Al Gore you turd

[Johnny Yesno]

It's not biggy JY, it's someone playing silly buggers.

Yeah, I finally got the point.

[Still Not George]

blah blah blah other blogshit that's as wafer-thin as biggy's but with longer words, YOU UTTER WANKERS.

I was so upset by this post that I went and got my 4chan tape measure just to reassure myself about the size of my e-peen.

The result was, of course, IT'S OVER 9000!

But then I checked and all the other entries are OVER 9000 too.

[Johnny Yesno]

Fuck off Pedro_Bore. You got what you wanted. You got to decide what's on the front page of GB. Now go and moderate the rest of the internet.

[Neil]

Fuck off Pedro_Bore. You got what you wanted. You got to decide what's on the front page of GB. Now go and moderate the rest of the internet.

He doesn't, Pedro may share similar objections, but I decide.  1000+ posts / going since 2007 - if anything, I'd usually just lock it, as I did with the Josie Long/Boosh etc threads. 

See also my attitude to massive, repetitive threads that suck up tons of traffic, and leave other areas flailing.

EDIT:  Perhaps it is just finally time to split GB, again. 

[Danger Man]

I've just noticed that the little globe under Johnny Yesno's name leads to an ambient-techno music site.

No music by Plaid?

You should be ashamed of yourself...

[Still Not George]

S'true that, Neil. It would probably be conducive to the tone if the thread was called something a bit more measured and relevant than "Al Gore you turd".

[Johnny Yesno]

He doesn't, Pedro may share similar objections, but I decide.  1000+ posts / going since 2007 - if anything, I'd usually just lock it, as I did with the Josie Long/Boosh etc threads.

Yeah, I just thought he'd leave it alone now it's in Picture Box.

[Danger Man]

S'true that, Neil. It would probably be conducive to the tone if the thread was called something a bit more measured and relevant than "Al Gore you turd".

Hmmmm......

'Digestive Biscuit' without the biscuit?
Thank God that cold winter's over?
Will the last person to leave the thread turn out the low-watt lights?
Say something about the political dogmas of the poster above you?

[Uncle TechTip]

You people and your "discussions", when will you ever learn?

[Lee Van Cleef]

Well the MP committee found no wrongdoing:

BBC News - Climate science must be more open, say MPs

Not that you'd know from watching Channel 4 news last night.  I mean, after spending days making hay out of the committee meetings why would they dedicate more than 1 minute on the actual findings?  Most of the time was spent emphasising the demands for transparency, and a few seconds tacked on the end mentioned that no wrongdoing was found.

[Still Not George]

Par for the course now. The UK media have staked their positions and the NARRATIVE MUST BE MAINTAINED!

[CaledonianGonzo]

Koch Industries' Extensive Funding of Climate Denial Industry Unmasked:

Billionaire oilman David Koch likes to joke that Koch Industries is "the biggest company you've never heard of." But the nearly $50 million that David Koch and his brother Charles have quietly funneled to climate-denial front groups that are working to delay policies and regulations aimed at stopping global warming is no joking matter.

Because it remains privately owned, Koch faces few of the disclosure requirements designed to increase transparency among publicly-traded companies.

That intentional secrecy allows Koch Industries, the second-largest privately-held company in the United States, to fly largely below the public's radar.  Few Americans have likely heard of Koch, even though it operates crude oil refineries and pipelines across North America and owns such well-known consumer brands as Dixie cups, Brawny and Quilted Northern paper products, Stainmaster carpet, CoolMax and Lycra.

The company's founder, Fred Koch, who once earned $5 million building oil refineries in the Soviet Union during Joseph Stalin's reign, was a co-founder of the libertarian John Birch Society.   Charles G. and David H. Koch, two of Fred's four sons, each now own 42% of the company's stock.  According to 2009 Forbes rankings, the Koch brothers are tied for the 19th richest person in the world, and for ninth richest American, each worth between $14 and $16 billion, more than George Soros or the founders of Google.

The Koch brothers use three foundations to spread Koch Industries' influence, including support for roughly 40 organizations that doubt or downplay climate change or otherwise oppose policy solutions to build a clean energy future.

http://www.desmogblog.com/koch-industries-extensive-funding-climate-denial-industry-unmasked

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/polluterwatch/koch-industries

Kock Industries, more like.

[Johnny Yesno]

Rajendra Pachauri sez:

To dismiss the implications of climate change based on an error about the rate at which Himalayan glaciers are melting is an act of astonishing intellectual legerdemain. Yet this is what some doubters of climate change are claiming. But the reality is that our understanding of climate change is based on a vast and remarkably sound body of science – and is something we distort and trivialise at our peril.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has published four comprehensive assessments of climate change and several important special reports since its founding in 1988. The last such document, the fourth assessment report (AR4) from 2007, mobilised 450 scientists from all over the world to write the report. An additional 800 contributing authors gave specialised inputs and about 2,500 expert reviewers provided 90,000 comments.

In this mammoth task, which yielded a finished product of nearly 3,000 pages, there was a regrettable error indicating the Himalayan glaciers were likely to melt by the year 2035. This mistake has been acknowledged by the IPCC. Learning from this error, the IPCC has requested, in tandem with the United Nations' secretary general, an independent review of its procedures and practices by the Inter-Academy Council (IAC). This review was requested in part so that the possibility of similar errors can be eliminated as much as is humanly possible.

It is important, however, to understand that irrespective of the error on Himalayan glaciers and a few other questions about some specific wording in AR4, the major thrust of the report's findings provides overwhelming evidence that warming of the climate system is unequivocal. To quote the report: "Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic GHG (greenhouse gas) concentrations."

As inhabitants of planet Earth, our lives depend on a stable climate, and it is our responsibility to ensure that future generations do not suffer the consequences of climate change. We cannot ignore the fact that the impacts of climate change, which are based on actual observations, are leading to "increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice and rising global sea levels", according to AR4.

An increasing number of researchers, and some official investigations by intelligence agencies, now point to the security implications of climate change. If we do not carry out adequate mitigation and adopt related sustainable development practices, global emissions of greenhouse gases will continue to increase, and their continuation at or above current rates will cause further warming and changes in the global climate system during the 21st century that will very likely be larger than those observed during the 20th century.

Altered frequencies and intensities of extreme weather, together with sea level rise, are expected to have mostly adverse effects on natural and human systems. Even more serious is the finding that human-induced warming could lead to some impacts that are abrupt or irreversible. For instance, partial loss of ice sheets on polar land could imply metres of sea level rise, major changes in coastlines and inundation of low-lying areas, with the greatest effects in river deltas and low-lying islands.

Human society has some critical choices. It is to be expected that some of these would pose challenges for some stakeholders and sectors of the economy. But to ignore the IPCC's scientific findings would lead to impacts that impose larger costs than those required today to stabilise the Earth's climate.

Thousands of scientists from across the world have worked diligently and in an objective and transparent manner to provide scientific evidence for action to meet the growing challenge of climate change. To obscure this reality through misplaced emphasis on an error in a nearly 3,000-page, rigorous document would be unfortunate.

Even more unfortunate is the effort of some in positions of power and responsibility to indict dedicated scientists as "climate criminals". I sincerely hope the world is not witnessing a new form of persecution of those who defy conventional ignorance and pay a terrible price for their scientifically valid beliefs.

The IPCC will continue to learn from experience, including criticism of its work. Thankfully, with inputs from thousands of respected scientists, world governments and now the IAC, the panel is in a better position than ever to provide a robust and reliable scientific basis for tackling the growing challenge of climate change.

[CaledonianGonzo]

The Sunday Times in 'making stuff up to promote climate change denialism' 'outrage':

http://climateprogress.org/2010/03/25/audio-sunday-times-leake-simon-lewis-ipcc-amazon-story/

[Johnny Yesno]

some of you are quite obsessed with this idea that opposition to the MMGW bandwagon is because of some conspiracy of propaganda paid for by the oil companies, which is a completely evidence free idea but one that has stuck with some of you.

Global Warming - "Glaciers"

The Competitive Enterprise Institute