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Livejournal collapsing (and other Internet woes)

Started by 23 Daves, January 06, 2009, 02:15:23 PM

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JesusAndYourBush

Quote from: 23 Daves on January 06, 2009, 05:37:54 PM
Some record companies have been forward thinking enough to approach YouTube users and use their videos as advertising space to click through to MP3 sites, rather than penalising them.  They still appear to be in the minority, though.

I have a clip from a bbc show on youtube and got a message saying the bbc were aware of the existance of the clip, but rather than delete it they placed an ad there, which is fair enough. (Ironically when I looked, the ad linked to ebay, with people reselling stuff the bbc wouldn't earn a penny of).
I also had a clip from big brother on there and got a message saying that they'd placed ads on it, and they'd also made it so the rest of the world could view it, but not the UK.  I logged out then checked, and yes, they'd blocked me from viewing the video.  Fuck them, I deleted the video.

Quote from: eluc55 on January 10, 2009, 04:42:03 PM...
What I'm asking is this: How did they know I had used the song at least 5 minutes into the show? Does Youtube go through every video and identify songs that have been identified as "not for use", or has a lawyer done much the same thing; sieved through videos in search of stuff they can get removed?

Apparently they have software that automatically checks videos.  It's even supposed to be able to detect background music with someone talking over it, not just the music on it's own.  Presumably they have a library of music to check against and you were just unlucky enough that "Happy Together" was in it.



The best way to have a clip taken down from youtube is to label it correctly.  If you include the name of the tv station or the name of the tv show you make it easier for the tv stations to find it.  If you must name the tv station or show, write it in such a way so they won't find it with a simple search (spell it wrongly, blank out some of the letters, something like that).

chand

Quote from: JesusAndYourBush on January 11, 2009, 03:29:10 AM
If you must name the tv station or show, write it in such a way so they won't find it with a simple search (spell it wrongly, blank out some of the letters, something like that).


Doesn't that have the unwanted side-effect of making it hard for everyone else to find it as well?


chand

Hey Pedro, since you're in the mood to educate lesser mortals today, how about letting me in on whatever it was I was apparently being 'subtle' about in my almost mind-numbingly literal post about one of my livejournal friends? It's clear you have a unique, perhaps supernatural, level of insight into just about everything from the human condition to file sharing, and no doubt know me better than I know myself, so I'd be intrigued to find out what it was I actually meant when I thought I'd written an incredibly straightforward and not even remotely subtle post?

Pedro_Bear



Sorry, I was having lunch.

Are you trolling me, empiricist? You are. Nobody types wat and expects an answer.

I love you really chand

Or, you know, crossed wires and that. I must have thought you were being clever and multi-layered in respect to other posters, cuh, silly me. I'm not having a go or whatever, I just thought you were playing.
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Quote from: JesusAndYourBush on January 11, 2009, 03:29:10 AM
Apparently they have software that automatically checks videos.
Nah, automated image recognition software is used by Photobucket to phish out porn, but you have to press a button on YouTube before they'll investigate. You also have to represent the person being digitally violated.

Quotewrite it in such a way so they won't find it with a simple search

Yep. Think copyrong lawyer trying to make easy money: they'll try the tags first.


The internet is great. Every time they fuck with our fun someone clever finds a way to get around it, usually really easily. But it's only as fun as the user content, simple as that. The less space there is for people to feel comfortable being miserable on, the better, frankly. It's not like they bitch and moan for 83 pages and then come up with a practical plan of action, that would be fine, it's just this endless litany of woe, as if typing it out somehow helped anything. It really doesn't. So, you know, the demise of LJ is a blessing for the rest of us, and for the next generation of new internet users.

The internet is so much better than it was this time last year. People are just not putting up with the bores and the depressives any more. Yeah, we're going to have to circumvent the end of net neutrality somehow, but we'll do it.

It couldn't think how to introduce this video to make it appear germane, so here are the Turtles talking about getting fucked over

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5JHN5HaUg28

chand

Quote from: Pedro_Bear on January 11, 2009, 01:31:13 PM
[img width=320 height=215]I must have thought you were being clever

Rookie mistake. As our relationship blossoms you will learn the folly of this assumption.


Lfbarfe

Quote from: Pedro_Bear on January 11, 2009, 01:31:13 PM
The internet is great. Every time they fuck with our fun someone clever finds a way to get around it, usually really easily[...]Yeah, we're going to have to circumvent the end of net neutrality somehow, but we'll do it.

Yep. I think I suggested something along these lines in the 'OMG, they're killing the Internets' thread. The web is simply too big, too anarchic and too unruly to ever be policed or tamed effectively. It was designed to be bombproof. Take out one or even several nodes, there are plenty of other routes available. Governments might well try, but, outside countries that have never been big on the whole freedom of thought, assembly and expression thing, they'll always fail. Things might get a bit more difficult, but those who value the freedom of the net will just raise their game and my money's on big government getting bored first.