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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #330 on: November 26, 2008, 10:45:34 PM »
New Q could work, as long as they restrict the gadgets to From Russia With Love type stuff.

Unless you mean this guy

But that would be downright silly.

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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #331 on: November 26, 2008, 11:27:07 PM »
Just watched The Man With the Golden Gun yesterday and was shocked to find out that general opinion of it has it as THE WORST BOND FILM EVER (apart from possibly Die Another Day). I really can't get my head around that. Most sources on the net saying it's shit seem to cite a) the tin whistle sound effect on the bridge and b) some Chinese schoolgirls saving Bond with their karate. I'm sorry, but those two things seem really niggly. Of the 11 Bond films (first 9, Moonraker and QoS) I've watched in the past month or two, this is well up there. Worst of those 11 has to be Diamonds are Forever by far. I'll get round to ranking them properly though when I've finished all 22.

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« Reply #332 on: November 27, 2008, 12:17:26 AM »
I really, really like the scene in this at the opera. The bit when Bond is stood at the bottom of the stairs, staring down Greene and his goons to the sound of Tosca is fucking amazing.

Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #333 on: November 27, 2008, 12:22:06 AM »
As long as he's nothing like John Cleese in Die Another Day, and doesn't go overboard with stupid gadgets and "hilarious" things going wrong in the background of the gadget testing facility, I'd like to see it. He wasn't in the books so it's not like he's integral to Bond, but they could have him be like Boothroyd in Dr. No, just there to give him the latest weapon or spy equipment, nothing too flashy though. In other words, a realistic character as opposed to an eccentric old man giving Bond x-ray sunglasses and exploding shoes.

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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #334 on: November 27, 2008, 12:33:20 AM »
I'd quite like him to be someone outside the organisation, some frightened old nonce that Bond has something on and bullies for little gadgets that help massacre his foe.

Silent prayer: Dear God, I actually only got round to watching that Brosnan Bond film with the invisible car for the first time a month or so ago. Please never let that level of stupidity and shitness enter the Bond movies at any point again.

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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #335 on: November 27, 2008, 09:18:51 AM »
As long as he's nothing like John Cleese in Die Another Day, and doesn't go overboard with stupid gadgets and "hilarious" things going wrong in the background of the gadget testing facility, I'd like to see it. He wasn't in the books so it's not like he's integral to Bond, but they could have him be like Boothroyd in Dr. No, just there to give him the latest weapon or spy equipment, nothing too flashy though. In other words, a realistic character as opposed to an eccentric old man giving Bond x-ray sunglasses and exploding shoes.

I think Q is mentioned in the books... the worst bits of QoS we're the gadget stuff in his car, even though they tried to keep it relatively non-silly.
It would be good if they could come up with some sensible gadgets.

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« Reply #336 on: November 27, 2008, 09:25:11 AM »
I want Q in the next one, and I want him daft as a brush. Jesus this franchise has become po-faced and drab.

EDIT: And Hale & Pace appearing as a newly cloned Wint & Kidd, of course.

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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #337 on: November 27, 2008, 10:13:49 AM »
I really, really like the scene in this at the opera. The bit when Bond is stood at the bottom of the stairs, staring down Greene and his goons to the sound of Tosca is fucking amazing.

It is isn't it? Plus the indulgence of his "I can heaaar youuuu" piss-taking beforehand and that glorious silent action-sequence after that culminating in him k******g the g**n o** the r**f.

Call the new Bond po-faced but it certainly isn't drab, except for perhaps that M&S black zipper he wore at that scene at his mate's* house in Italy.

*I never remember any characters names.

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« Reply #338 on: November 27, 2008, 10:46:22 AM »
Call the new Bond po-faced but it certainly isn't drab, except for perhaps that M&S black zipper he wore at that scene at his mate's* house in Italy.

*I never remember any characters names.

The character was Mathis.  And if it had been a Moore era Bond he'd have been hanging out the back of that sexy older lady in no time.

I think Bond wears Brioni rather than M&S.  Lord knows how he affords it on his SIS operative's salary, I guess his parents and aunt must have left him loads of money.

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« Reply #339 on: November 27, 2008, 10:50:27 AM »
I did see it twice in a week, and I probably won't remember after that reminder either, but thanks.

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I think Bond wears Brioni rather than M&S

Either M&S are doing something right or Brioni are doing something wrong.

Don't get me wrong, the suits look brilliant but his casual clothes suck balls.

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« Reply #340 on: November 27, 2008, 10:55:55 AM »
I thought what he was wearing was quite nice actually, the sort of thing you'd expect a well off 40 year old man to wear.  Obviously it's not as stylish as a piece of casual clothing as, say, a safari suit.

edit - the suits are brilliant, but fairly expensive:

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Each garment requires at least 18 hours of work, and there are more than 5,000 different fabrics to choose from. Off the peg suits cost about $8000 on average,[1] and the custom-tailored from $6000 to $36,000.


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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #341 on: November 27, 2008, 11:09:00 AM »
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EDIT: And Hale & Pace appearing as a newly cloned Wint & Kidd, of course.
Let's not give 'em ideas, they might skew younger and go Pegg/Frost.

That ad for the game was a bit bizarre, wasn't it?  Robo-Craig being lightly buffeted for five minutes...
Have there been any Bond games that weren't completely focused on combat?  I'd actually covet a Bond game if it involved some Splinter Cell-esque espionage around the shootouts (a bit beefier than Splinter Cell though, give it some different paths to the intel, give it some major consequences for decisions, Witcher-style...)
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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #342 on: November 27, 2008, 11:22:13 PM »
I don't think what was wrong with Die Another Day was the invisible car or any of the gadgets as such, it was the ridiculous plot of a Korean war criminal undergoing plastic surgery and gene therapy in order to become an international diamond smuggler so that he could build a giant space laser (is that right? I haven't watched it in ages). When you put it like that it sounds like some shit parody of Bond.

That and the massive change in tone from the first half where Bond is in captivity to the fucking ridiculous second half. And the fact that Gustav Graves was Alan Partridge.

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« Reply #343 on: November 27, 2008, 11:40:53 PM »
Unless you mean this guy

But that would be downright silly.

You're right, Claude. The prospect shouldn't get me excited on any level.....yet somehow it does.

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« Reply #344 on: November 28, 2008, 07:24:53 PM »
For those who don't go into Comedy Chat that much, this was posted into the comedy cliches thread:

http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=6483.msg999380#msg999380

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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #345 on: November 28, 2008, 11:43:09 PM »
I hope the next Bond has a few gadgets. After all it's perfectly feasible that spies have all sorts of gadgets. Maybe not invisible cars or what have you, but possibly stuff like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_7750000/7750010.stm

I mean the fact that stuff like that exists in real life means it certainly would not look "unrealistic". Did QoS have any gadgets at all apart from weird computer interfaces and fancy iphone type phones? I can't remember any. I just think Bond needs some gadgets.

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« Reply #346 on: November 30, 2008, 08:39:03 PM »
Finally got round to seeing it.  Is Fields a bit of a riff on Tatiana Romanova in From Russia With Love?  Didn't SMERSH pick a girl from the typing pool and sent her half-naked to seduce Bond.

Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #347 on: November 30, 2008, 09:49:46 PM »
I really, really like the scene in this at the opera. The bit when Bond is stood at the bottom of the stairs, staring down Greene and his goons to the sound of Tosca is fucking amazing.
I finally got around to seeing Quantum today, and this was my favourite bit :-)

Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #348 on: December 01, 2008, 07:11:51 PM »
OK, so I got so bored at work that I've put together all the Bond films in order of imdb.com rating. I've also included the three non-official ones, which I've put an asterisk next to. I'd say the list is pretty close to my own preferences although I'd have the Dalton ones higher

Casino Royale (2006) 8.0
Goldfinger (1964) 7.9
From Russia with Love (1963) 7.5
Dr. No (1962) 7.3
Quantum of Solace(2008) 7.1
GoldenEye (1995) 7.1
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) 7.1
You Only Live Twice (1967) 7.0
Thunderball (1965) 7.0
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) 6.9
Live and Let Die (1973) 6.8
For Your Eyes Only (1981) 6.8
The Living Daylights (1987) 6.7
Diamonds Are Forever (1971) 6.7
The Man with the Golden Gun (1974) 6.6
Licence to Kill (1989) 6.5
Octopussy (1983) 6.5
Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) 6.4
The World Is Not Enough (1999) 6.3
*Casino Royale (1954) 6.2
A View to a Kill (1985) 6.1
Moonraker (1979) 6.1
*Never Say Never Again (1983) 6.0
Die Another Day (2002) 6.0
*Casino Royale (1967) 5.1

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Re: Quantum of Solace [new James Bond film]
« Reply #349 on: December 01, 2008, 09:02:39 PM »
Jemfred, you are My God For The Day, sir!