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"Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« on: August 04, 2008, 09:00:59 PM »
As promised a couple of updates ago, I've typed up the limited edition Nathan Barley map that was sent out along with the press release.  Thank you very much to the kind chap who passed one my way back in 2005!  Sadly, I can't get it scanned or anything, so I've typed it all up, and will also attempt to stitch a load of photographs together.  Worth a go.  The map gives quite a lot of background details that I'm pretty sure weren't featured anywhere else, so it's worth a read.  Click the image below to go to the transcript.


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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 09:33:47 PM »
Cheers Neil - curiosity sated. :)

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 09:44:06 PM »
Heh no probs, what did you think of it rudi?  I'd be interested to hear what fans of the show think too.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 10:17:07 PM »
Well, it wasn't worth the wait, that's for sure. It basically reads like Morris-fan fiction. Which sums up Brooker quite nicely really.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 12:48:57 AM »
Well, it wasn't worth the wait, that's for sure. It basically reads like Morris-fan fiction. Which sums up Brooker quite nicely really.

Yes, its a nice idea, dreadfully executed, isn't it? (although a bloody interesting thing to see - thanks for all the effort Neil, and whoever sent it to you). But all those street names are deeply embarrasing, and the descriptions aren't even a patch on the things Morris wrote for the Blue Jam Tragigrams website (that one for the Blue Jam release, whatever it was really called).

In any case, really want to thank you for transcribing it all, Neil. I'll have a more thorough look at it all tomorrow. Ta, sir.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 02:18:31 AM »
Heh no probs, what did you think of it rudi?  I'd be interested to hear what fans of the show think too.

It's odd really. It is easy to think that the reason the "humour" all seems so dated is because of the time since the series and our familiarity with it, especially on these pages (I do enjoy the use of Barley-esque terms on here; originally used in the series to lampoon a particular 'scene' then hijacked on here to lampoon the scene that produces such lampoonery; wheels within [BMX] wheels), but I still remember thinking how late on the uptake the whole thing was anyway.

I know I'm a victim of being on the bleeding edge of style and fashion - that's just how I'm livin' yeah? - but even at the time it was all at least three years too late, especially shocking considering how ahead of the curve TDT was.

I still want that map though.  :)

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 09:12:40 AM »
I really like it. Yes it tells us what we already know but I was quite fond of the show at the time (though I will admit I can't really sit through repeated viewings now, I bet you lot killed my enthusiasm for it you Morris hataz you) and I like how it's put together, especially the format of the map itself which looks really clean and crisp.

The only thing I could suggest that would make it more interesting would be to have used different images than the ones we're too familiar with, ones that are included in the DVD book and also as content on the DVD/Trashbat site. It's a bit overplayed and I definitely think they missed a trick with creativity there. If they were gonna go to the trouble to make this map, you'd think they'd make it toally unique, no? Those SugarApe covers and the pop-art Jones are totally over-used.

edit: To say thanks Neil, this is really interesting nonetheless and I'm very grateful for you uploading this and transcribing it.

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 09:17:39 AM »
I'm just reminded of how disappointing and deflating it all was.  I haven't really watched TV since.

Not to make light of all your hard work typing it out.  I probably shouldn't have bothered looking at it!

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 02:18:32 PM »
Yeah, reading that back I sounded like a right cock there. Cheers for transcribing it Neil, it's just a shame the material's not too good. Still better than that Lee/Crook clip though.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2008, 03:01:44 PM »
Yeah, reading that back I sounded like a right cock there. Cheers for transcribing it Neil, it's just a shame the material's not too good. Still better than that Lee/Crook clip though.

Haha, yeah, I was worried I came across as ungrateful too. I'm honestly not, I think its incredibly good of Neil to have transcribed it all like that. Big hugs, sir. And anything from Morris, even this kind of stuff, is facinating to a nerd like me.

I really like it. Yes it tells us what we already know but I was quite fond of the show at the time (though I will admit I can't really sit through repeated viewings now, I bet you lot killed my enthusiasm for it you Morris hataz you) and I like how it's put together, especially the format of the map itself which looks really clean and crisp.

I agree that the idea of a map in that style is actually really good, and would have been a nice addition to the DVD... but again it raises questions about the immense hypocrisy of those posters from the show, which read something like ("if you're reading this, you're a pause stabbing nerd's cunt"; when all of his shows have been packed with detail, and conceptial touches like this.

Those posters, more than anything else, made me think that Morris had vanished up his own fundemant and make me wonder if he sneers like that at every fan who meets him.

I really hope not.   

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 03:29:40 PM »
Probably not, if you listen to how he answers questions at that Q+A thing from a while back he doesn't come across that way at all.

Also because its a joke. From a TV show. And not real life.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 03:33:14 PM »
And not real life.

it was all a horrible dream

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2008, 04:04:13 PM »
Do you suppose Chris has woken up yet?

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2008, 05:42:21 PM »
I like how it's put together, especially the format of the map itself which looks really clean and crisp.

More work by TDR?

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2008, 11:18:12 AM »
Did "Place" with its recording studios and bar appear in the show itself?  I know "The Premises" very well- a real recording studio and bar in the 'Hosegate' area.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 12:11:12 PM »
Probably not, if you listen to how he answers questions at that Q+A thing from a while back he doesn't come across that way at all.

Also because its a joke. From a TV show. And not real life.

Not sure if I've misunderstood this comment, but do you agree that it's either a hypocrital and cunty (but heartfelt) dig at people who look for extra details in his comedy OR a hollow, and therefore pointless, dig that he doesn't actually believe in.

Either way, tiny and inconsequential as the joke may be, it shows a real change in Morris' attitude since the glory days when he packed his shows with hundreds of superb little background extras, presumebly for people to see should they so desire.

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 01:53:07 PM »
As a touch it reeked of Brooker though, it's worth remembering that Nathan Barley was a joint project.

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 02:03:04 PM »
Did "Place" with its recording studios and bar appear in the show itself?  I know "The Premises" very well- a real recording studio and bar in the 'Hosegate' area.

Yeah, it was in episode 3 I think...kicked off with a Morris-narrated computer animation thing, then they had all this "Doug Rocket"/Veryphonics stuff. 

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 02:07:01 PM »
Here's the Place animation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjVj7F7gCnA

I still don't get some most of the Barley references, in general.  I remember someone saying "The Bikes" were "Queenz Of Noize" though, and I vaguely know who they are now after they were on that abysmal Big Brother spin-off show. 

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 02:20:53 PM »
Yeah, it was in episode 3 I think...kicked off with a Morris-narrated computer animation thing, then they had all this "Doug Rocket"/Veryphonics stuff. 
Ah right, thanks.  Reading it again* I see it's clearly meant to refer to Dave Stewart's club/studio/node "The Hospital."  But I do wonder if the name is taken from "The Premises."  The club based in the luggage shop is a reference to "Dream Bags and Jaguar Shoes" a real bar based in two adjoining shops with those names, and that's not far from The Premises.

*edit: and now having also watched that clip.

Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2008, 05:39:53 PM »
Just added a non-update thingy to the front page about tonight's radio extravaganza...

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Re: "Hosegate's Bummest Nodes"
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2008, 03:59:00 PM »
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