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F**k The Watershed: Brass Eye Special to be reshown

Started by Partridge's Love Child, April 19, 2004, 09:58:53 AM

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Morrisfan82

Oh great, BES in quick-fire clip format, that'll really help with the context of the humour won't it.

benthalo

I'm sure there'll be enough Heat writers available to fill in the gaps.

TJ


benthalo

Monkey Television seem to still be researching it, as I've heard from a couple of people who've been asked for interviews or advice. They seem to be covering the more controversial single plays, although to what depth I don't know.

I've not heard of a tx date yet.

NobodyGetsOutAlive

There was something on last week sometime (don't know if this has been mentioned in the forum...can't seem to see anything) called "Sex on TV" or something and it had a clip of BES on it. I only turned over half-way through (honest) and it had the typical paedogeddon clip and some woman talking about how Morris satirises the media, and not the topic of peadophilia , something along the lines anyway. did anyone else catch this and was anything interesting actually said?

benthalo

Sex On TV was a three parter from C4 c.2002 which was okay, but rather annoying at times. I seem to remember the final one on the 90s being a tit and arse showcase with some academic garnish.

weirdbeard

Quote from: "NobodyGetsOutAlive"There was something on last week sometime (don't know if this has been mentioned in the forum...can't seem to see anything) called "Sex on TV" or something and it had a clip of BES on it. I only turned over half-way through (honest) and it had the typical paedogeddon clip and some woman talking about how Morris satirises the media, and not the topic of peadophilia , something along the lines anyway. did anyone else catch this and was anything interesting actually said?

I taped this so when i get my arse in gear I'll capture the BES bit and I'll offer it to Neil for the site.

king mob

Quote from: "NobodyGetsOutAlive"There was something on last week sometime (don't know if this has been mentioned in the forum...can't seem to see anything) called "Sex on TV" or something and it had a clip of BES on it. I only turned over half-way through (honest) and it had the typical paedogeddon clip and some woman talking about how Morris satirises the media, and not the topic of peadophilia , something along the lines anyway. did anyone else catch this and was anything interesting actually said?

Nothing of any interest was said, it was just same old stuff again & how wonderful C4 are and how other channels dont show anything as classy in the porn stakes as C4.

TJ


keir

Quote from: "Purple Tentacle"
hehehe, I might as well set up a website, vaguerecollection.com , where I talk authoritively about old programmes having only seen them once when I was 11.

Doubtless it would be similar to TVGoHome's "Die Hard Through A Cow", where they televise the results of playing Die Hard to a cow, featuring a scene where Alan Rickman lies down because it's raining.

might even be a little like TVGoHome's 'Vague Recollection Theatre' where they remake Hollywood blockbusters based on the vague recollections of someone who saw them once years ago...

TJ


I don't think it did.  Bet whoever started this thread feels like a right div now.

Oh.

Morrisfan82

Channel 4 scrapped it because Jimmy Carr was unavailable to do links. They used the money saved to make Good AIDS Bad AIDS - A Retrospective Of Things.

Seriously though, I dunno. Seems a bit PR-exercisey in hindsight. At the time, did they have a vested interest in nibbling on MediawatchUK's sac or something?

kaprisky

Channel 4 are due to do another Banned Season, which apparently includes this:

QuoteX-Rated: The Tv They Tried To Ban [Men 16-34] - Seasons & Specials
This special programme charts the most contentious, controversial and scandalous TV moments over the past 40 years that have incited the moral guardians of the nation to rise up in disgust and outrage.

The show will look at how our attitudes towards sex, bad language and issues of taste on TV have developed over the years. X-RATED provides a fascinating insight into how the nation's attitudes and tolerance has shifted as exemplified in the expanse of shock TV over the last 15 years. The show will also examine the three most contentious broadcasts of all time from the viewpoint of the complainers as well as the broadcasters.

Can anyone guess what the other two are?
Actually this programme is potentially more interesting...

QuoteBanned In The Uk [ABC1 Men] - Seasons & Specials
This witty, nostalgic romp through the dustbin of British Culture gives a definitive account of censorship in Britain over the last two decades. Beginning in the 1980s the series will illustrate the changing culture of the UK through the films, books, activities, adverts and even toys that were banned.

From 'video nasties' to the film Crash, from the ban on handguns to Clause 28 and from programmes like Secret Society to the UEFA ban on English football clubs.

...it will most likely end up having a 'Football Stories' feel to it; all the facts are there but the most interesting bits will be briefly mentioned then ignored.

Did anyone catch that Sex in the 70s: Blue Movies show last night? A decent account of the sex film industry in Britain, that at least tried to give an historical and social reason for their existance. It was saddled with a 'low brow' narration though.

Clinton Morgan

That was terrible. The impression given was that the British film industry in the seventies made nothing but sex comedies. What about big-screen sitcoms or even horror ('The Mutations', 'The Wicker Man', 'Don't Look Now' etc)? Where was Kim Newman when you needed him? Why couldn't they interview Robin 'Appeared In Pasolini's The Canterbury Tales' Askwith or Tony Booth? They even rehashed that old nonsense about 'Peeping Tom' being banned. It wasn't. Also, why was the footage of Mary Whitehouse's Festival of Light in black and white? It was nearly good and in my mind that means bloody awful. Jokey narration can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

There was a similar documentary called, 'Doing Rude Things'  which I did not see but I assume must have been better.

Has anyone tried to interview people who went to the cinema to see films like 'What's Up Superdoc?'

alan strang

Quote from: "Clinton Morgan"There was a similar documentary called, 'Doing Rude Things'  which I did not see but I assume must have been better.

Introduced by Angus Deayton? Yeah, that one was pretty good as I recall.

It had a great interview with Robin Askwith in it anyway - they took him back to the very spot in the studio where a washing-machine-bubble-swamped-kitchen sex scene took place in one of the Confessions films.

His description of his allergic reaction to the bubble chemicals will stay with me forever: "All me fackin' bollocks was ruined and everyfink..."

weirdbeard

Quote from: "kaprisky"Channel 4 are due to do another Banned Season...

Details:

X-Rated: The TV They Tried to Ban (6th March, 22:00)

Feature-length documentary charting the most contentious, controversial and scandalous TV moments that have outraged and offended the moral guardians of our nation over the last 40 years. Since the first signals flickered from Alexandra Palace, sex, profanity and bad taste have incited the nation to complain "in the strongest possible terms". Television provides a fascinating document of shifts in the nation's attitudes and tolerance. X Rated: The TV They Tried to Ban charts how our collective mindset has changed by way of the barometer of national opinion: the response of the viewing public. The show examines how our attitudes towards sex, bad language and issues of taste have developed over the years: from the first group orgies through to the banned Footballers' Wives sex scene via gay sex, bestiality and the first proper airing of the accidental erection on Channel 4. From the onslaught of cursing, wild-haired yippies on David Frost's chat show through to Gordon Ramsay, Michael Grade's hidden curse in Brass Eye and Channel 4's unseen celebrity swearing trail, X-Rated shows the slew of shock TV from the last 15 years. The show also examines the three most contentious broadcasts of all time from the viewpoint of the complainers as well as the broadcasters. Using TV clips and interviews with the main on-screen protagonists, campaigning groups and individual viewers, X-Rated looks back on the events that made viewers put pen to paper - and jammed broadcasters' telephone lines up to the present day.  A host of contributors include Shaun Ryder, Armando Iannucci, Richard Curtis, Paul Daniels and James Dreyfus.

Banned in the UK (Part 1/4) (7th March, 23:05)

Banned in the UK takes a nostalgic look through the secret side of British culture, providing a definitive account of censorship in Britain over the last two decades. Beginning in the 1980s, this four-part series illustrates the changing culture of the UK through the films, books, activities, adverts and even toys that were banned, from "video nasties" to the film Crash, from the ban on handguns to Clause 28 and from programmes like Secret Society to the UEFA ban on English football clubs. Through insightful interviews with the censors, together with censored archive footage and previously banned material, the series explores what happened and what we can learn from this about life in Britain today. Tonight's episode focuses on 1980 to 1984 and looks at the introduction of "video nasties", how Derek and Clive caused a storm, and Margaret Thatcher's censorship of the Falklands War news reporting.

Banned in the UK (Part 2/4) (8th March, 23:05)

Tonight's programme focuses on 1985 to 1989, when Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams' voice was banned from the airwaves, football hooliganism and raves were on the rise and a band called the Beastie Boys were making their own statements.

Banned in the UK (Part 3/4) (9th March, 23:05)

Tonight's episode focuses on 1990 to 1994, when Britain's latest scare was BSE-infected beef. The Gulf War arrived, Madonna wrote a book about sex and bans were placed on celebrity football.

Banned in the UK (Part 4/4) (10th March, 23:35)

Tonight's programme focuses on 1995 to 1999 and looks at censorship in film, specifically examining why films like Crash and Kids caused such a storm. It also looks at corporal punishment, homosexuals in the military, the advent of alcopops and Brit Art and a new musician by the name of Marilyn Manson.

Banned Film Season

As part of Channel 4's Banned Season and to accompany the four part documentary series Banned in the UK, Channel 4 presents a season of films that have, for one reason or another, been banned in the UK.

Some of these to be shown are: 'The Evil Dead' (6th March, 23:35), 'The Idiots' '(8th March, 00:05), 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre' (9th March, 00:05), 'Bad Lieutenant' (10th March. 00:05), and 'Kids' (11th March, 00:40).  Also to be shown are : 'A Clockwork Orange', 'Sex: The Annabel Chong Story' and 'Crash'.

And finally:

X-Rated: The Sex Films They Tried To Ban

Sex on film has come a long way since the first striptease was immortalised on celluloid way back in 1896. So this winter, as part of Channel 4's Banned Season, X-Rated: The Sex Films They Tried to Ban, takes a ride through the unwritten history of the outlaws of the entertainment industry.

The history of sex on film is a tale of lust, money and two fingers up to the establishment. The French started it all; a few years after the birth of cinema they were already crafting stag films. It wasn't long before the rest of the world succumbed to the lure of cinema's forbidden fruit – trying to push the envelope to the limit. Hollywood's casting couch produced risqué gems with starlets, the no-nonsense Scandinavians built an empire on clumsily dubbed skin-flicks whilst the Japanese neatly filled the niche marked "weird" with robotic penis superheroes.

And let us not forget Britain's unique contribution to the smut race – a legacy of saucy classics that single-handedly kept our film industry afloat and yet have been cruelly airbrushed from history.

Today our celebrity-obsessed culture has lead to the latest example of the newest filth phenomena – Celebrity Sex - brought to world-wide attention by Pam and Tommy's now infamous honeymoon tape. So from Deep Throat and Edward Penis Hands, to One Night in Paris, spare your blushes as Channel 4 gives viewers a sneaky peek at the films they weren't supposed to see.

chav

The Banned in the UK sequence sounds completely misguided. From Derek & Clive to BSE beef? Hmm, one was rude, and one was DANGEROUS TO HEALTH

Succession of talking heads, anyone? Gina Yashere: "Yeh, I remember BSE!!" Stuart Maconie: *witticism*

Shindig

Kate Thornton: Oooooh, that Shipman fella was dead sexy....

The Mumbler

Was the whole Derek & Clive saga really 1980?  Or is it simply an excuse to use footage from that Christ-awful Real Derek & Clive doc.  Again.

Quote from: "chav"Stuart Maconie: *witticism*

Stuart Maconie was on Mark Radcliffe's show a few months ago and said that he hasn't done a talking heads nostaligia show for four years because everyone associated him with it too much.  By the same token, Radcliffe saw how much stick Maconie was getting for doing them, and decided to curb his involvement in such projects himself.

That has nothing to do with the thread, like.

chav

Just call me Mr. Cliche. Actually I haven't watched a talking heads nostaligia show for four years, so I have no idea what I'm blathering on about. Perhaps replace Maconie with "Boyd Hilton", and "witticism" with "half-baked sociological theory that initially sounds clever but is, upon further analysis, transparent" and I might be more accurate.

kaprisky

All is revealed...

http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfeatures/microsites/B/banned/listings.html

Fuck the Watershed is on E4.

Haven't seen Last Temptation of Christ, but I gather this caused a bit of a stir when it was screened in the past.