original is set in some weird convoluted piece of spacetime that is both the late 70s/early 80s and the 90s.

Its called Scotland.

Hangthebuggers

from IMDB

QuoteThe film doesn't intend to explicitly detail around what time it is set, and instead it hints its timeline through the music, as director Danny Boyle has stated in the making-of interview. Boyle also claims that it is set more precisely around the late 1980s. There are, throughout the feature, some suggestions that it may actually be set in the early 1990s, such as the techno music and a scene on which the characters talk about "Russian" sailors (which means that the Soviet Union may have already ended). Anyway, Trainspotting can be set anywhere between 1987 and 1993 (the year the novel was released).

marquis_de_sad

The novel is basically a collection of short stories with a timeframe that's not explicitly laid out. The film reflects this. Actually it embraces this, as it means the references can be all over the place in the classic 90s style. In terms of clothes, usually references are all to the 80s. I mean, look at Renton's jeans and Irvine Welsh's Exploited t-shirt:



But then at other parts of the film, they look very 90s. Look at Spud, Renton and Sick Boy's t-shirts here:


mobias

Tommy catching and dying from AIDS in a relatively quick time period dates it to the 80's, not much else does though.  The time setting does seem deliberately ambiguous.

imitationleather

Even if it was before the HIV test (EDIT: which it isn't because I just remembered they get tested in the film) and treatment that worked it'd still take at least a few years from catching it to actually die. I think that part of the film is just using artistic license.

Quote from: mobias on November 04, 2016, 06:44:56 PM
Tommy catching and dying from AIDS in a relatively quick time period dates it to the 80's, not much else does though.  The time setting does seem deliberately ambiguous.

Technically he died from toxoplasmosis and not looking after himself at all.

Noodle Lizard

Quote from: Default to the negative on November 04, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
Technically he died from toxoplasmosis and not looking after himself at all.

Well yeah, nobody actually dies from AIDS, they die from having a lowered immune system.  If everyone who got toxoplasmosis died, half of the world's cat owners wouldn't be long for the world.

I think Freddie Mercury died of a common cold, technically.

Yeah but what I meant is that even if there were drugs and treatments available, Tommy was in too much of a slump to bother with them.

He wasn't like, "Aw Rents, the doctors tell me I've got a good chance if I take my pills and do this and that."

He was all resigned doom and gloom.

Noodle Lizard

Quote from: Default to the negative on November 04, 2016, 07:55:30 PM
Yeah but what I meant is that even if there were drugs and treatments available, Tommy was in too much of a slump to bother with them.

He wasn't like, "Aw Rents, the doctors tell me I've got a good chance if I take my pills and do this and that."

He was all resigned doom and gloom.

Yeah he was a proper shambles.  I bet Kevin McKidd's regretting dying in the first one now.

EDIT:  Just realised he's one of the priests in the infamous Lingerie Section bit of Father Ted:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beN7FftWNCM

I've seen him in that, Rome and Dog Soldiers. Nothing else.

He was pretty good in Rome. One of the main characters.

Mango Chimes

It moves from the 80s into the 90s.  The length of time the film spans is pretty vague (appropriately), but it's a linear progression rather than being just a vague single year.  Although the characters don't visibly age, a lot happens, and there's a bunch of elipses in there (off the top of my head, I'm not sure they state how long Renton was living in London[nb]That montage sequence is wonderful, you idiot.[/nb], for example.)

mothman

McKidd got his own show in the States at one point. Called Journeyman, I think, he did a credible American accent too. Lasted one season. It was about a journalist who travels in time for some reason.

Dex Sawash

Tommy's a doctor on something my wife watches. ER or Grey's Anatomy or somesuch

The Masked Unit

Quote from: Dex Sawash on November 05, 2016, 02:29:00 AM
Tommy's a doctor on something my wife watches. ER or Grey's Anatomy or somesuch
Fuck me you're right. Mind blown. I'd have never twigged that in a million years.