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"Chavs" ruined my morning.

Started by Borboski, April 22, 2004, 10:34:08 AM

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Borboski

Ah come on - that bunch but doth scratch the very surface on Chavdom.

There are depths of depths to go through before you reach the kind of young man that threatens strangers on the bus, with two chubby faced female trogolydytes cramming chips into their chubby cakeholds egging him on.

Evil Knevil

What happens to Chavs? I mean what happens after they finish school, or even reach 25?

Jaffa The Cake

Quote from: "Evil Knevil"What happens to Chavs? I mean what happens after they finish school, or even reach 25?
They have charver kids, or go to jail. When I go back home, I often see charvers from school doing building work.

gazzyk1ns

This thread goes quite well with this one I started a couple of days ago, a lot of people in there seemed to be arguing that you should "treat everyone the same", to make a bit of a sweeping statement.

I know this thread is a bit more of a "rant" thread, started out of understandable frustration, but has anyone posted here saying "litte fuckers they should all die!", but had also agreed with the "treat everyone the same" way of thinking in my thread?

Krang

Have a large family, live off benefit, appear on wifeswap.

fanny splendid

Quote from: "Krang"But all they do is look down on society, so why should they be included as a part of it?

To give the rest something to look down on. Fear and hatred do wonderful things for productivity. The government pays certain people, through the benefit system, to display to us the life waiting for us if we don't keep our heads down and work quietly until we die.

Ah, my communist youth...

hands cold, liver warm


Krang

In that case, i would request they have strict controls on the population levels.

A vision for the future perhaps. A robot chav on every street corner, reminding us all that life could be worse.

Morrisfan82

The funniest story I saw about idiots copying Jackass was a guy who put a firework in his arse cleft and lit it. When it exploded, aside from some very nasty burns, it damaged several... 'clench'-related muscles in that area, leaving him both incontinent and impotent for life.

phes

Quote from: "Jaffa The Cake"
Quote from: "Evil Knevil"What happens to Chavs? I mean what happens after they finish school, or even reach 25?
They have charver kids, or go to jail. When I go back home, I often see charvers from school doing building work.

Can't help feeling your cutting off your nose...etc,etc. I wonder if 'chavs' built your house.

fanny splendid

I like the headlines on picture no.3

win a game boy and we need a hero

Jaffa The Cake

Quote from: "phes"I wonder if 'chavs' built your house.
Strangely enough, I know some of the people who built my house (Carlisle). One of my mate's Dad built the roof, he used to be a charver but is one of those respectable "Don't want that fucking life for my son" people. Didn't build the house specifically for us by the way, I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination.

The house I'm staying at during uni probably was build by charvers, and it's a fucking state. When you turn on a light, there's a 50/50 chance it'll either blow, or explode, flying out of the socket taking a few fuses with it. Seriously, this happens.

hands cold, liver warm

There was another story in my current local rag about the tragic death of a 14 year old girl. However her ned parents had spelt her name wrong on the birth certificate, so instead of being called Carrie Ann, she was called Carry Ann. Which of course made me think of one of my favourite films, Carry Ann Up The Khyber. Which she was, in a sense.

My mum knows a local kid whose scally ned parents couldn't spell Laurie, so on his birth certificate he is called Lorry.

hencole

Enouigh of the ned bashing people. I want to hear some sensible suggestions for a happier intergrated society.

Evil Knevil

Quote from: "hencole"Enouigh of the ned bashing people. I want to hear some sensible suggestions for a happier intergrated society.

End of the welfare state, replaced by true grassroots based Socialism?

Sorry, that's my answer for everything :)

Borboski

Quote from: "hencole"Enouigh of the ned bashing people. I want to hear some sensible suggestions for a happier intergrated society.

That's what I was hoping for...

By moaning about it we ARE saying its a genuine problem. The difficulty is its  ingrained in communities, (generations of unemployed people f.a.). The governemnt is addressing social exclusion, and regeneration - but its these swathes and swathes of young people that aren't in touch with any state agencies, other than school if they turn up, or the courts and youth offending teams if they push it too far.

So if it's a genuine problem - and in 10 years time we'll see a further polarised society, with a bigger gap between the bruschetta eating socially active classes and those that simply do nothing but fight, smoke, and claim benefits (although I do not believe there are many people like this) what solutions could a government persue?

Like I said - citizenship in schools has to be taken a lot more seriously, but what else?

Geej

Quote from: "Krang"
Quote from: "Geej"
My own opinion is that Society has to be made up of a variety of groups in order to operate properly.  The troublesome lower class teenager has always been around, and is a part of this society.  The best way to combat this is to find and encourage better role models than the ones presently available.

Society needs a variety of groups to operate properly, but does it need a group with, as you say, little or nothing to offer?

By golly of course society doesn't need an entire group of Burberry wearing rat boys with nothing to offer.  What I am trying to find out is how to help them find a purpose other than that of impregnating their grease covered female versions.

If these people (and let's not forget that, and try and write them off as animals or 'vermin') feel disassociated with the rest of society then isn't it our duty as fellow humans to try and help them?
This whole 'wave' of uncared for youth is pretty large, and geographically diverse.  I disagree that it also spreads over class. The fact that middle class kids are dressing up and acting 'chav-like' is just a copy-cat instinct that happens when those feeble rebellion hormones come on-line.  It is natural to try and upset your parents off through mimikry of those which it is felt that they hate.

Those that say "We need a War" or "A bit of discipline" is what they need have found an easy answer.  I think there is a wide age range which is missing out on a sense of purpose (I know I am) and responsibility.

Apart from a decent revolution I don't know what we can do.  I really don't.
How about conscription? - Bollocks - why fight for a country that doesn't care about you?
Decent education for all? - Why bother?
A less cynical media? - purleese!

(You know I have been stroking my beard in a lefty liberal type way when writing this - don't you?)

Edit to say: - Where is AY when you need his glorious views? - I'm sure he has an entertaining answer that will offend everyone (I hope)

Jaffa The Cake


zozman

Nobody going for my marauding death squad idea then?

phes

I would bery very grateful if somone could explain how to quote small parts of a lage post. Thankyou.

Krang

Actually i think education might be an answer.

For one, theres the teachers themselves. I know i pushed alot of teachers to breaking point during my rebellious years, but its nothing compared to what some of these kids are doing these days, and they are starting younger and younger.

There tends to be a student sub-culture, which has emerged from lower-class blackgrounds.

Middle and lower seem to be joining together now, with skilled manual work being more respected etc. I feel this could lead to the arrival of a new Super Lower Class, which would consist of 100% pure bred Chavs.

Perhaps offering kids more options from a younger age would encourage them to work harder.

smoker

Quote from: "phes"I would bery very grateful if somone could explain how to quote small parts of a lage post. Thankyou.

hit the quote button on the post, then delete the text you don't want to quote, leaving the
Quoteand
on either side. if you want to quote more than one part of a post, put the quote tags on the outside of each part

Krang

QuoteOr you can highlight the section you want to quote, and then click the "quote" button, which appears above where you write your reply.

phes

Quote
Quote from: "Krang"or you can highlight the section you want to quote, and then click the "quote" button, which appears above where you write your reply
thanks

phes

Quote from: "smoker"

hit the quote button on the post, then delete the text you don't want


Thanks.

Capuchin

If only all education was that easy.

DistantAngel

Quote from: "Muteki"The funniest story I saw about idiots copying Jackass was a guy who put a firework in his arse cleft and lit it. When it exploded, aside from some very nasty burns, it damaged several... 'clench'-related muscles in that area, leaving him both incontinent and impotent for life.

That has made my fucking decade ... thank you so much for that :)

smoker

he didn't put the firework in the wrong way up did he?

morgs

Well, I'll come on and say my bit as a teacher.  High School, so lots of Chavs to teach. The behaviour is definitely getting worse.  Simple as that.  I'm 32 and have been teaching for 9 years.  I am lucky enough to have that 'quite cool decent bloke' aura with the kids and generally I get on well with them.

However, it is interesting to watch how attitudes in the playground etc have changed.  Much more aggressive, more gangs etc

Last night staggering home from the pub at 11.30ish (still school holiday here) me and my mates were forced into crossing over the road due to a gang of 15 or 15 kids (not from my school!) wearing Burberry caps, Adidas trainers and Nike shirts etc etc.  Average age maybe 14??  

So the question is... What the hell are they doing out at that time of night in such big crowds?

I didn't see them causing major hassle to be honest, just smoking and making obnoxious comments.  But it is groups like these which lead to a feeling of paranoia and fear, especially to the elderly.

Off the soap box now.

gazzyk1ns

I suppose it depends on where you live but don't be intimidated by 14 year-olds, the thing they play on is their numbers and intimidating group body language, isn't it... that's how and why they act like they do, they know people will be scared of them. Show them you're not scared and they have nothing - whenever I see a group of them I just walk confidently and fairly "purposefully" straight past/through them, all they'll do is stand there.