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"It is 2021. America is under oppression by ultra-liberal extremists..."

Started by Blumf, March 10, 2006, 11:02:02 AM

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Blumf

http://accstudios.com/f/comicpreview_page_covera.htm
QuoteIt is 2021, tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of 9/11. America is under oppression by ultra-liberal extremists which have yielded governing authority to the United Nations. It is up to an underground conservative group (known as F.O.I.L.) led by Sean Hannity, G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North to thwart Ambassador Usama Bin Laden's plans to nuke New York City.

And a general synopsis of the story here : http://accstudios.com/f/synopsis1.htm

The thing is, I don't know if this is a joke or not, is it a piss take or a heart felt dystopian sci-fi?

Harfyyn Teuport

It's heartfelt,and from what I've heard the imagery of Sean Hannity becomes more and more fetishised and macho as the books go on...

Jemble Fred

Judging by Batman's recent turn, I'd say it's genuine. And of course everyone involved should be put down.

Blumf

The idea of Ollie North or Liddy being some kind of freedom fighting heroes boggles the mind. As does the US Right's paranoia over the UN. It'd be funny if these people weren't in power.

Quote from: "Jemble Fred"Judging by Batman's recent turn

What's that about?

Make me smile

Quote from: "Blumf"The idea of Ollie North or Liddy being some kind of freedom fighting heroes boggles the mind. As does the US Right's paranoia over the UN. It'd be funny if these people weren't in power.

Quote from: "Jemble Fred"Judging by Batman's recent turn

What's that about?

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=1616836&page=1

Mr. Analytical

Pffff... what a load of absolute shit.  Frank Miller really is turning into a world-class tool.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote"Imagine the powerful rage when someone crosses the passion between a man and a woman or a man and his city."

What?

...What?

AAaaaaggh!!!

humanleech

The US has every reason to be scared - they're about to lose their empire.

mayer

Quote from: "Mr. Analytical"Pffff... what a load of absolute shit.  Frank Miller really is turning into a world-class tool.

Hands up who reckons he came up with the title first and worked around it....?

DuncanC

"If you're looking for me, you better check under the oppression of ultra-liberal extremists, 'cos that is where you'll fi-ind me..."

Pinball

Yep, those liberals are dangerous. We need us some Republicans.

Suttonpubcrawl

I find the idea of oppression by ultra-liberal extremists rather hilarious. Those liberals, giving us rights and freedoms! It's appallingly oppressive!

Pinball



Drumlake Old Boys Club

Does "liberal" now mean "traitor" in American? What's going on? How could anyone see liberty as a bad thing? Even conservatives usually like liberty: it means free trade and free markets, i.e. more money.

mayer

Liberalism in the States usually refers to what is known as "Modern Liberalism" over here, as opposed to "Classical Liberalism" which is yer freedom malarky.

hulahoops

Yes.  Liberal is the dirtiest of dirty words now.   One of the major campaign strategies against John Kerry in the last presidential election was to emphasise that he was "The Most Liberal Member of Congress,"  as if that just said it all and clearly no one in their right (hah) mind would vote for someone that liberal.

Edit: The "we like liberty" section of conservatives are Libertarians, which is very different from liberal over here.

Still Not George

It's really extraordinary, isn't it? They've managed to turn "doesn't believe in shitting in other people's faces" into "wants to kill everyone they can, and sell the rest of them into slavery" somehow.

The US Left occasionally makes quiet noises about reclaiming the word "liberal", but there's no real chance of managing that while Fox News still exists.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

I wouldn't be surprised if any genuinely insane 'liberals' are just plants put there by the neocons to discredit the left.

Pinball


Sovereign

Quote from: "hulahoops"Yes.  Liberal is the dirtiest of dirty words now.   One of the major campaign strategies against John Kerry in the last presidential election was to emphasise that he was "The Most Liberal Member of Congress,"  as if that just said it all and clearly no one in their right (hah) mind would vote for someone that liberal.

Edit: The "we like liberty" section of conservatives are Libertarians, which is very different from liberal over here.

They did the same thing with "Anarchism" and "Socialism". The word "Anarchism" was aggressively attacked and used as a by-word for outright chaos when infact the political ideology of Anarchism is one of order and control, just an order coming from the bottom up rather than the top down. Today if you ask anyone what they think of when they think of Anarchism they conjour up images of a left-wing bomb-thrower (to borrow from Bill O'Reilly's description of Ted Kennedy.) The same goes for Socialism, the actual word has been hi-jacked by those on the right and been associated with totalitarianism and other nasty things. What makes it worse is how the Socialists and Anarchists in the US have accepted it. You can hardly find an activist in the US who would dream of using the word Socialist, instead relying on pathetic euthamisms like "progressive" and "leftist" and so on. The word liberal is going through the same process that these other words went through.

There is no mainstream Socialist (and I use the term in its widest possible sense) movement in the US, but that wasn't always the case. In the late 1800's there were very big unions, popular political parties and working-class movements in the United States. In a lot of cases, especially in the textile areas of the north like Massachusetts, there were advanced unions and political parties that were stronger than the European equivalents. Its just at around the turn of the century the US embarked on a massive campaign of repression. So in the 1880's the Populist Party has a presidential candidate that got 23% of the popular vote standing on a very left-wing socialist platform. I think, I don't know all the details coz I'm doing this from memory. But the next few years their meetings were broken up, members were arrested and sometimes shot, and the party was gone by the first world war.

Or how about Eugene Debs, a man who ran for president in 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, and who said in the 1912 presidential election "As long as there is a criminal class, I will be a criminal". This man was arrested in 1918 for sedition, despite being a presidential candidate and sentenced to 10 years in jail. He was stripped of his citizenship. Somehow (and I'm not sure of the constituional reasons how he could do it whilst being in jail and disenfranchised) he was nominated for president in the 1920 electin and won over a two million votes, one of the best results for a third party candidate in the 20th Century. Puts Bobby Sands to shame,

This process didn't start with Joseph McCarthy, and it didn't stop with him either. Its going on today, and the witch-hunt conitunes, but the word in the firing-line is the very word that more than all encompassess what the US when it was founded; Liberal.

Thomas Jefferson is turning in his grave.

Some Herbert

Thanks Sovereign, that's interesting stuff about US presidential candidates. I didn't know about Eugene Debs. There's something quite noble about being charged with sedition, although Debs probably didn't feel very noble sitting in his prison cell.

You're quite right about the way in which leftwingers in the US are terrified of being labelled socialists. It's also become a dirty word in Britain. A while back I was perusing the web site of the Communist Party USA, and thought that many Americans would probably agree with much of what they say. It seems slightly surreal that America even has an official Communist Party - their members must be almost as lonely as the only Jew in Kabul.