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Murdered woman's family blame the Internet for her death

Started by weirdbeard, February 05, 2004, 04:04:43 AM

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weirdbeard

QuoteSky News Report
The family of a musician strangled to fulfil the "bizarre" sexual fantasy of her killer, believe she would still be alive if it was not for the internet.

Graham Coutts, 35, was jailed for a minimum of 30 years for strangling special needs teacher Jane Longhurst with a pair of tights.

During the trial, the court heard how Coutts had a seven-year addiction to internet pornography, and that he had surfed the web for images of dead and strangled women on the day before he murdered Miss Longhurst.

Speaking after the verdict, Miss Longhurst's family called for tighter regulation on the kind of pornographic internet sites used by Coutts.

Her mother said she "owed it to Jane" to pressure providers to close down the sites.

"It is monstrous, if they were going to publish books with that sort of material they would be prosecuted," she said. "It's absolutely vile.

Is this just an emotional over-reaction by her family or are they justified in saying this?  It's certainly a horrific crime.  

And do headlines like this in a national newspaper help?


Dr. Gizmonic

Sure the Internet kills people, but that's all part of its charm.
These brave cretins selflessly die so that we, the lucky many, may enjoy our limitless pornography, illegally acquired music and many and myriad forum personas.

I salute them.

Trouser Cough

'Special Needs Teacher' - was he one of her pupils I wonder? If so I have an odd feeling the internet wasn't the deciding factor in his choice...

Rubbish Monkey

If it was 10 years ago it would of been horror films and/or Heavy Metal music that killed her.

* Or Aids.

Or a dangerous dog

good job they don't excist anymore isnt it?

*actually I do rememebr seeing a AIDS warning thing on the side of the bus this morning, which is the first one i rememebr seeing for ages....which is why i remember it...Its unusal for me to take in anything before at least 2pm

imitationleather

It's just kneejerk bollocks, isn't it? Yes, it's a horrible tragedy that she was murdered but blaming something as wide and varied as the internet is like blaming the river because people jump in it and die. Well, maybe it's not really, but it's 4.20am and I can't think of anything better.

This sort of thing happens all the time. Someone dies and then the meeja decides to blame a subculture that it has no understanding of (that's right, we're a subculture). Like how cannabis got blamed for a teenager killing someone, now the internet's being blamed for murder as well. I suppose that we should ban all TV because that might have some influence over people, but of course that'll never happen because the family of the deceased actually enjoy watching it and know that it's not really harmful at all.

I can forsee another Sarah's Law type situation where everyone who supports something to take away people's liberties is right and holier than thou, and everyone who opposes it is a fucking nonce and probably likes killing people.

Cerys

If he was trawling the 'Net specifically looking for images of strangled women, does anyone really think he only did it because he (presumably) found some?

Dr. Gizmonic

Quote from: "imitationleather"It's just kneejerk bollocks, isn't it? Yes, it's a horrible tragedy that she was murdered but blaming something as wide and varied as the internet is like blaming the river because people jump in it and die. Well, maybe it's not really, but it's 4.20am and I can't think of anything better.

This sort of thing happens all the time. Someone dies and then the meeja decides to blame a subculture that it has no understanding of (that's right, we're a subculture). Like how cannabis got blamed for a teenager killing someone, now the internet's being blamed for murder as well. I suppose that we should ban all TV because that might have some influence over people, but of course that'll never happen.

I can forsee another Sarah's Law type situation where everyone who supports something to take away people's liberties is right and holier than thou, and everyone who opposes it is a fucking nonce and probably likes killing people.

Last I checked, the majority of Fleet Street believed that the Internet is a giant silver ball suspended on a permanent lightning bolt over Time Square. Well, that or a random collection of vacuum tubes and Tesla coils assembled in some Braensturm's shed. What you don't understand is scary, and easily made into a scapegoat.

imitationleather


Rats

Killed by tights!
You see, doesn't have the same ring to it. If you want to sensationalise it a bit more
Killer tights! Death by tights! Fucking hell!
or even
Killed by tights round the neck! Pornography addicted pervert lives out sick fantasy!

You could say this guy was going to end up doing something like this eventually regardless of where he got his porn because he was so obsessed with strangling womens tits off but If you're addicted and have lots of sick shit on tap then it's only going to speed up the process. I don't know what they can do though.

gazzyk1ns

Quote from: "Cerys"If he was trawling the 'Net specifically looking for images of strangled women, does anyone really think he only did it because he (presumably) found some?

Now you've put an image in my head, of the guy sitting at his PC, trawling around a Google image search for "dead women", muttering to himself "fake... fake... staged... useless... fake... appalling makeup... fake.. WICKED! this one's real! Now I can go strangle that teacher!"

There will be a screencap of this paragraph on Friday's paper now, underneath the headline INTERNET MOCKS BRUTAL MURDER

Cerys

Or possibly 'GAZZYK1NS MOCKS BRUTAL MURDER'.  With a picture of you.  Monged, obviously.

Damn, where's that evil smiley when you need it...?

Pinball

How keen the British people are to be controlled. When we're completely controlled, and have no freedom, everything will be fine with zero crime. Worked for Stalin <rolleyes>

Vermschneid Mehearties

Last time I was looking for pictures of screaming and murdered sex people, I didn't find anything. Good fucking job seen as what's happened. I'd have been rundumbled. Cacks.

Pinball

Expect authoritarian Blunkett to jump on this bandwagon as an opportunity for further net monitoring and intervention. Presumably these sort of images are illegal in UK anyway so are on US etc. websites. This means the only possible government action would be via ISP monitoring and/or banning of access to certain websites from the UK. Australia already have proxy servers banning Aussie access to hardcore porn sites, so I guess the UK will be next...

I'm not condoning blah blah, but we become more like fucking China every day.

elderford

If anything wouldn't it go the way of Operation Ore?

Credit card records and whatnot to catch the sick puppies whilst those of us in the cheaper seats just look at the free pictures on the homepages?

Vermschneid Mehearties

QuoteI'm not condoning blah blah, but we become more like fucking China every day

They're even taking over our snooker tournaments. Below is Ding Junhui, who despite being extremely entertaining and talented, oddly seems to originate from China. Surely that's impossible.


I don't know what all the fuss is about, the internet has killed me more times than I care to remember.

I wonder if he might of killed women before this if he had been denied access to his horrendous fetish on the internet?

steevbishop

CEO of Pretty Polly Corp. PLC resigns

In a shock admission shortly after 9am this morning Brian Furhamrumha, Cheif Executing Officer of the Pretty Polly Corp. PLC, issued a statement whilst contained within a cube of bulletproof glass and wearing a pair of tights over his head, to protect his identity.

"I am deeply shocked and appalled by the recent events which led to death via asphyxiation with the use of one of our products. While it has never been our intention to create a product that could be misused in order to carry out a crime, it is now clear under further examination that our products suffer a dangerous flaw in its design. To that end, as of midday today we will be ceasing production of our whole line, and launching an inquiry into exactly how this flaw has managed to wring itself into our stringent quality control processes.
"Furthermore," Mr. Furhamrumha continued, "so as to make our convictions clear, we will be shutting down our entire website, including the store, and replacing it with a copy of this statement, a memorial picture of the victim and a couple of javascript flying cherubs playing harps."

At this stage, several pensioners broke down into tears while seemingly struggle with something beneath their skirts, and at least twenty members of the public brandishing copies of today's editions of the Daily Mail and The Mirror attempted to rush the glass cube in an effort to overturn it and shame the CEO, by pelting the cube with some eggs. Once order was restored by some rather brave journalists, some of whom report on the internet, Mr. Furhamrumha continued with his statement.

"The board members and I gathered an emergency meeting earlier this morning in order to discuss this crisis, and while we believe our company can continue in its honourable service, changes are required. While many of those changes will be announced via carrier pigeon at a later date, the board and I have agreed that we must start from the top down.
"It is with regret, but with the knowledge of a tidy sum appearing in my back account in just four days time, that I announce I will be stepping down from my postition here at Pretty Polly Corp. PLC, effective from our closure at midday today. I want to take this opportunity to thank the tireless efforts of those who work beneath me, and to remind them that even though they have all played their part in our darkest day, there's no need to blame themselves. None at all. It's fine. Do not be bothered by it."

After the statement was delivered, a large black sheet was draped over the glass cube and was forklifted into the back of large truck, which quickly sped from the scene with a police escort. It's destination is unknown.

When questioned about the company's future method of announcements, Press Officer David Eff responded: "The internet is clearly a suggestible method of communication and hasn't been without controversy in its short but storied history. This is why we have closed our website, including the store. We believe that carrier pigeon is a reliable distribution method without the bias or suggestibility of other media outlets. We will have this situation under constant review, and may alter our plans at a later date."

Michael Howard, bespectacled leader of the governmental opposition party The Conservatories, has already ordered an public inquiry into the recently announced private inquiry by Mr. Furhamrumha, in order to make sure that the right questions are asked regarding not only the production process, but the process that established the production process as well as the decisions that led to the process that established the process to establish a production process.
Future leader of his local bowls community, Charles Kennedy, has already stated the inquiry doesn't go far enough, saying: "It's one thing to examine the processes that determine how a pair of tights are made, but I believe we are sidestepping the real issues by not also investigating the fundamentals in the design and asking the question why we need tights in the first place."

The internet was unavailable for comment.

Purple Tentacle

steveebishop that's really made me chuckle, excellent.

Quote from: "Pinball"but we become more like fucking China every day.
Too right mate! My border collie went missing yesterday morning - last night, my wife served me 'stringy chicken' for dinner.

Also, I agree with Charles Kennedy when he questions the need for tights. What's wrong with good old fashioned stockings and suspenders? Much, much, much, safer...

Do you know what we need? We need a murderer with a bit of common sense (no don't laugh!) to speak out to the press and explain exactly how long they've had a distorted sexuality for, what sort of fantasty stimulus they look for and just what the hell difference it makes to their motivations - those are the people to ask about this, not psychologists who want to get on television. Start asking the people who suffer from sadistic urges, they're the only ones who know the truth no matter how many experts you cough up.

Crimes like this can be avoided, I believe, by accepting urges like this are as much a disability to be pitied as any other disability and offering genuine confidential and properly researched support to those who suffer from it and look for help. As it stands right now you wouldn't walk into a doctors and tell him you are a bit worried because the thought of strangling a school teacher gives you the horn and expect help, it's all too taboo for people like that to do such a thing and not get locked away for others protection - if it's accepted as disease and treated as such then maybe people will seek help for it instead of keeping it hidden until it overpowers them completely. This is the sort of radical action we should be looking at and not trying to take away fantasy fodder in the misguided hope that a lack of it will suddenly change peoples way of thinking. It's just common sense. Crimes like this have been going on for decades before the advent of the internet.

Does looking at straight porn lead to an increase in a normal sex life?

Matthias

Why blame the Internet for the death of their daughter? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to blame the sick fucker who tortured and murdered her?

Rubbish Monkey was right... ten years ago they'd have blamed Heavy Metal or something. Maybe they should blame Marilyn Manson. After all, he has got a website and he so obviously 'made' those Columbine kids pump lead into their classmates. Val Doonican has a website and look what's happened... Asylum seekers have started wearing brown cardigans emblazoned with beige diamond patterns.

I've seen nasty, gory, pictures and movies of murdered people on t'internet. We humans are curious by nature. But it doesn't make me want to go out and murder someone. The government, on the other hand, make me want to torch the houses of parliament in a Fawkes stylee. I reckon all violent behaviour is a direct result of government oppression. As for the 'shock' revelation that up to a third of Internet sites are pornographic, well that's good... it keeps the US economy bouyant. Just think, if it wasn't for the tax revenue from all these porn sites, George Dubbya Bush probably wouldn't be able to afford to destroy countries in the Middle East just because he's bored.

The media make me sick. We already live in a fascist state where every month another law is modified to deny us our human rights and the media insist on throwing more paraffin onto the fire with their incessant bullshit. It's almost as if they want to be controlled by the state.

It's usually videogames that are blamed for everything. But it's utter shite. I play Super Mario. It's just a game. It doesn't influence me to ride a dinosaur through Wolverhampton, twatting turtles across the head with shells as I go. Ok, so that would be tremendous fun... maybe the wrong game to use as an example. Ok, so I play Grand Theft Auto, but I've never felt the need to steal cars, burn Chinamen or run like I've just shit myself.

There's no hope for the human race. The end is nigh.
John Lydon for PM, I say!

Quote from: "imitationleather"
I can forsee another Sarah's Law type situation where everyone who supports something to take away people's liberties is right and holier than thou, and everyone who opposes it is a fucking nonce and probably likes killing people.



Longhorn is big brothers dream.  If you dont upgrade your children will be fucked up the arse by old men in parks.

steevbishop

Quote from: "New World Order"Longhorn is big brothers dream.  If you dont upgrade your children will be fucked up the arse by old men in parks.

Am I the only one, in that context, to find Longhorn a little uncomfortable?

Quote from: "New World Order"If you dont upgrade your children

I can see the headline now...
GOVERNMENT LAUNCHES CHILD UPGRADE PROGRAMME TO COMBAT YOUTH SUGGESTIBILITY

butnut

Quote from: "Pinball". Australia already have proxy servers banning Aussie access to hardcore porn sites, so I guess the UK will be next...


What - they're stopping the auzzie's getting porn? They'll be riots in the streets.

Timmay

Quote from: "butnut"
Quote from: "Pinball"Australia already have proxy servers banning Aussie access to hardcore porn sites, so I guess the UK will be next...
What - they're stopping the auzzie's getting porn? They'll be riots in the streets.
I *knew* there was a reason why I don't want to live there.

MojoJojo

I think, technically, this would be far harder to do in the UK, because far more traffic actually goes through the UK. (All the transatlnatic links).

butnut

Oh, and you can ring up radio 5 after 1, and talk to Simon Mayo, about this very subject. Come on, vent your disgust at all this internet filth. Save your families now!

king mob

If you do a Google on the chaps name this site is top.


Dont quite know what to make of that really?!?

Krang

Quote from: "Timmay"
Quote from: "butnut"
Quote from: "Pinball"Australia already have proxy servers banning Aussie access to hardcore porn sites, so I guess the UK will be next...
What - they're stopping the auzzie's getting porn? They'll be riots in the streets.
I *knew* there was a reason why I don't want to live there.

they could just fly over to Bangkok.