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Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]

Started by aaaaaaaaaargh!, January 24, 2008, 05:00:45 PM

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Fields fucks up the bowl-cut guy when she trips him going down the stairs.  If she was working for the baddies she had a funny way of showing it!

gatchamandave

Quote from: copylight on November 24, 2008, 03:19:51 PM
Strange use of spoilers in this thread. 


Sorry - I forgot in my enthusiasm for my crackpot theory that others might not have seen the movie yet. Apologies.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

I thought M was being completely straight with Bond. If Fields was some badass agent there's no real poigniancy to that scene. If she was just a desk clerk who got in over her head because she was infatuated with Bond, it's a lot more tragic.

MojoJojo

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on November 25, 2008, 12:38:11 PM
I thought M was being completely straight with Bond. If Fields was some badass agent there's no real poigniancy to that scene. If she was just a desk clerk who got in over her head because she was infatuated with Bond, it's a lot more tragic.

Well, that would also turn M into a complete cunt for sending a secretary after a womanising, trained killer, taken off duty becase of killing too many people, currently fighting a one man war against a secret organisation that's killed quite a few people, by killing lots of people. With violence. And then blaming Bond for it when she gets killed - even though out of the people who die in the film, Fields is one of the few Bond didn't kill directly.


samadriel

M's not the chief of the SIS, right?  [make SIS-admin joke here]  Could some fool have gone over her head and sent the girl, not truly appreciating how'; lethal Bond's end of the spy game is?  Sorry, can't recall the relevant dialogue (or if they'd know where Bond was... this isn't going well).

(...The girl who played Fields is 22!  Bond girls can't be younger than me, it's not allowed!)

MojoJojo

Quote from: samadriel on November 25, 2008, 01:06:09 PM
M's not the chief of the SIS, right?  [make SIS-admin joke here]  Could some fool have gone over her head and sent the girl, not truly appreciating how'; lethal Bond's end of the spy game is?  Sorry, can't recall the relevant dialogue (or if they'd know where Bond was... this isn't going well).

I don't think that's ever suggested in the film... and however you look at it, if we're having to go this far extrapolating reasons, you have to conclude QoS's script/editing is a bit shit.

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(...The girl who played Fields is 22!  Bond girls can't be younger than me, it's not allowed!)

I had the same reaction... (assuming she was added as just bit of fluff, I'm glad they did. Yum.)

samadriel

Quote from: MojoJojo on November 25, 2008, 01:20:46 PM
I don't think that's ever suggested in the film... and however you look at it, if we're having to go this far extrapolating reasons, you have to conclude QoS's script/editing is a bit shit.
It was rather stunted in that regard, yes; I don't think the film deserves an outright slating, but it was a bit... thin.  Still, I'm not without hope for the third entry (oo-er?).

And yes, I must concur with yourself and the first tagger.  More please!

biggytitbo

I think we should conclude that the Fields character makes no sense whatsoever!

Still the lass that plays her is very nice.

Braintree

So am I the only one who thinks Bond should have fucked the fighty Russian-Bolivian instead of boring, naked Strawberry Fields.

samadriel

Oh, both, although the peeling sunburn on Russkibol's back was a bit distracting.

Or was that a scar from her dramatic childhood conflagration?

Quote from: samadriel on November 25, 2008, 04:05:46 PM
Oh, both, although the peeling sunburn on Russkibol's back was a bit distracting.

Or was that a scar from her dramatic childhood conflagration?

I think it was the latter, although it wasn't explained in the film.

Moore era Bond would've smashed both of the chicks.

samadriel

God yes, that man could fuck for England.

biggytitbo

Quote from: samadriel on November 25, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
God yes, that man could fuck for England.

"Just attempting re-entry sir."

He actually says that in a film that was actually released doesn't he? Got to love Rog haven't you?

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

He could roger more ladies than the other bonds combined.

Quote from: biggytitbo on November 25, 2008, 04:53:32 PM
"Just attempting re-entry sir."

He actually says that in a film that was actually released doesn't he? Got to love Rog haven't you?

No, Q says something to do with re-entry, not Bond, and he says something like "I think he's attempting re-entry sir".  Sorry to be pedantic.

Roger Moore was a walking, talking, fuck machine in his day.

Braintree

Quote from: samadriel on November 25, 2008, 04:05:46 PM
Oh, both, although the peeling sunburn on Russkibol's back was a bit distracting.

Or was that a scar from her dramatic childhood conflagration?

Haha! I thought it was sunburn too. The editing was terrible wasn't it? It didn't help me personally that I still haven't seen Casino Royale.

mycroft

Quote from: aaaaaaaaaargh! on November 25, 2008, 04:11:42 PMMoore era Bond would've smashed both of the chicks.

Tell you what else - in the scene where he and the girl walk past the well that's run dry with all the sad and thirsty villagers hanging around, Roger would have given it a quick elbow, causing cascades of water to flood out. Cue lots of happy villagers having a whale of a time as they dance about in it. Then he'd do a pun.


mycroft


biggytitbo

Quote from: aaaaaaaaaargh! on November 25, 2008, 05:04:15 PM
No, Q says something to do with re-entry, not Bond, and he says something like "I think he's attempting re-entry sir".  Sorry to be pedantic.

Roger Moore was a walking, talking, fuck machine in his day.

Ohh yeah, that's Moonraker isn't it? Still it was Roger's time and that line was actually allowed into the film and not cut out. What's not love!

biggytitbo

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on November 25, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
"Very well"

"Very well", raise eyebrow, hold paunch in.

And all the time he's wearing a white flared Safari suit. The man's fucking god.

CaledonianGonzo

Ironically (or not), the walking out of the desert in the dinner suit moment appeared to me as a more-or-less explicit homage to The Spy Who Loved Me.  One of three I spotted.

Quote from: biggytitbo on November 25, 2008, 06:05:53 PM
The man's fucking god.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rnVzwcM6wjI

kidsick5000

Quote from: aaaaaaaaaargh! on November 25, 2008, 04:11:42 PM
I think it was the latter, although it wasn't explained in the film.

Oh yes it was. Quite clearly too, I thought. Though you arent the only one who missed it. It is a bit jarring at first seeing the scar an wondering is it the character's or the actresses.
It reminds me of the 'ellipsis' thing from Casino Royale. Loads of people (including film critics which is particularly annoying) clearly not paying proper attention to the film.


I watched Moonraker and View to a Kill for the first time in years yesterday. Very odd films. Aside from the usual gondola hovercraft stupidity, they are very oddly put together films. Though the skydive chase from the start of Moonraker holds up pretty well

kidsick5000

Quote from: CaledonianGonzo on November 25, 2008, 06:50:43 PM
Ironically (or not), the walking out of the desert in the dinner suit moment appeared to me as a more-or-less explicit homage to The Spy Who Loved Me.  One of three I spotted.

I wrote a feature on the homages in QoS. That and Goldfinger are the obvious ones. What is your third?

CaledonianGonzo

Sorry  - I meant 3 TSWLM homages. 

1)  The dinner suit and evening dress stroll out of the desert
2)  The cover name Robert Stirling on the Universal Exports business card
3)  The Quantum goon hanging off the building by holding Bond's tie, with Bond sending him to fall to his death by swiping it away.

Quote from: kidsick5000 on November 25, 2008, 08:42:40 PM
Oh yes it was. Quite clearly too, I thought. Though you arent the only one who missed it. It is a bit jarring at first seeing the scar an wondering is it the character's or the actresses.
It reminds me of the 'ellipsis' thing from Casino Royale. Loads of people (including film critics which is particularly annoying) clearly not paying proper attention to the film.

Oh no it wasn't!  I should have said that it wasn't stated idiot-proofily enough in the film.

kidsick5000

Quote from: CaledonianGonzo on November 25, 2008, 08:55:02 PM
Sorry  - I meant 3 TSWLM homages. 

2)  The cover name Robert Stirling on the Universal Exports business card

Wow. Well spotted. I didnt make that connection

Ginyard

I'm with Biggy. I couldn't make head nor tail of some of the action scenes. Moves were spliced with an ADHD level of dedication; 12ms here, 25 ms there. It damaged the tension of what were obviously fantastic and well crafted stunts.

It was the first film where I've warmed to Dench's M though. She was really good in this one.

Catalogue Trousers

QuoteNo, Q says something to do with re-entry, not Bond, and he says something like "I think he's attempting re-entry sir".  Sorry to be pedantic.

Although Rodgy does say "Just keeping the British end up, sir", in the closing seconds of Spy Who Loved Me. Classic.

Ginyard

Thinking of Q, I've just read the Craig wants Q to return in the next movie. Good or bad idea?.