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Celebrity Big Brother 2007.

Started by TraceyQ, January 01, 2007, 05:10:39 PM

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Blumf

The Betfair markets called it correctly, I doubt it's a fiddle.

Smackhead Kangaroo

What are the boos about?


Ugh here we go we'll Davina recycling her, "and now here's the racism" segment

Fielding

Why can't I be the guy attaching that microphone.

Smackhead Kangaroo

Are they trying to set up Danielle as Jade mark 2 ?

Lady Beaner

Well... I was surprised by that result. I do think there is a little truth in the 'brown pound' argument. I was in a clothing store yesterday and one Asian shop assistant accosted me at the till saying that I MUST vote for Shilpa, as if it was my moral duty.

AlexS

63% in a seven way vote is good going. Nice gal too, deserving winner.

EDIT

I've just realised it was 63% of the final vote i.e. Her vs Jermaine, which aint so good.

mothman

The worst that can be said about Ian is that he tried too hard, and kept his head down when he should have weighed in. The wqorst that can be said about Shilpa is she was maybe a bit stuck up, and occasionally over-teary. The worst that can be said about Jade. . . er, on second thoughts, we don't have all night. . . the best that can be said about Jade. . . um. . . I got nothing.

Smackhead Kangaroo

The best thing that can be said about Jade is that she ain't no racialist.

Or perhaps that she's done well for herself in spite of being talentless, selfish, stupid, charmless and mannerless.

Neil

What sort of a cunt actually finds Russell Brand amusing?  God.  I can see how he's vaguely alright in that Play UK things, but on Big Brother's Big Mouth he's just utterly dreadful.  Does anyone actually find all that wanking/dinkles/ballbags/dicksacks bullshit funny?  I wish he'd just fuck off.

Slaaaaabs

Those bits are atrocious, he works well with the audience/guests though.

Ja'moke

Quote from: "Neil"What sort of a cunt actually finds Russell Brand amusing?  God.  I can see how he's vaguely alright in that Play UK things, but on Big Brother's Big Mouth he's just utterly dreadful.  Does anyone actually find all that wanking/dinkles/ballbags/dicksacks bullshit funny?  I wish he'd just fuck off.

I think Russell knows though that the audience he attracts on Big Mouth are most likely not expecting anything more than jokes about 'dick sacks' etc. He does come out with the good line on it now and again like for example tonight when Dirk threw that glass and it landed in the dustbin and Russell said "Great accuracy, a typical American...although your bombings aren't quite as accurate"...off the cuff that was quite good.

But yeah the Russell on Big Mouth is pretty vulgar, the Radio 2 Russell is far better.

Huzzie

Eh?

It's over? That's a bit out of the blue, innit? Was it always set to finish tonight?


Were Danielle and Jack "interrogated" by Demeanor?



Ha.... Demeanor!

Smackhead Kangaroo

Jack here is your story....



{crickets chirping}

Huzzie

Quote from: "Lady Beaner"Well... I was surprised by that result. I do think there is a little truth in the 'brown pound' argument. I was in a clothing store yesterday and one Asian shop assistant accosted me at the till saying that I MUST vote for Shilpa, as if it was my moral duty.

Really? I presume he/she was Indian though and not Bangladeshi, Pakistani or Kashmiri?

Huzzie

Did Shilpa really get a lot of booing?

I really don't know why.

weirdbeard

Good fucking riddance Celebrity Big Brother 2007.  God I hope they make some big changes for Big Brother 8.  The whole series has been dull, even the CEO of Channel 4 admitted this last week.  They've got to get out of this "confrontation and arguments are entertaining" mode they've been in ever since Big Brother 5.  How hard can it be to create an entertaining show without persistent and deliberate shitstirring?

Personally I'd like the series to take a break for a year, just to give people a rest from it, get themselves into a new location (the lease for Elstree runs out after this summer doesn't it?) where they can totally start over and plan out a really entertaining series.  Unfortunately, it'll probably be the same old "When Opposites Collide" old tosh this summer as usual though.

Artemis

I totally agree. It just feels like they're having BB for the sake of it, not because it's any good.

Let's have a good group of reasonably down to earth people, in a nice house that's pleasant to live in and look at, and set some genuinely interesting tasks that allow us to find out the true character of a person, not just what they're like when they're drunk, or playing some cheap party game.

Sadly, I can't really see the format changing, given that controversy equals viewers, and hatred equals phone calls, which equals money.

hansen mork

When Davina was asking the non bullying housemates why they didn't intervene when things were kicking off i would have loved it if one of them would have replied "i thought Big Brother would have stepped in as they can see everything and i believe bullying and racism is against the rules of the game."

Beagle 2

Boo for Dirk not sneaking it. Why were the three witches not on BBBM then, personal choice/advise or gagged by channel four? Jack looked absolutely bewildered by it all. I thought Leo wanted to get the fuck out of this stupid fucking country as well, have a change of heart about the fee did we?

Ah, life seemed so much simpler back on page one, a world where Tracey Q was starting threads, there was still a chance BB might stay Goody-free and not shit, and the world was as one, united in beautiful racial harmony.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: "Huzzie"Did Shilpa really get a lot of booing?

I really don't know why.

Fuckin' uppity wog.

variant

Why was Cleo being so bitchy about Dirk on BBBM? I thought they decided that they didn't hate each other after all. It seems like once she has a few drinks inside her she becomes the nasty, desperate, insecure bitch that hidden beneath all those zany characters*.









*Sketch show? No chance. Appearing as Tiara on Saturday morning with Sam and Mark? Possibly.

zozman

I noticed Brand dropped a Smiths lyric in last night, but I'll be buggered if I can remember what it was.  Anyone?

opyty

Quote from: "Russell Brand said what Morrissey"It takes guts to be gentle and kind
I did feel for poor Jack on BBBM, not having the wit or gumption to stand up for the Goody Klan or walk off the show. You can be sure he didn't get any last night after that, not even a quick one over her thigh. I also had the feeling that Cleo was only being so particularly nasty to Dirk after having been egged on by Carole for the last day or two. Of course the fact that Dirk had suggested Carole was a typical desperate woman of a certain age has nothing to do with her opinion, oh no.

zozman

Quote from: "opyty"
Quote from: "Russell Brand said what Morrissey"It takes guts to be gentle and kind

That's the bugger - thanks for that.  I was only half watching, and I was on my third glass of crap wine.

Mr Wrong

I fancied phonin up in the last week to ask for more racalism to liven things up a bit. But I'll tell you for what -when I put a wad on Jermaine to win it was at 10-1,and this was before the clan pushed Shilpa into centre stage.  I lost a tenner last night and can't help feelin somehow that I too have been the victim of racialisation.

Why doesn't these people get it -in the big brother house you can't win-out over your rivals by bullying them? It's like cleaning your bath out with shit -It's not going to work, and where did you get that shit from anyway you filthy cunt?

phantom_power

did they ever use that slot to post viewer suggestions to the housemates?

Neil

http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,,2000460,00.html

QuoteWho's pulling their strings?


When housemate Jade Goody told Jo O'Meara that she would 'have a word with John' she was hinting at the real power behind the scenes at Celebrity Big Brother. Tara Conlan talks to the big daddy of reality television

Monday January 29, 2007
The Guardian

As the storm raged over allegations of racism on Celebrity Big Brother, Jade Goody was quizzed by panicked housemate Jo O'Meara about how press coverage of their comments might affect their careers."It doesn't matter, in all fairness," replied Goody. "There is always a way that you can justify it. I'll have a word with John." The remark would have passed most viewers by, but close media watchers realised she was talking about John Noel, the über-agent who fashioned a professional B-lister out of a Big Brother reject, making her a millionaire in the process.

Goody is not Noel's only Big Brother client; he has a knack of spotting which contestants have the potential to make a career beyond the standard reality show shelf-life: he signed up the winner of the last series, Pete Bennett, and the non-celebrity winner of last year's Celebrity Big Brother, Chantelle Houghton. He also manages the Big Brother presenters Davina McCall, Dermot O'Leary and Russell Brand. So, although he is not a programme-maker, Noel is a central cog in the Big Brother machine.

This extensive influence has caused fans and critics alike to cry foul. They wonder if McCall is tempted to give participants such as Goody a soft ride in her interviews so as not to damage Noel's goods. They speculate that Cleo Rocos, another Noel client, who was evicted on Friday, did not step in to temper Goody's out-of-control rants because of the behind-the-scenes connection. And they say the reason Noel is so keen to save Goody's skin is because she is such an important client.

It is certainly true that Noel was intimately involved in the attempts to rescue Goody from the firestorm that engulfed the programme. It was he who secured that tearful interview with the News of the World - videoed, so the powerful images could be replayed on television news bulletins throughout the weekend. And it was he who led her on a tour of the TV studios last week - including the Channel Five chatshow presented by another of his clients, Matthew Wright, and Indian broadcasters.

So who is this reality show Svengali whose strategy has possibly saved Goody's career, making her appear the victim of a media feeding frenzy, rather than responsible for it?

For an agent with such high-profile clients, surprisingly little is known about Noel, which has only added to his mystique. That suits him fine. "My reputation in the business is I'm gruff, which I always thought was quite funny. I can be bad-tempered and let off steam and if something is written that's not true I say so, and some people don't like that," he says.

Once he has agreed to speak, Noel is refreshingly open. He admits the past few weeks have been extraordinary, particularly finding himself caught up in the Goody story. As a result of the coverage he is "not a great fan of some tabloid newspapers". Noel was already representing McCall when Big Brother burst on to British screens in 2000. The show did well and Endemol appointed a management company to handle housemates when they came out. But media interest in "nasty Nick" exploded and Noel was called in to represent him.

He was quick to realise how Big Brother could give non-celebrities a leg up the fame ladder. "What became apparent to me was the housemates had a battery life. When they come out of the house, that begins to run out. If you can find a way of recharging it, that's the key." Now his fellow agents can only stand back and applaud his success. Alex Armitage, whose clients include Jeremy Vine and Sir David Frost, says: "He is like the medieval science of alchemy in that he is good at turning shit into gold. He's absolutely brilliant, given the clients he has, like Jade."

A colleague adds: "When the contestants leave Big Brother they get taken away to a place in the country and John shows them all the covers of Heat he's got them. He can prove what he can do for them."

Noel dismisses criticism that he has too much power over the series, saying he was simply doing his job - making the most of opportunities for his clients. "I was looking at how we could cross-promote from Big Brother, and made the whole thing work for everybody," says Noel. "Now I'm being criticised for representing more than one client involved in Big Brother."

Noel, 55, began his working life in the clothing business, having left school at 15. "That world was close to fashion, television and celebrity. Over time I was naturally drawn to TV and radio. I used to make promotional clothing for Radio 1."

His move into management came by accident. "A DJ in Manchester approached me. He wanted to get a tape to Radio 1. I got it to the relevant person and they offered him a three-month gig. The producer asked me if he had an agent. When I said he didn't, he suggested I did it. I said, 'I don't know anything about being an agent'. He said, 'Neither do the rest of them'."

In the early days of his career, he worked primarily in radio and music. His second divorce proved a turning point. "That was costly. So I came to London, thinking, 'I've got three young children to support, I have to earn some money'." He realised that the growth in TV channels in the early 1990s meant more opportunities for talent. He rented a room in a studio in Primrose Hill, and set to work. "I worked in that room for a year. I went around looking for talent, watching the new TV channels. During that period I was lucky enough to sign Davina, Lisa I'Anson and Denise Van Outen."

Noel (his middle name - his real surname is Linnen) is close to his clients. Garden designer Diarmuid Gavin named him as the "living person" he most admired. He holidays with Matthew Wright. Both are motorbike enthusiasts; Noel owns four, including a 1932 Indian model once owned by Steve McQueen. The pair went fishing in India together, though Noel says he prefers bikes and skiing, which he enjoys near his house in the Alps. Brand credits him with saving his life, after Noel forced the comedian to go into rehab.

Goody is one of Noel's biggest successes. "When she came out of the house, I thought there was something about this young woman." Noel sent her to coaches and told her to sort her hair out. "She learnt quickly. We got her into a gym. She spent four years working bloody hard, and there was a lot of jealousy. She's pretty, she's got great skin and a good sense of style."

So can he save Goody's reputation? "The worst thing Jade is guilty of is that she lost her rag. When something like this happens it gets completely out of hand. It has been driven by the press and the media; it sells lots of papers."

Noel is not infallible - in 2004 he famously told the TV critic Victor Lewis-Smith that Ali G would not make it in the United States - but as publicity guru and friend James Herring puts it: "He's absolutely straight, with zero bullshit. He's tough-talking but trustworthy, and protects his clients and looks after them."

Noel's big names

Davina McCall has presented Big Brother since 2000 and last year had a short-lived BBC1 chatshow

Tess Daly co-hosted three series of Strictly Come Dancing. Married to Radio 1 DJ Vernon Kay - they recently presented talent show Just The Two Of Us

Diarmuid Gavin has several TV programmes to his credit including Home Front in the Garden and the Chelsea Flower Show

Russell Brand presents Big Brother's Big Mouth and a show on Radio 2

mothman

Channel 4's line now seems to be that since they didn't mean to say those things, they just slipped out in the heat of the moment, and so they're not really racist. In other words, there can be no racism without intent to be racist. Which is bollocks.

Artemis

Why are C4 so afraid of showing racism on television? It's still a part of our society, so let's get it out in the open and try and deal with it. Censoring it from television is the adult equivalent of putting our hands over our ears and going lalalalalalalalala

Identity Crisis Ahoy!

So. Um... how do The Sun justify this headline?