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Youtube and Oscillations
« on: March 09, 2009, 03:43:39 PM »
An observation about Oscillations:

I've noticed a tendency for people to get a bit lazy with the links to Youtube lately. Not just in terms of posting links and little else, but also posting links in lieu of typing the name of the track they're actually talking about. If you have little or no access to Youtube, it can make reading otherwise-interesting threads quite dull and frustrating to read.

I don't want to make an 'issues' thread out of it, in fact I've found Oscillations a lot more interesting and enjoyable of late. I just thought I'd mention it, maybe just to get some folks out of a bad habit.

Thanks whores. Thores.


Desi Rascal

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 06:54:24 PM »
 yeah i've been spamming the fuck out of the hip hop thread recently,apologies all round.

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 07:15:32 PM »
This won't a problem for much longer

How the fuck do the PRS justify asking money for promotional materials? It's in the artist's best interests to distribute videos as widely as possible.

Desi Rascal

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 07:27:32 PM »
 The PRS represent the recording industry who want to apply 20th century business models to 21st century technology. The major labels aren't really interested in shifting 50 units of something obscure a week they want your pure and undivided attention on whatever they are concentrating their marketing resources on. Bad for the individual artists but good for the Labels.

Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 09:12:55 PM »
Wasn't the PRS the reason why we don't have Pandora in the UK anymore?  They seem like a silly bunch of individuals.

The dance music thread seems to be a bad offender for youtube "spamming", link after link with no detail of artist or song.  Would rather have that information before clicking on links.

NoSleep

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 10:14:56 PM »
The PRS represent the recording industry who want to apply 20th century business models to 21st century technology. The major labels aren't really interested in shifting 50 units of something obscure a week they want your pure and undivided attention on whatever they are concentrating their marketing resources on. Bad for the individual artists but good for the Labels.

That doesn't equate to the standard practice for a cheap late-night TV show only 10 years back being packed with music videos because it cost next to nothing (as the record companies WANTED people to see their product). The PRS collect performance royalties for artists, not labels.

Desi Rascal

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 10:47:33 PM »
That doesn't equate to the standard practice for a cheap late-night TV show only 10 years back being packed with music videos because it cost next to nothing (as the record companies WANTED people to see their product). The PRS collect performance royalties for artists, not labels.

I would say that the average late night video show played what ten songs per half hour program, much easier to retain editorial control over content, archive content given clearence to co-incide with greatest hits packages, tours merchandise ect than the million or so video's available on youtube. Even allowing for specialist channels and the like the majority of content will be on a industry approved playlist with the occasional bone thrown in for varieties sake.

 As for the PRS working for the benefit of the artists rather than the label, micro payments effectively killed off Pandora outside America,they are doing the same to Youtube, in whose interest is it that obscure artists are being denied exposure?

By the way the PRS are also aiming their sights at ISPs outside america not covered by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, AOL are complaining about the unfair nature of prs charging platform.If anything the PRS are accelerating the move to a two tier web, where premium content attracts a hefty subscription fee.

http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-more-on-pandora-doing-the-math-on-quitting-uk1/


NoSleep

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 12:21:48 AM »
Depends what the definition of "premium music video" is. That could exclude obscure artists' videos. I suspect it will eliminate only the videos that are promoting major label artists. Strange.

Desi Rascal

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Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 08:42:25 PM »
After hearing both parties on the radio yesterday There seems to be a fair bit of brinkmanship going on between youtube and PRS, Youtube being a much bigger fish than Pandora with some industry backing (3 of the 4 major labels have partial authorised back catalogues online)

 If youtube does withdraw from europe as threatened, the most likely thing that would happen is likely to be increased illeagal file sharing which would be a bad thing for artists.


Of course all of this is a sideshow to the battle for the heart and soul of THE interweb that is the ever ongoing court case between Viacomm and Youtube. Whilst the Digital Millennium Copyright Act protected youtube from claims of copyright infringement, the court has ajorned to consider wether or not Viacom is entitled to statutory damages, which could open the doors to many more claiments and ultimately bankrupt youtube

Re: Youtube and Oscillations
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 12:13:47 AM »
Lily-livered bump.