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Big Brother 7

Started by Artemis, March 23, 2006, 12:20:57 AM

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Go With The Flow

or, 'gas' them, then turn the whole house upside down.

Mr. Analytical

I think that would be a great idea.

I can just imagine them sticking their nose out of the front door and going "he...hello? is there anyone there?" only to be met with the howl of the wind and the squawk of a distance cormorrant.

Artemis

Just a heads up, for those who enjoy watching shows traditionally limited to residents of other countries, the Australian Big Brother is starting this Sunday night, and will probably be available at standard torrent places. In my experience, this has generally been better and more imaginative then the UK's version and may well be worth checking out...

Little Hoover

I guess I'll be in for the long haul of watching this, unless there's something else on every weekday at 9pm. But I don't see much chance of that.

lazyhour

It's an obvious comment, but you could switch the TV off if you don't really want to watch Big Brother and there's nothing else on that interests you.  Otherwise, the terrorists win.

Little Hoover

Well yeah I know. But the thing is I watch it anyway so the
"youhavetoadmititmakesgreattelly" brigade annoy me because I don't watch it for those bits.
They could still make an addictive entertaining show without having it being really unpleasent and trying to make so much shock value.
There's plenty to enjoy in the show that isn't depraved and that's the stuff I enjoy. In fact I often change the channel during the crap as some vauge hope that the producers would notice the figures went down an iota during that moment.

Borboski

I wish they just put nice intelligent middle class people in, then edited it down to them actually having conversations rather than sitting by the pool moaning about each other.

"ees mad in'ee"
"oh yeah, million percent, end of"

Artemis

But that would appeal to a small minority of people who watch the show and it's shelf life would be limited. Middle class opinionated people would irritate me far more then the Jade Goodies of the world, with their superior sounding, self indulgent posturing etc. - give me the people who are stupid but truer to themselves any day of the week.

lazyhour

So middle-class people are superior-sounding and self-indulgent, whereas poor people are stupid but true to themselves?

Give me someone who can actually have a conversation over someone who can't any day of the week.

monkhouse terror

Quote from: "Artemis"Middle class opinionated people
Quote from: "Artemis"superior sounding, self indulgent posturing
Right back at you, meatface

chav

"True to themselves"... this place is turning into Digital Spy!

Spoonsy

I went to the auditions and got through two rounds with one call-back. At each stage my fellow auditionees got progressively more unbearable. I was eventually sent home and only one member of my group got through. He was the only one who was 'lively enough' according to the judge. He resembled a mahogany desk, such was the extent of his self-tanning habit and was possibly the most infuriating dickhead i've ever met. I was only there to write a feature for my uni paper and I was deliberately being a loudmouthed, squawking, egotistical prick to further my cause, yet I still wasn't deemed lively enough. I fear for the show, especially if that guy made it all the way.

Artemis

Quote from: "lazyhour"So middle-class people are superior-sounding and self-indulgent, whereas poor people are stupid but true to themselves?
You said that, not me.
QuoteGive me someone who can actually have a conversation over someone who can't any day of the week.
You mean, give you someone who can hold a conversation about things you're interested in. How selfish.
Quote from: "monkhouse terror"Right back at you, meatface
So you can't say someone's judgemental because that makes you the same, right? Poor stuff, dude. Poor stuff.
Quote from: "chav"True to themselves"... this place is turning into Digital Spy!
Huh? Generally speaking, middle class people try to hard - something that's born out of insecurities that manifest themselves in a disproportionate concern with their status in society. Go and read Alain De Botton, he'll sort you out. Working class people are, yes, truer to themselves - what's your problem?

Come at me, fellas, come at me. I'll take you all on!! Yeeaaahhhhhh.

lazyhour

Quote from: "Artemis"
Quote from: "lazyhour"So middle-class people are superior-sounding and self-indulgent, whereas poor people are stupid but true to themselves?
You said that, not me.

What did you say, then?  Looked to me like you made some wack assumption that the average middle-class person is superior-sounding and self-indulgent, and the average working-class person is stupid but true to themselves.  In fact, if that wasn't what you meant, then your statement was completely pointless, and has as much relevance as "Give me a sexy Italian girl who likes the Silver Jews over an old Chinese man who sings loudly any day of the week."  If you're not making a deliberate generalisation with your statement, then it's just absurd.  Here's what you said again, for the hard of thinking:

Quote from: "Artemis"Middle class opinionated people would irritate me far more then the Jade Goodies of the world, with their superior sounding, self indulgent posturing etc. - give me the people who are stupid but truer to themselves any day of the week.

Note that you and you alone brought 'opinionated' into the mix.  Explain yourself, you brute!

Edit: Can I just say that the idea that middle class people are any more opinionated than working class people is quite the most ludicrous thing I've heard for ages.  You never see opinionated working class people, do you?  Heavens, no!  They're all open-minded, thoughtful, empathetic people, constantly open to new experiences and having their views challenged, aren't they?  Unlike those EVIL DEVIL middle-classers.

Does being true to yourself mean never trying to better yourself or your situation?

Artemis

My point wasn't as crude as your paraphrasing of it, that's all.

Yes, if you're going to push me, I'd align myself with your version of what I said, based on my own experiences with both groups of people.

lazyhour

I added some more guff to my post.  You must read it or I'll cry.

Artemis

I read it. You're missing my point. It wasn't that one group have more opinions then the other, it was that although working class people tend to have many opinions, many of which can be crass and lacking in consideration of the facts (the same as middle class folk), they are far less likely to try and impress with how much they know in the way that middle class people do.

Take Dean from BB2 (the brummy one) who loved to distance himself from knowledge of pop music and 'common' stuff. He was possibly the most boring contestant BB has ever had, seconded only by Elizabeth who also liked to act in a way that detached herself from people without her 'social status'. Dull, dull, dull. (I should add, I didn't watch BB4).

Yes, you cringed watching Kinga sticking a wine bottle up herself, but Kinga was being Kinga. Elizabeth was being who Elizabeth thought she ought to be. Take the demise of Nasty Nick, the greatest BB moment ever, and try telling me that wasn't a class issue - Craig the bricklaying scouse brought down a snob. Thats why it worked, plain and simple.

lazyhour

I'm middle-class.  When I say that I don't enjoy watching television, am I not being me?  Am I being a snob?  Opinionated?  Am I being true to myself.  When I enjoy a glass of Coke, am I being me?  When I read Alain De Botton, am I being me?

Your view is very confusing, in all seriousness.

Edit: Now I get it!  Middle class people try to impress by demonstrating what they know, whereas working class people try to impress by demonstrating what they don't know!  Yeah, one of those is definitely much better than the other.  Thank goodness for the class system, so it's easy for you to immediately know which humans to like more.

chav

You've not read Dean's book then? Nowhere in the classic author stakes, but a very interesting read nonetheless. It might go some distance towards explaining why you perceived him as "dull". Because I don't think he was.

And Craig the working-class bricklayer was still a world away from the chumps you get these days.

So do you think that the middle-class people are lying? As in not being "true to themselves"?

I detect a bad mood in your head, even over the Internet.

Ambient Sheep

Oh for Christ's sake, are we going to have to start the BB7 meta-thread ALREADY?  We usually have to have one, most years.

Borboski

Hahahhah!

Well really, I'm with Lazy and MT T on this one, I think you've (Artemis) read too much into the comments others made, and then have started banging on about some kind of idealised swarthy working classes, bless 'em, they may stick bottles up their fannies, BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE REAL!  

Cuh, not like these "fake" middle class people, with their "wine" and their "books" - well, i genuinely like wine and books - ahhhh but do I, ahh but yes, but no!

Hmm, it was probably a bit lazy using middle class, I basically meant eduacated peopl, or maybe not even that, maybe just people with a bit more life experience than your average 19-20 year old.

I didn't find Dean boring, one of the bits I remember from the series was him talking to Brian Dowling (? - the wet kids TV presenter) about politics and trying to explain what a totalitarian state was.

I'm sure I'll watch it a bit when it comes on, but I don't find it engaging because unlike Bonnie and Germaine Greer, Eko Eshun etc, I've heard all the stories of working class strumpets over and over again.   It sounds like the recruitment process encourages wacky and abrasive people, especially the younger people.  I'd rather watch the lives of people who had some knowledge, experiences etc to share.  

When I'm on the bus and I hear someone shouting into their mobile phone about some courtcase or relationship problem (yur fucking slaaaag), i turn my mp3 player up because it feels boring and pornographic after an initial minutes' listen.  But when I'm on the train and I see someone working on a report I'll have a right good shufty about what they're working on.


End of.  One million per cent.

gazzyk1ns

Quote from: "Spoonsy"I went to the auditions and got through two rounds with one call-back.

Whoa, what was it like? I imagine getting a callback means you got quite far? I heard that Endemol were holding the latter "auditions" in Coventry, did you have to travel there? Heh, I've wondered in the past what the "Sorry, your BB hopes are dashed, try again next year." phonecall would actually be like, did they take their time or just say "Sorry... but bye, we've got 500 others to call."?

Shoulders?-Stomach!

QuoteElizabeth who also liked to act in a way that detached herself from people without her 'social status'.

Presumably you didn't watch the bit everyone remembers her (and probably that series) for then.

Oscar

Which is? (I didn't see it)

Purple Tentacle

I remember that she had a really really creepy boyfriend who was 30 years older than her.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: "gnatt"Which is? (I didn't see it)

Jacuzzi, all female housemates naked- all writhy and foamstruck.... I would 'imagine' Robbs celebs could help you out.

TotalNightmare

Big Brother House
Its a quiz
its a race
a real wacky place
use your body and your brain
if you want to win the game...

or stick a wine bottle up your cunt!

With Pat Sharp

Little Hoover

If I recall didn't her boyfreind release naked pictures of her to the press and not see anything wrong with doing so.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

She's comfortable being naked in public, so that's alright then.

Little Hoover

Yeah but I remember her being shocked when she found out, I wasn't quite sure if she found it funny or was just hiding how she felt because it wasn't really the time and place for an argument.