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what is the name of this painting
« on: June 24, 2008, 02:11:36 PM »
Hey. I saw it in the Asian art section of the New York met just under a year ago. It was quite a long section of scroll and it told the story of a guy's trip down a river, I think it was done by two people - one did the poetry and calligraphy and another guy did the artwork. It was really amazing but I don't know anything about art so haven't really got a clue how to find out its name. I've looked on the met website through the asian art section and it isn't there, maybe it's a bit of a long shot but if anyone knows anything about Asian art I think its pretty famous. Sorry this is a bit of a non thread, but if anyone has any similar requests stick them in here.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 04:24:02 PM »
Is it this?



If so, read about it here

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 04:37:09 PM »
If not, any idea of the period? This type of medium has been popular for centuries.

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 04:39:11 PM »
hey Cerys, thanks for that, it's lovely. It isn't the one I'm thinking of though unfortunately. I think maybe I'm imagining it, I've found one called Poem Written in a Boat on the Wu River which I thought was it but only has calligraphy in it with no colour or artwork (not that calligraphy isn't art but I'm not sure what word to use). Maybe I just totally misremember what I saw, but I'm sure I saw this amazing scroll, perhaps it was a bit more modern (maybe even 20th century?) that was quite long (long as in to the side), it had the beautifully drawn characters telling the story of this guy's trip down a river or just his day or something, and beside the characters where really amazing and sometimes quite abstract illustrations of the landscape and the things being described by the characters. I could just be imagining it or combining all my favourite pieces that I saw that day, I was totally blown away by the Asian art there and spent a couple of hours staring at and attempting to take in all these beautiful things but I really hope I'm not. I wanted to write down the name but didn't have my notebook on me. Ah well, thanks anyway.

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 04:41:52 PM »
If not, any idea of the period? This type of medium has been popular for centuries.
Hi, for some reason I think it may be fairly modern, as I said it could possibly even be from the mid twentieth century. I'm sorry, I'm really shit. Anything remotely related to what I described I'd be interested in looking at regardless of whether it's what I remembered or not Looking at it on a computer screens never going to be the same but would still be nice to know what it was.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 03:58:13 PM »
Dammit, I'm on a mission now.  Can you describe any particular images from it?

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 01:31:14 AM »
Dammit, I'm on a mission now.  Can you describe any particular images from it?
Haha, I'm not sure if my incredibly vague memories of the actual content would be much help. The symbols were fairly infrequent, I think the actual poem was quite short and very simple in its language. The art itself was similarly quite sparse, it kind of flowed really nicely into the white of the page and came out of no where and had this really dreamy lovely quality that fitted perfectly with the words of the poetry. I remember a tree and a river bank. In fact, maybe the whole scroll was one long illustration of the stream and it's banks, but it still retained the simplicity and I'm sure it used the white of the page to give it this dreamy quality.
I'm starting to think maybe I'm just imagining it all, maybe I just read the translation of Poem Written in a Boat on the Wu River and my mind created the images that I'm remembering.
Don't go to any trouble trying to find it Cerys, you might be looking for a painting radically different from my description, I thought it might be quite famous (it probably is) and someone maybe could tell from my description what its name was but my memory is shit. In a way it's quite cool if I never find out what it's name is I suppose. I remember exactly where in the Met I saw it which is annoying. If I go to NYC again I will definitely try and find it. Thanks for your help and interest. In looking for it I have found some really cool pieces of Asian art so maybe we can have a thread about that sometime.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 06:38:05 AM »
It sounds like something by Shitao (1642-1707)

Returning Home is close to your description, except that it's an album and not a scroll.


Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2008, 01:42:53 PM »
That's really nice Danger Man, would love to see it in higher quality. But it isn't the one unfortunately. The one I'm thinking of doesn't separate the calligraphy and art work like that I don't think, they are around each other if you get what I mean. I think finding it may be a lost cause. Thanks for everyone's help though.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 10:29:32 PM »
You could always send the Met an email and ask them to help you.

I'm sure the staff would be genuinely delighted to get a fan letter from a member of the public and the chance to 'play detective'/'show off their knowledge' would be irresistible. 

 

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 06:30:08 PM »
Any luck yet, APTS?

I'm trying to track down the name of a surrealist painting I saw in poster form getting on for twenty years ago.  All I can  remember about it is that it portrayed two (or possibly three) little girls playing, drawing, or reading in a room, the walls of which seemed to melt into a sea vista involving a ship.  Maybe.  Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2008, 02:30:35 PM »
....Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Not normally... but was it this one?



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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2008, 05:29:16 PM »
Yes!  That's the one!  Thankyou thankyou thankyou!  Google wouldn't put out for me.  I feel spurned.

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 11:44:21 AM »
Yes!  That's the one!  Thankyou thankyou thankyou!  Google wouldn't put out for me.  I feel spurned.

Hooray for me! I think I remember being a little disturbed by it in a school art class and that the artist’s name reminded of the word ‘apple’…. all I need to do now is find APTS’ mystery painting…

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 03:01:14 PM »
It's not:

Is it?

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2008, 05:14:16 PM »
I suspect that's too old and not long enough.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 12:24:16 PM »
That's what she said!

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2008, 05:33:57 PM »
Badum splot.

Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2008, 01:58:21 AM »
shit baxter I reckon that could well be it! How did you find it? It really does seem pretty familiar so I reckon my mind has just misremembered it as a much longer scroll thing. I need to find a high resolution version of that or a print or something, thats it though I'm sure, even in that low quality image it looks like the one, I love it. Thanks so much, and thanks a lot cerys too for your help and interest, I'm glad you got something out of the thread ie the name of that surrealist painting, which incidentally looks pretty amazing itself. Sorry for being so late, only just checked this thread again now wasn't really expecting anything, super happy now, thanks a lot peeps.


Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2008, 02:31:06 PM »
Thank flip for that - one less question I have to ponder during a sleepless night!

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2008, 02:03:00 PM »


Can anyone tell me who the hell painted this, at all? Please?

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2008, 02:11:06 PM »
Sod who, WHY?

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2008, 02:13:03 PM »
It's a friend's birthday and I'm scrambling for ideas; then I remembered that she liked this artist. I need to know!

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2008, 02:19:07 PM »
No, I meant why did they paint it? What the bejesus possessed them to do such a thing?

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2008, 02:29:51 PM »
Well, it's a short step from 'who' to 'why', hopefully.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2008, 03:01:10 PM »
That definitely looks like a Mark Ryden.

edit:  Yeah, look at the 'Meat Show' part of the gallery, the above pic is 'Princess Sputnik' from that section.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2008, 03:17:06 PM »
Thanks, samadriel!

Sadly, his works are too costly. Bah.

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2008, 03:32:13 PM »
Yeah, he's been a big deal for, jeez, 20-ish years now.  He did the cover of 'Dangerous', heheh.

You might be able to get, say, the 'Fushigi Circus' Ryden book from here?  Shipping could potentially bite you in the arse (it's a Sydney shop), and god knows if it really is still available there, but hey!  You'd roar with laughter to know what 75 bucks Australian is in GBP, so if the shipping's not alot worse...

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Re: what is the name of this painting
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2008, 03:52:51 PM »
Cheers Sam, but I've found a magazine that carried a few pieces of his work - that'll do the job nicely. I can pick up the Fushigi Circus book for about £35 over here, though - maybe for Christmas.