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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2007, 01:26:06 PM »
The first Waits album I got into was Bone Machine. I don't know how it's ranked in the pecking order by people who are into Tom Waits a bit more than me, but I think it's pretty good.

I live in a house with almost two complete sets of Tom Waits albums.  Neither Ms Trotsky or I rate 'Bone Machine' that highly.  For people looking for Waits, we often point them at 'Mule Variations' first as it seems to be one of the only albums which covers a broad spectrum of Tom's styles.

Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2007, 01:27:46 PM »
...and yes, we'd both concur that you ought to pick up 'Rain Dogs' really quickly too.

Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2007, 03:08:53 PM »
I got into Tom Waits recently through Rain Dogs and now I'm just gutted I didn't listen to him sooner.

Could someone recommend me some 'classical' musicians/pieces to listen to?  I've always been interested but never had someone there to hold my hand and walk me through it.  I'm an utter philistine in terms of music predating 1950.

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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2007, 07:44:29 PM »
Trostsky: How can you not love Bone Machine??? In my opinion it has 3 of his finest ballads (Who Are You, A Little Rain and Whistle Down the Wind). And then you have the wonderfully bleak "Dirt in the Ground", the boozey duet with Keith Richards and the briilliant bluesey singing of "Jesus Gonna Be Here". Each track mentioned would be worth the price of the CD on their own, but when you have all those on one CD it adds up to surely one of his best CDs!

I agree Mule Variations is a fantastic album too, though.

Argus: You may have to narrow your request down a bit because, as I'm sure you know, classical music is a huge genre with lots of incredibily different music within it. Perhaps if you could name a particular composer or time period or style or genre (piano, orchestral, chamber etc) I could help you out a bit more. I worked in a classical music specialist CD shop for 3 years so I like to think I know my stuff in that area.

But you can't really go wrong with a bit of Bach (the greatest western composer ever, and you can marry my sister if itsn't so). Glenn Gould's recordings of the Goldberg Variations are sublime (both versions, 1955 and 1981, although the 1955 is ever so slightly better IMO) and they're very cheap too (Sony have issued them at budget price). Amazon are only charging £3.97. That's a ridiculous bargain for some of the best musicianship ever recorded.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-Goldberg-Variations-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B0002ISFRK/ref=sr_1_3/202-7221993-3175851?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1182883405&sr=8-3


Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2007, 08:39:46 PM »
I like me a bit of Gershwin. If you like your classical jazzy, sophisticated and New Yoyuky, he's your man.

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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2007, 08:40:55 PM »
Where to start with Krautrock?

I have before me a list of of the 50 Greatest Krautrock Albums of All Time, as chosen by Julian Cope in the appendix of Krautrocksampler.  Not entirely coincidentally, I also have before me download links to all 50.

Amon Duul, Can, Popol Vuh, Neu, Faust, Witthuser & Westrupp (?), they're all there.

But which is best?  Which album and by whom should I sample first?

Though don't say Tago Mago, as I already have that.. ta

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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2007, 08:45:16 PM »
Well, Tago Mago is the best, so you've made a good start by getting that. If we're talking about bands other than Can, Neu! were very good, especially on Neu! 1, so I'd recommend that one. The opening track 'Hallogallo' is wonderful. It's got a classic motorik beat, it evolves and develops throughout and it' an abslute tour de force of a song. I'd say that aside from Halleluhwah, it's my favourite Krautrock song.

I think there was some mention of Krautrock on the first page of this thread if I remember rightly, too.

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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2007, 09:19:09 PM »
Well, Tago Mago is the best, so you've made a good start by getting that. If we're talking about bands other than Can, Neu! were very good, especially on Neu! 1, so I'd recommend that one. The opening track 'Hallogallo' is wonderful. It's got a classic motorik beat, it evolves and develops throughout and it' an abslute tour de force of a song. I'd say that aside from Halleluhwah, it's my favourite Krautrock song.

I think there was some mention of Krautrock on the first page of this thread if I remember rightly, too.

D'oh!  Missed the first page, but have plumped for Neu! anyway, on your recommendation.  And you're right - Hallogallo is wonderful.  Second track Sonderangebot seems to be a non-starter, though.

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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2007, 09:55:24 AM »
Half man half biscuit.....I heard a track called Paintball's Coming Home somewhere recently which I liked but I have no idea what to get for a first purchase.

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Re: I want to get into .... But I don't know where to start
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2007, 10:24:05 AM »
Half man half biscuit.....I heard a track called Paintball's Coming Home somewhere recently which I liked but I have no idea what to get for a first purchase.

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1997's Voyage to the Bottom of the Road (which contains Paintball - the sleeve alone will make you cry with laughter), Four Lads Who Shook the Wirral and Cammell Laird Social Club are neck-and-neck. I'd buy them in that order, then go for This Leaden Pall, Trouble Over Bridgwater and the most recent Achtung Bono. Voyage is the very best, though. When you hear these, you wonder why Back in the DHSS is as celebrated as it is - listened to now, it's just tirades at minor TV celebrities. Funny in 1986 but they got much, much better than that.