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Started by @ssmaster, April 04, 2004, 10:00:20 PM

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@ssmaster

This is going to knock the tits off Hotmail. Google are going to launch a web mail service and give you 1000mb email space all for free, so you should never have to delete a mail again.

https://gmail.google.com/

More here http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html

Pinball

Yeah I read about that & registered my interest, but what's the point in publicising a system that doesn't exist yet? It may never exist, though let's hope it does ;-)

Ambient Sheep

Yes, as long as you bear in mind that Google employs security-cleared engineers who used to work at the National Security Agency, and they'd like to recruit more.  They already keep a record of all the search terms you've ever entered.

See here, here and here, for example.

Of course, if this helps them stop arsehole terrorists blowing radioactive debris all over Oxford Street I'm all for it, but you might want to bear it in mind before you trust them with your E-Mail (which they already admit that they will be reading in order to target you with appropriate adverts).

Still, who do you trust more?  Google or Microsoft?

gazzyk1ns

Google love publicity like that because it diverts you from the reality, Sheep... Yahoo Groups and MSN Communities are virtually funded by people subscribing to (unlisted) animalsex and child porn groups/communities. The rest is funded by 40 year-old men looking for the profiles of 11-19 year old girls in their area who might be a bit loose and show some chest-fat on their profile photo. Anything else you get to hear about is irrelevant, save for complete airbrains who subscribe to childbuggeryandrapeanddeathandstuff.com with their credit card details.

Google have, as everyone here said recently, fucked it by deviating from their very clean, commercial-free interface, and someone should have words with the owners about that.

Alberon

I read in one of the sunday papers that Google will scan your email so that they can stick 'appropriate' ads at the side.

Pinball

Bloody corporations. Anything that can be done will be done. Who cares about privacy and liberty? They don't.

MojoJojo

Quote from: "Pinball"Bloody corporations. Anything that can be done will be done. Who cares about privacy and liberty? They don't.

Hmm, and you've already signed up for email Pinball. So now they've linked all your conspiracy searches to your email and probably you

Brigadier Pompous

Quote from: "Pinball"Bloody corporations. Anything that can be done will be done. Who cares about privacy and liberty? They don't.

It's not like they have tried to hide this.

They are trying to make some money providing free email.  If you don't like it, don't use it.

Some people want the moon on a stick.

Pinball

Quote from: "MojoJojo"
Quote from: "Pinball"Bloody corporations. Anything that can be done will be done. Who cares about privacy and liberty? They don't.

Hmm, and you've already signed up for email Pinball. So now they've linked all your conspiracy searches to your email and probably you
A. I've signed up along with 30 million others
B. All my emails are already logged by Echelon so what difference does it make?
C. How can they link Google searches with me? They would have to have access to UK ISP log files. That will happen, of course, but I doubt it has yet. I don't believe the UK government is that competent, thank Blunkett.

Ambient Sheep

Quote from: "Pinball"C. How can they link Google searches with me? They would have to have access to UK ISP log files. That will happen, of course, but I doubt it has yet. I don't believe the UK government is that competent, thank Blunkett.
I suggest you go read the links I supplied above which explains how Google's cookie usage allows them to do this.

Of course, if you have cookies blocked in your browser, you should be OK.  Do  you?

Pinball

I've got cookies enabled, though regularly purge my system including cookies. Judging by the prurient searches millions of people do (if the "top ten searches" is to be believed), I should appear relatively innocent by comparison ;-)

Will The Man raid my house if I search for bomb making books? We seem to have almost reached that stage. Do Google flag key words/phrases (as per Echelon) and then inform on users doing certain searches? I bet Google have got some huge databases. It's a pity the incompetent pricks couldn't prevent 911, innit?

weather
september 11
new york world trade center map
death to america
al qaeda pension scheme
plastic utensil mart
microsoft flight simulator low altitude
wall street journal
buying futures
military stocks
bye bye world
you'd better data process fast, google

untitled_london

Quoteyou'd better data process fast, google

with tools like this they will soon be able to

:p

Pinball

Quote from: "untitled_london"
Quoteyou'd better data process fast, google

with tools like this they will soon be able to

:p
Will they combine the RAM with a dildo? Then they can fuck us really hard. Bastards.


Pinball

Quote from: "peet"ooer
How quaintly naive. Have these privacy campaigners not heard of Echelon?

Jet Set Willy

Got my account!

Hooray, with my proper name and everything!

Now I just need to think of something to do with it...

gazzyk1ns

Yeah a couple of mates with comp.sci. degrees who have had Gmail accounts for about two months now were boasting about being invited to volunteer for it by their ex-lecturers... I must admit to having been a bit jealous at first but Yahoo! have recently upgraded my storage/max  attachment filesize to something I'll never need to utilise and as I've been with them for 10 years this month, I'm really happy about that. Yahoo!, incidentally, upgraded your storage space as you needed it, despite advertising 3/5/6 (?) megs... you just had to frequently have an inbox which bordered on the limit which they currently "insisted" upon. Before they bucked their ideas up (presumably because of Gmail), I had a 20mb inbox.

Just to avoid confusion, for anyone who has read my comments in ISP-related threads and knows I'm with BT (now tied with Yahoo!), I am talking about Yahoo!'s web Email provision.

Rev

Bah, Yahoo never did that for my webmail account, and I was constantly approaching the border.  Still, it's now 100mb as standard, which came out of the blue, but the real bonus is the ability to send 10mb attachments.  My normal, actual, proper email spits out its dummy if I attempt such a thing.  Nice.

gazzyk1ns

Quote from: "Rev"Bah, Yahoo never did that for my webmail account, and I was constantly approaching the border.

Hehe you had to push it, they'd let you have up to 120% of your allocated space anyway. I found out by chance, by the way, I wans't being clever or anything.

untitled_london

i ahve 2 gmail account :blush:

i love it, i really do, it shits on hotmail, it shits on Y! (10MB max send - hahahah - pathetic)

an excelent GUI & searching & mail sorting is soooo much better.

i have promised a few invites out to my board, and to 2CPU, but when i get some more , i'll drop a couple in here.

i'm really hoping that google produce a decent multi IM client to rival GAIM etc.

gazzyk1ns

GAIM is good, isn't it? I use it on my Mandrake partition. Still, despite what I'd hoped, I really prefer plain old MSN... GAIM lets you see when people have closed your chat windows and with a couple of patches, lets you see if anyone has blocked you, but... very unusually, the "proper" one is best, in my opinion.

DuncanC

I look forward to GMail. Personally I think the whole thing about giving you personalised ads is overblown, what the technology is actually doing is just scanning for keywords, it's really no different to something like the spam-blocker in Hotmail.

untitled_london

heh - yeah, i like the old Y!M client too.. i was hopingthe new one would prove a good successor, but the beta was crashy, and a few of my mates had issues. i'm running a dualie box, that might be the cause of some of it, but if GAIM is hapy to just sit there and out perform the rest on the basics..then GAIM it is.

if i'm honest, i prefered trillian the plugs really m,ade it the best imo, i just wish that they would get a posxy GUI designer in to tidy the fucker up.

having little news flashes from /. etc pop up on my screen made me feel important... i liked that - i miss it - i'll probably go back to trilly in the coming days.

yeah MSN was good, but the emotes are sucky, and as per norm its a bit bloaty and ads never go down well with me...so Y!M gets best deafult client, GAIM gets best basic milti client & trilly gets best overall (if fiddly) client.

i really hope google ventures into this turf and lays down a one time killer blow.

the gmail seems to be doing this already - they might be the ones to really rival MS in some critical areas.

i've tried all googles stuff,and it has so far (cross fingers) never disappointed.

google deskbar was great (if un-necessary) their IE pop-up blocker has been copied into every other browser  and is default for million via moz etc

Google OS???? who knows

i hope they go that far - i really do

The Fanciful Norwegian

Quotegoogle deskbar was great (if un-necessary) their IE pop-up blocker has been copied into every other browser and is default for million via moz etc

Actually Mozilla (and some other browsers) had pop-up blocking ages before Google Toolbar; there were also numerous third-party applications that did the same thing. Frankly I've never seen the Toolbar as anything other than turd polish -- I don't want to sound elitist but I can't imagine how people can willingly use IE, with or without the pop-ups. Avant Browser is a bit nice though.

untitled_london

sorry i worded that poorly, i realise that the google pop-up thing was in moz way before it ever got to IE.

as fir third paty applications, some of them were so poor it was laughable - hence i admire googles efforts to hold-back untill they get it right.

as for turd polish, i have to disagree, the dictionary/ & thesaurus features i found to be particulalry handy, much faster than opening word or somesuch, and certainly faster than opeing a browser (yes i realise techincally it does open a browser, but, i'm sure you appreciate the point)

i stick with a browser for as long as i'm happy with it, i'm a firefox fanboy atm. having tried the early netscapes, gone to IE, had a pop @ opera, Mozilla, i'm sticking with firfox for now.

glitch

For all those using gmail (or thinking about it), I suggest checking out this site first. It gets a bit tinfoil-hat at times but the main points are valid.

Personally I use Terabolic Radium. If they're good enough for //disinfo.com then they're good enough for me.

Quote from: "Pinball"B. All my emails are already logged by Echelon so what difference does it make?
C. How can they link Google searches with me? They would have to have access to UK ISP log files. That will happen, of course, but I doubt it has yet. I don't believe the UK government is that competent, thank Blunkett.

B. Use PGP then, which I doubt is included with gmail. And with the inability to use dedicated e-mail software with gmail, this rules out any forms of encryption.

C. This is ridiculously easy, regardless of cookies. You understand that all HTTP requests to a server are logged not only by ISPs, but by that server 9as well as the servers you hop between)? A simple cross-comparison of IP addresses will flag up "suspect" searches with your e-mail account.

Quote from: "untitled_london"if i'm honest, i prefered trillian the plugs really m,ade it the best imo, i just wish that they would get a posxy GUI designer in to tidy the fucker up.

Have you tried any of the alternate skins? Some of them really improve the Trillian GUI.

And as for people extolling the virtues of the Googlebar - although I imagine it has been patched by now, there was a massive IE security hole caused by the Googlebar - serious enough for companies to refuse the installation on corporate machines.

Pinball

So what you're saying, xerode, is that I'm not paranoid enough? Holy crap! ;-)

glitch

Pinball - yeah, I was certainly surprised when I saw you posting that you'd joined!

After the Orkut fiasco, I'm very wary of Google now...

imitationleather

If anyone has a spare invite knocking about, could they possibly send it my way?

therfoundation@hotmail.com

Worst. Post. EVAAAAAH.

Pinball

Quote from: "xerode"Pinball - yeah, I was certainly surprised when I saw you posting that you'd joined!

After the Orkut fiasco, I'm very wary of Google now...
I haven't joined. I registered my interest but do not now intend to use this Echelon service.