Twilight - Breaking Dawn

[MuteBanana]

http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html

Holy shiate. And girls are getting off on this series of books? How fucked up are they?

[Baxter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaTq95CYqCw

...in six years, they'll be eighteen year old girls who like vampires...there is a plan, and it's working

Of course that's from a man who thinks anecdotes about having sex with weeping sores on his penis are fit for public consumption.

[ThickAndCreamy]

He's quite insightful and observant in that clip, intertwining repeating what happens in a movie with swearing is nothing but genius.

Twilight is rubbish, it's the later teenage version of The Jonas Brothers etc. Very soft sex mixed with dark / gothic visuals can make millions. In the same way that boybands can thrust hard and sing about being together forever and gain millions of adoring young fans.

It also creates the old Harry Potter dilemma, more people are reading but is this a good thing?

_{Sorry for slating someones shit observational skills then pointing out the obvious, it's a tad... hypocritical.}

[Baxter]

So, is it the very manipulation of the nascent sexuality of these young consumers that's wrong or just the light-Gothic decoration?

[ThickAndCreamy]

I just think it would be better for all of us if instead of a 12a it could become a dashing gothic themed porno, with fewer dialogue and more hot, gratuitous sex. It would take it to it's logical conclusion and appeal to men as well as females.

[Baxter]

All it takes is a little imagination, a dark cinema and some sort of disguise.

[Santa's Boyfriend]

It also creates the old Harry Potter dilemma, more people are reading but is this a good thing?

I still stand by my feeling that Harry Potter is exceptionally good children's literature, both in the fact that the sheer size and scope of the books are challenging in themselves, and the fact that they deal with issues that are complex and difficult (principally the inevitability of death, and and the unjust and unfair nature of life).  So yes, it's a good thing.  I can't possibly comment on Twilight as I've not read it and have only seen the first film, but frankly unless it's preaching a new fascism or something I can't see how it could be a bad thing.  There are far worse things out there people could be reading.

[Marty McFly]

I think there was a pretty deep discussion about Twilight in that vampires thread. I'll toss in my 2 penneth anyway..

I read the first book, not long after the film came out, purely based on morbid curiosity.. and it was awful. It wasn't so much the basic storyline that was bad, more the fact that there is absolutely no development at all of the main character, Bella, and nothing at all written about why she fell in love with Edward the emo vampire. Every single page was 'he was so handsome with his pale skin and manly arms'.. that was it. It was as if Stephenie Meyer had an unrequited crush on some bloke when she was at high school and turned it into this novel (and sequels) despite knowing nothing about the guy.. or knowing why she even had the crush in the first place.

I started reading the second book and gave up on that after about 50 pages. Read the summary of it and the sequels on Wikipedia, and that was more than enough. I was laughing very much when I read the synopsis of Breaking Dawn.

While we're bashing, though.. Stephen King on why Rowling is good but Meyer is terrible

[SavageHedgehog]

My only experience of Twilight was the first film, and it genuinely is one of the least entertaining films I've ever seen. It gave me a whole new level of appreciation for Flowers in the Attic, another film based on a popular tween girl book, which at least built up a decent gothic atmospher and had the decency to be genuinely trashy. Twilight is too dull to be trash. Bella is a completely unappealing character, when one of the boys is upset that he'll have to ask the lively, energetic cheerleader to the prom instead of her it beggers belief; it's not even believable that Bella would be a popular girl at her own school, so how she has become an internationally beloved fictional character is beyond me.

I admit though, if Breaking Dawn sticks to the book judging from this I'll have to check it out. I'd heard that the Twilight series was an abstinence allegory, but I guess judging from this the real subtext is don't have sex ever, not even for procreation. It just isn't worth it, kids.

[glitch]

I'll just leave this here

[Jemble Fred]

I'll just leave this here

Dude, she's unlikely to be on Cookdandbombd, you're clutching at straws. Still, Pantene does that to a guy.

[turnstyle]

My girlfriend loves these films/books, and I struggle to understand why.

She's only 9 though, so maybe she'll grow out of it.