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Just 17: The Final Corbyn Thread?

Started by Konki, April 19, 2017, 07:56:41 PM

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jobotic

There's an urgent need to destroy employment rights? No I don't agree.

Brexiters do though, but hate him - what a strange world.

pigamus

Quote from: Quango on April 20, 2017, 02:51:41 PM
Imagine being the kind of person who believes the electorate want a revival of the Blair and Mandelson years.

That's exactly what they want.

Dr Rock

Imagine being the kind of person who wants a revival of all them Middle East wars of the Blair and Mandelson years.

BlodwynPig

Quote2711. Posted by Chappers on
3 minutes ago
It's obvious he's trying to tap into the 'us and against' them theme, to rally against the establishment. Unfortunately, Corbyn conveniently forgets that Labour IS establishment, and he's personally been part of the establishment for over 30 years...and THAT is why I am going to vote Conservative


Blinder Data

Is this the place to talk about Unite? Can't be arsed starting a new thread:

Quote from: https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/trade-unions/news/85253/len-mccluskey-rival-gerard-coyne-suspended-unite-after-pollsUnite have suspended Gerard Coyne, the senior official challenging Len McCluskey to be general secretary of the giant union.

Maybe there's something to it. But just after polls close, it looks dodgy as fuck.

BlodwynPig

In the Metro today

"The Government are taking Britain's largest trade union, Unite, to court in order to try and strip them of their name. A senior official told reporters that the name "Unite" was trademarked by Theresa May's Conservative party back in 2016 and was an essential part of the upcoming election campaign. He went on to say that the PM did not want the name to be sullied by association to such an untrustworthy and corrupt organisation"

jobotic


Pit-Pat

Corbyn's message currently being discussed on BBC News. So far he seems to be going about it in the right way - anti-establishment, anti tax-dodging. Might strike a chord if it gets reported widely enough.

TheFalconMalteser

Seb Corbyn lined up for a safe seat (edit Paul Waugh says no. He'll just stay working for McDonnell...)
McCluskey suspending his rival while the votes are being counted.

They really do try and test you, don't they!  Good luck with that anti-establishment new politics Jeremy.  Seriously, what a bunch of crony twerps.

Absorb the anus burn


TheFalconMalteser

Ohh Dawn Butler may have crashed and burnt on R4. Looking for a link.

jobotic


Eis Nein

Quote from: Ian "Parrot" DuntFor a moment this morning it looked like Labour might do something interesting. Jeremy Corbyn was asked about holding a second vote on whatever Theresa May's final Brexit deal was and refused to answer. John McDonnell was asked several times and also refused to answer. The Labour leader even offered some passably coherent comments on the dangers of a WTO fallback option and the intricacies of trade networks.

It seemed for a second that the shock of the general election might have forced Labour to get its act together on the issue. Maybe it would even adopt a policy on it. But within hours these hopes had been put to bed and normal service was resumed. "A second referendum is not our policy and it won't be in our manifesto," Labour's spokesperson said.

So we're back where we were with Corbyn's Brexit policy: He "accepts" the vote, he wants no second referendum, his demand for the talks is limited to tariffs only - a lower benchmark than May has set for herself - and he opposes membership of the single market. Labour is a pro-Brexit party. You might think they would deliver a softer Brexit, but that is an article of faith or intuition. It is not a matter of policy.

Doom was inevitable. He's marching to it not serving most of his party support, not serving the 50 million who didn't vote Leave and not being on the right side of history. I've never known anyone so efficient at losing in every direction.


Quote from: Pit-Pat on April 20, 2017, 04:42:01 PM
Corbyn's message currently being discussed on BBC News. So far he seems to be going about it in the right way - anti-establishment, anti tax-dodging. Might strike a chord if it gets reported widely enough.

Stop. Why. No.

TheFalconMalteser

Erm Dawn Butler just accused Costa of tax dodging.  Inarticulate, then went "ummm from memory. not definitely".

colacentral

She was just on BBC news 24 for ten minutes and made a good show of herself, despite twice being asked "would you prefer Andy Burnham as leader?" as if that's fucking relevant. Any chance a tory will be asked "would you prefer Michael Gove?" Thought not.

Fuck off TFM, you worm. What happened to getting behind the party for the election? All you've been doing is sniffing out bad press, like a pig after truffles.

Zetetic

For comparison, Iran's upcoming presidential election will have televised debates, but they won't be live.[nb]I have to admit I'm not really clear why the distinction, but I suppose it does change the atmosphere a bit.[/nb]

Zetetic

Full Fact has written a letter regarding purdah rules:

QuoteIt is equally important that the [purdah] guidelines do not stop public bodies that are independent of government informing voters and making sure we all get the benefit of the statistics, research, and analysis that we have all paid for when we need it most.

The UK is unusual and extremely fortunate in having a range of trusted independent public bodies that can serve to inform public debate, ranging from the UK Statistics Authority, to the Economic and Social Research Council and other research councils, to the House of Commons Library, and more.

We invest in quality official statistics and rigorous research because government should not fly blind. Voters should not have to either.

However, in the past the guidelines have seemed to suggest that statistics, social research, and other independent analysis should be less available and these bodies should be less responsive at election time than at other times. We are already seeing concerns that public bodies may not provide information or responses that would help inform the debate during this election.

Crabwalk

I am in a twitter debate with Eddie Marsan about Corbyn. Another 'progressive' person who'd rather have a huge Consrvative majority than back Labour in a GE with Corbyn at the helm. Logical when you're a multi-millionaire I guess.

Konki

I guess some traditional Labour supporters may be considering not bothering to vote because Corbyn has consistently proven himself to be incompetent. I can understand that point of view but I'll still be voting Labour despite Corbyn. It shouldn't need saying but not everyone who thinks Corbyn is next to useless is a closet Tory.

TheFalconMalteser

Eddie Marsden is great, and clearly cares about supporting the working classes and not pissing about losing MPs.

Dawn Butler has had to tweet an apology to Costa after accusing them of tax dodging.  Amateur.  Day 2.  A manifesto?  Election footing?


Crabwalk

Quote from: TheFalconMalteser on April 20, 2017, 07:54:04 PM
Eddie Marsden is great, and clearly cares about supporting the working classes and not pissing about losing MPs.

Such a big fan you can't even get his name right.

Crabwalk

David Quantick's piled on me now. I'd be honoured but it was with a rubbish joke that doesn't work.

TrenterPercenter

#83

TheFalconMalteser

Quote from: Crabwalk on April 20, 2017, 08:24:31 PM
Such a big fan you can't even get his name right.

You've got me there, spelling mistake on Eddie Marsden, my achilles heel.

TheFalconMalteser

Quote from: Crabwalk on April 20, 2017, 06:55:39 PM
I am in a twitter debate with Eddie Marsan about Corbyn. Another 'progressive' person who'd rather have a huge Consrvative majority than back Labour in a GE with Corbyn at the helm. Logical when you're a multi-millionaire I guess.

He's voting for his constituency MP who he names and thinks is great.

Frankly the idea that people like him should start lieing and pretend Corbyn is acceptable isn't honest or principled.  When Corbyn praised the IRA and chaired Stop the War, back to when he involved himself in BAZO anti-Zionist campaign groups in the early 80s, or signed up Tariq Ali as a member in one of his first acts... the man made clear he is a fucking fool.

He's a joke. It's not fair to expect Marsen to change his mind now. He is destroying the Labour Party.

Crabwalk

#86
Quote from: TheFalconMalteser on April 20, 2017, 11:48:05 PM
It's not fair to expect Marsen to change his mind now. He is destroying the Labour Party.

Quote from: Marsdam's latest tweet
I've always voted Labour, always will but we held  the people handing out the socialist worker in the same contempt we held the NF.

The same contempt. No wonder he was so angry in that Mike Leigh film.

Paul Calf

Imagine a Tory saying "I have always held the 1922 Committee in the same contempt I hold Stalin and Mao"

Wouldn't happen. And Marsendeman thinks it's Corbyn who's destroying the party. No self awareness.

Konki

To be fair to MARSMAN, and I'll grant you what he said is fucking stupid, Jezza is a lot more responsible for the party's lack of coherence what with him being leader and all.

Having said that I've just seen something about how May is asking her MPs to write in with policy suggestions. You'd think she'd have that covered seeing as she's already called the election. She's just as fucking incompetent.

BlodwynPig

Saw Corbyn on the bus today
Dishing out advice, a fiver a pop
I asked him about the IRA and BREXIT
But he got off at the next stop

Saw Theresa May at the alter today
Praying to some strange gods
Her eyes were wild and her mouth all frothed
Wearing a pair of blue marley pods