Author Topic: Goodfellas vs Casino  (Read 19363 times)

Saucer51

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Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2010, 06:55:09 PM »
In the end, it's the sheer cold-bloodedness of the killings. Executing anyone, let along a friend or associate, without even a rush of anger, is unbelievable. The scene above clearly shows Tommy D smirking with relish as Morrie is being led to the car. And earlier on, when he kills Stacks and makes the "coffee to go" joke.

I'm a real fan of The Sopranos and it's so easy to imagine that men of Italian descent are inured to violence and are brought up to handle themselves very well. Every Italian male on the show after all is a tough guy.  So the scene with Artie the Chef nervously rehearsing gangster spiel in front of the mirror is almost poignant. Especially as in a live situation his French bad debtor gives him a real pasting and leaves Artie screaming in pain.

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Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2010, 07:02:39 PM »
Why do they kill Morrie by sticking a bit of metal in the back of his head? Is it just for a change?

Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2010, 07:07:50 PM »
It also seems totally believable that a person as small as Chrissy in The Sopranos can beat the shit out of people twice his height. People like him and Paulie are brought up with violence, yeah. It's great how they always seem to use whatever's lying around (a spade, a yo-yo, a service bell) to strangle or knock people out. The world around them is just open for them to use.

That Morrie scene is like a lot of Goodfellas. We're shown the wiseguys charming the shit out of someone and the next minute, without a blink of an eye, they're brutally murdering them and chopping them up.
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Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2010, 07:12:44 PM »
Possibly just the quietest, most convenient way to do it in that situation. Although the real life Tommy was definitely a psychopath (he would kill random strangers just so he could test out his latest gun). Incidentally, in real life Tommy had already been murdered when Morrie was killed, so couldn't have been involved in his killing. Morrie was actually shot and cut into several pieces in a mafia-run factory in Queens, NY by Jimmy.

The method of murder depicted in the film is actually based more on the murder of a "best friend" of Jimmy's, he was garroted in a parking lot by Jimmy and Tommy.

Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2010, 11:13:42 PM »
It also seems totally believable that a person as small as Chrissy in The Sopranos can beat the shit out of people twice his height. People like him and Paulie are brought up with violence, yeah. It's great how they always seem to use whatever's lying around (a spade, a yo-yo, a service bell) to strangle or knock people out. The world around them is just open for them to use.


From 'Wiseguy', on which 'Goodfellas is based:

'They were not the smartest kids in the neighbourhood. They were not born the richest. They weren't even the toughest. In fact, they lacked almost all the necessary talents that might have helped them satisfy the appetites of their dreams, except one - their capacity for violence. Violence was natural for them. It fueled them. Snapping a man's arm, cracking his ribs with a inch-and-a-half-diameter lead pipe, slamming his fingers in the door of a car, or casually taking his life was entirely acceptable.'

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Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2010, 12:31:27 AM »
It's been posted elsewhere, but no thread about Goodfellas and Casino is complete without this:

Harry Enfield - Badfellas

The highlight is Enfield's De Niro impression.

Glebe

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Re: Goodfellas vs Casino
« Reply #96 on: March 26, 2010, 10:52:25 PM »
Heh, yeah great clip!

Cool, I didn't know Brenda Fricker gave him the Oscar. I'm sure I saw some of that year's Oscars, but I missed that. Speaking of the real Tommy, he was actually killed by John Gotti. Hill says he later discovered that Tommy tried to sexually assualt Karen, and that he would have been "right there unloading on him" (to paraphrase) with Gotti if he had of known at the time.