We need to talk about Tekken

[thehungerartist]

Tekken is a fighting video game franchise created, developed, and published by Namco. Beginning with the original Tekken in December 1994, the series has received several sequels as well as updates and spin-off titles.

Registered users of this chat forum can use this thread to discuss the respective merits and demerits of Tekken, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, Tekken Tag Tournament, Tekken 4, Tekken 5, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, Tekken 6 and Tekken Tag Tournament 2.

Source: Wikipedia

[Bazooka]

Love the series,mainly because of Yoshimitsu who I have always mained in Soul Calibur as well. I always prefered the Soul series, but both have excellent mechanics.

[ASFTSN]

The best of the 'big three' fighting game series, in my opinion.  The chess of beat 'em ups.  Probably peaked with Tekken 2 or 3 though.

[Chairman Bodog]

King's ending in Tekken 2 is like a cheese nightmare.

https://youtu.be/NpADzMddO5Q

[asids]

I like it because it's the only fighting game I can win with button mashing. Also the cutscenes are quite shit but good at the same time.

Quite like this ending from Dark Resurrection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhL6c6l548&t=1m9s

[Shay Chaise]

The best of the 'big three' fighting game series, in my opinion.  The chess of beat 'em ups.  Probably peaked with Tekken 2 or 3 though.

I enjoy it but it's so far from SF'S 'fast chess plus RPS'. This is Tekken to me:



I really liked playing with Eddie and Xiaoyu because of the gorgeous flow and animations chaining moves together but it is incredibly spammy.

My brother once beat about forty Chinese dudes in a row in an arcade by more or less spamming that one move by Law. They were furious and I was starting to feel quite embarrassed and nervous but that's the game. He eventually just walked away from the cabinet when I said that I was hungry, which pissed them off even more.

Great days.

[ASFTSN]

I enjoy it but it's so far from SF'S 'fast chess plus RPS'. This is Tekken to me:



I really liked playing with Eddie and Xiaoyu because of the gorgeous flow and animations chaining moves together but it is incredibly spammy.

My brother once beat about forty Chinese dudes in a row in an arcade by more or less spamming that one move by Law. They were furious and I was starting to feel quite embarrassed and nervous but that's the game. He eventually just walked away from the cabinet when I said that I was hungry, which pissed them off even more.

Great days.

Spammers eat shit in 99% of fights if you know what you're doing, surely?  Granted Eddie/Xiayou (particularly the former) had annoying run on combos that were a button-mashers dream but if you side-step out of the way just so they're wide-open.

Likewise with Law's double backflippy shit you posted there - if you block the second one successfully he's got a long recovery time and if you pop him with a quick punch his rhythm's fucked.

It's been a while, mind.

[ASFTSN]

Arguably the concerns over Eddy and the capoeira bullshit probably meant T2 was the superior game.  He felt a lot like he was there as a higher frame rate demo character.

[Thursday]

Is Tekken 7 going to feature the best character ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXbicVj3HEs

[marquis_de_sad]

Tekken 2 and Killer Instinct were the only fighting games that I ever learned long combo strings for. Didn't really help much, as I was still shit.

[Swoz_MK]

I've played them all but just can't get into it. Watching the Pros play it does nothing for me either.

[ASFTSN]

Tekken 2 is one of the only console games I ever saw my dad get properly into.  He was into PC gaming with me and my siblings when I was very young but that sort of dropped off as I became a teenager and the inevitable gulf between embarrassing parent and petulant child widened. 

Tekken 2 was the exception.  Me, him and my brother used to have epic winner-stays-on matches with no clear end in sight.  Once when I was in year 7 I came back late from playing Quake at the house of a 'friend' that I didn't actually like very much, to find my dad sitting in my room, the rest of the house fast asleep, and him in his dressing gown trying to memorise some of Yoshimitsu's combos.

[Chairman Bodog]

Once when I was in year 7 I came back late from playing Quake at the house of a 'friend' that I didn't actually like very much, to find my dad sitting in my room, the rest of the house fast asleep, and him in his dressing gown trying to memorise some of Yoshimitsu's combos.

I love that sort of thing.

[marquis_de_sad]

It's always Yoshimitsu, isn't it?

[doppelkorn]

One New Year's Eve (probably '98/'99) I got pissed for the first time on Stella stubbies and we completed Tekken 2 as Paul with his fireball fist thing. Our parents were at some party so they just locked all the kids in the house with some lager and a PS1.

[Chairman Bodog]

Phoenix Kool punch up swaying to the blaze of the twin towers - https://youtu.be/nLRi7jl_UT0

I posted that in the OST thread. It's got to be the funkiest theme track in PlayStation history.

[ASFTSN]

It's always Yoshimitsu, isn't it?

He also played as Anna quite a bit, but I thought that made the anecdote sound slightly unseemly.

[Spiteface]

One of the things I love about Tekken is the inevitably bonkers designs for Yoshimitsu that come with each new game, that don't even have an explicable evolution anymore:

[MojoJojo]

Since we're talking about Tekken and someone might know, what does the word "Tekken" actually mean?

I'm hoping it translates as "Provisional chess license" or at least "pleasant barney".

[Consignia]

Since we're talking about Tekken and someone might know, what does the word "Tekken" actually mean?

I'm hoping it translates as "Provisional chess license" or at least "pleasant barney".

Boringly, literally "Iron Fist". As in the King of The Iron First tournament which the games are about.

[MojoJojo]

You're right, that is boring, but thanks anyway.

Poncy bitch slap would be a more pleasing name.

[Consignia]

I am, of course of, lying. It actually refers to a very perverse sexual practice, untranslatable to Western sensibilities.

[Chairman Bodog]

I like my dressings to be bukkake.

Maybe Tekken is a food turned porn term to mean 'big fisted'.

"How do you like your chunk fillets, sir?"

"Tekken away in the box."

[greenman]

I enjoy it but it's so far from SF'S 'fast chess plus RPS'. This is Tekken to me:

I really liked playing with Eddie and Xiaoyu because of the gorgeous flow and animations chaining moves together but it is incredibly spammy.

My brother once beat about forty Chinese dudes in a row in an arcade by more or less spamming that one move by Law. They were furious and I was starting to feel quite embarrassed and nervous but that's the game. He eventually just walked away from the cabinet when I said that I was hungry, which pissed them off even more.

Great days.

That doesn't really seem like an example of spamming so much as timing well but really I would argue Tekken was a bit less about timing and control of distance than Street Fighter. The key dynamic tended to be in the combos and misdirection, basically second guessing when you were going to go to the head, body/legs with your attacks plus the potential for throws.

[ASFTSN]

That doesn't really seem like an example of spamming so much as timing well but really I would argue Tekken was a bit less about timing and control of distance than Street Fighter. The key dynamic tended to be in the combos and misdirection, basically second guessing when you were going to go to the head, body/legs with your attacks plus the potential for throws.

Exactly - Street Fighter is ENTIRELY about timing, to the point where I consider it to be something of a zen beat-em-up, you have to know your arsenal of a mere handful of moves and their timings down pat.  I consider it to be extremely elegant and minimalist.  It's why I'm not very good at it and don't like playing it.

Tekken's vast movelist and combo potential means you can approach it in any number of ways and tailor the exact type of style you want, whether that's throw-based, juggling, etc.  Timing isn't so important (although it is still important) because there's so many other variables.  It's 'maximalist' compared to Street Fighter.

And as much as I wanted to love Mortal Kombat and think it's got the best atmosphere of any of these games, I think it's always been, unfortunately, a little bit shit.

[madhair60]

I've never managed to get into Tekken. The fighting seems so... reserved, maybe, that's the word. I always loved the speed and crazy projectile nonsense of Capcom and SNk fighters. But I love Soul Calibur so maybe I ought to give Tekken another go. The only one I've got at the moment is 6, though. Which one is the best Tekken? I have PS3.

[TheWoodenSpoon]

I was really into this series up until around Tekken 5, at which point it sort of lost me with the inclusion of Jinpachi the Cheating Fucking Cheap Bastard. Yeah yeah boss-only character but still utterly ridiculous and it just suddenly ruined things for me (although I'll readily accept that you can only kick the shit out of Heihachi as the final boss so many times before it gets stale).

Anyway, Kazuya was generally my main character (I used Jin in Tekken 3 for obvious reasons), and in my little circle of Tekken players I was usually annoying to play against because:
a) Kazuya has a reliable moveset which punishes bad timing (with easy moves such as Dragon Uppercut).
b) I practiced a bit more than they did :U
So of course when Tekken Tag Tournament happened I had Kazuya and Jin at my disposal, which was pretty much a guarantee that during a "winner stays on" session, I'd be "on" a lot. Then I'd go and fuck it all up by using Jack or someone shit like that who telegraphs their attacks a full week before they land.

Four-player TTT was a fuckin' hoot, too. Caused all sorts of misery when it came to untangling everyone's controller cords though.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

I've never managed to get into Tekken. The fighting seems so... reserved, maybe, that's the word.

Same here. I think maybe it's because of the way the animations chain together, but it's never felt all the responsive. In a Capcom game, you press 'punch, punch, kick, punch , kick' and your character does just that. In Tekken, they'll do the first two punches and then stop. I had the same problem with Mortal Kombat X.

Never once have I played Tekken and actually known what I was doing. I'm sure some fighting game aficionado would argue that it offers a much deeper, more rewarding experience than the Capcom games. They'd be a smelly freak though.

[marquis_de_sad]

I was really into this series up until around Tekken 5, at which point it sort of lost me with the inclusion of Jinpachi the Cheating Fucking Cheap Bastard.

For reference. What a hateful cunt.

[TheWoodenSpoon]

For reference. What a hateful cunt.

Fucking disgusting, isn't it?