Ladies and their make-up

[El Unicornio, mang]

Well it makes sense, if you're a woman with some spots and you're with a man who has perfectly clear skin you might feel a bit awkward.

[biggytitbo]

I read statistics which said that about 1/4 of women actually prefer men with spots, not sure that the reverse is true, mind.

Even if they're on the arse and cock?

[El Unicornio, mang]

Even if they're on the arse and cock?

Well neither of those are attractive parts of the body anyway.

[El Unicornio, mang]

Anyway it was in one of my sister's 'Just 17' magazines so it must be true.

[biggytitbo]

Well neither of those are attractive parts of the body anyway.

Speak for yourself.

[Mindbear]

I never used to wear any make up whatsoever, right up until my mid twenties and always felt confident about it. However, I had a hormone implant a couple of years back and my skin went from being flawless to horrendous, spotty, patchy and greasy. Therefore, much to my boyfriends chagrin, I rarely leave the house without make up on.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

I generally prefer the natural look, but then I don't know much about make up, so perhaps all those lovely natural looking young ladies I've seen over the years were actually caked in the stuff, and were just very skilful about it.

[Famous Mortimer]

We can all say we prefer women without makeup on, but the shocking truth is they don't put makeup on to be attractive to men (well, not all the time).

[Mindbear]

A million womens mags tell you how to achieve that natural look. It takes quite a while actually, especially if you're over 23.

[boxofslice]

Isn't the reason women wear red lipstick something to do with a baboon's arse?

[SetToStun]

So Desmond Morris reckons. He says that since man evolved to walk upright, women's genitalia are no longer clearly visible, so men can't see the genital labia all engorged and red at the point of highest fertility. Women, therefore, adapted to show themselves to be ready and willing by painting their visible labia red. The connection to reproductive cycles has been lost, but the habit persists and men tend to respond. So he says, anyway, and he's got a degree and everything.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that's why full lips are seen as desirable and so many women risk Ashing themselves for a trout-pout.

[biggytitbo]

So Desmond Morris reckons. He says that since man evolved to walk upright, women's genitalia are no longer clearly visible, so men can't see the genital labia all engorged and red at the point of highest fertility. Women, therefore, adapted to show themselves to be ready and willing by painting their visible labia red. The connection to reproductive cycles has been lost, but the habit persists and men tend to respond. So he says, anyway, and he's got a degree and everything.

Desmond Morris is a dick. Didn't he claim the arse cleavage was some bizarre attempt to mimic the female tit cleavage? Or vice versa. The man's got a combover. Therefore everything he says is unreliable.

[Emma Raducanu]

Tit cleavage mimics the arse or so according to Ricky Gervais and he's even worse.

[biggytitbo]

So Desmond Morris reckons. He says that since man evolved to walk upright, women's genitalia are no longer clearly visible, so men can't see the genital labia all engorged and red at the point of highest fertility. Women, therefore, adapted to show themselves to be ready and willing by painting their visible labia red. The connection to reproductive cycles has been lost, but the habit persists and men tend to respond. So he says, anyway, and he's got a degree and everything.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that's why full lips are seen as desirable and so many women risk Ashing themselves for a trout-pout.

I've got massive lips - at school I got called 'mick jagger' and 'black man'. Does that make me a cunt? Actually, don't answer that, I think I know.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

We can all say we prefer women without makeup on, but the shocking truth is they don't put makeup on to be attractive to men (well, not all the time).

No. They do it because they're so adorably silly. Of course we men aren't subject to such vanity. By the way, have you heard about the new 6-bladed Gillette Sextro?

[boxofslice]

No. They do it because they're so adorably silly. Of course we men aren't subject to such vanity. By the way, have you heard about the new 6-bladed Gillette Sextro?

No but that new Wilkinson Sword one with the 15 blades, edger, trimmer, knife, nail clippers and blow torch is superb.

[23 Daves]

I like a bit of it, some eyeliner, a spot of lipstick. It's when they go overboard, caking on foundation with gaudy eye shadow that it looks nasty.

Agreed.  Surely it's not a case of make up being a bad thing, but bad make up being a bad thing?  And most women, rather like most men, don't necessarily understand what makes them attractive and therefore fail to play to their strengths.  It can become a question of doing something because it's fashionable or because all your friends are doing it rather than because it actually suits you.

And as for women who don't wear make up - a lot of them actually are, it just looks as if they're not.  They're being subtle and cunning.  One of my exes was like this.  People always assumed she never wore any, but in actual fact she'd always spend ages getting ready.

It's all a matter of taste as well.  I think freckles and pale skin are extremely attractive, for instance, but a lot of women will try to cover that up with mucho foundation and concealer, or fake tan.  Some men seem to like that, though.  Idiots.

[biggytitbo]

Whats the point of those 17 blade monsters? Is it because in the millisecond between the individual blades passing over a hair, it grows slightly and has to be reshaved? If that's the case it's really an unwinnable battle and the only logical conclusion is a razor with so many blades it stretches from here to the moon and takes an industrial winch to hold it up.

[Mindbear]

I don't get the fake tan thing, not one bit. Obviously having a tan on your thighs makes you look slimmer I get that bit, but making your face really brown looks slightly like you've been cooked. I have never ever considered even once putting fake tan on. I have a friend who is naturally ginger and very pale with freckles, and she's beautiful, but every sodding year she insists on sitting on sunbeds, putting darker than her face foundation on and looking just awful. It's the culture she's part of perhaps. I'm extremely pale with brown freckles and make sure I stay that way all year round, I don't think i've had a tan since 2001...I can't think of anything more dull than sitting around waiting for your skin to singe.

[gmoney]

Tit cleavage mimics the arse or so according to Ricky Gervais and he's even worse.

Can I just point out that he doesn't actually believe that (he said so on his old radio show), he portrayed a character that believed it. Thanks.

[ThickAndCreamy]

I don't get the fake tan thing, not one bit. Obviously having a tan on your thighs makes you look slimmer I get that bit, but making your face really brown looks slightly like you've been cooked. I have never ever considered even once putting fake tan on. I have a friend who is naturally ginger and very pale with freckles, and she's beautiful, but every sodding year she insists on sitting on sunbeds, putting darker than her face foundation on and looking just awful. It's the culture she's part of perhaps. I'm extremely pale with brown freckles and make sure I stay that way all year round, I don't think i've had a tan since 2001...I can't think of anything more dull than sitting around waiting for your skin to singe.

Tanned women to me usually look a bit strange and on occasions as if the tan, even if it is real, looks fake and cheap. A for fake tan, it's godawful in every circumstance. Especially in winter, you must be mental to think that fake tan looks in anyway attractive or good.

[biggytitbo]

I don't get the fake tan thing, not one bit. Obviously having a tan on your thighs makes you look slimmer I get that bit, but making your face really brown looks slightly like you've been cooked. I have never ever considered even once putting fake tan on. I have a friend who is naturally ginger and very pale with freckles, and she's beautiful, but every sodding year she insists on sitting on sunbeds, putting darker than her face foundation on and looking just awful. It's the culture she's part of perhaps. I'm extremely pale with brown freckles and make sure I stay that way all year round, I don't think i've had a tan since 2001...I can't think of anything more dull than sitting around waiting for your skin to singe.

Fake tans don't make owt brown though do they? All fake tan is orange for some reason, unlike real tans which are various shades of brown. They're not so much fake tans as inaccurate tans.

I don't see the point of fake tans anyway, why would you want to look like a labourer in the fields?

[El Unicornio, mang]

Oh come on, it's gorgeous look!



I remember I had to do fake tan a couple of years back for Halloween (I was going as Tony Montana). It took a week of applications though and I had to get the bus to work every day a different shade of yellowy orange, then 2 weeks for it to wear off. It was worth it though, I suppose.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Using fake tan is very silly, especially when you could just rub yourself with wet teabags.

[biggytitbo]

I'm convinced more than ever what we need is a great big economic crisis to shake people put of their orange faced, debt ridden stupidity.

[El Unicornio, mang]

I'm convinced more than ever what we need is a great big economic crisis to shake people put of their orange faced, debt ridden stupidity.

Or here's another solution

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CWVAA3zxP5I

[Koant]

New-Jersey or Vienna? Doesn't matter, it just doesn't work.

[El Unicornio, mang]

[Kays]

Let's see a before and after photo.

Not on your life!

Would I be wrong in assuming that a lot of spots, rashes and other 'imperfections' are actually caused by wearing make-up? So you end up in an endless cycle of having to cover up spots and whiteheads caused by blocking your pores with foundation?

Perhaps.  But it's mostly caused by not removing it properly at the end of the day.  Spots, etc. are probably caused mostly by bad diets/unfortunate genes.

What's wrong with looking at imperfections though? We have to live with imperfections don't we?  There's nowt wrong or unattractive about a few spots and blemishes, the catwalk fashion magazine appearances porn mentality is really unhealthy.

Well, that's what bothers me (and a lot of girls, I think).  I think boys and girls are growing up with this catwalk fashion magazine porn mentality, and - boys in particular - are genuinely shocked when they realise that not everybody looks like what you see in the magazines/on TV/in your boys magazines.  It's worrying. 

[El Unicornio, mang]

Plus the photos in mags aren't even real

http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop/