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Erotic Cinema
« on: May 10, 2010, 09:12:29 PM »
...Because normal porn's not doing it for me anymore. That, or this thread could be a fascinating discussion on a genre of cinema that we rarely mention here.

Let's get the obvious ones out of the way first:
Betty Blue.
Nine Songs.
The Pornographer.
That bit in The Idiots where the learning disableds have sex with each other.

So what other films do you find to be erotic? Or think fail on every level despite what they're attempting to do? Do you think they have any real value? Or is it just an excuse for us to watch rude stuff without feeling guilty?

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 09:20:30 PM »
I've splashed out on a few erotic films in my time.

Y tu mamá también was quite good, does that count?

Nine Songs is one of the most boring films ever made. Betty Blue is good, I almost injured myself watching that when I was 13.


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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 09:24:31 PM »
Y tu mamá también was quite good, does that count?

Yes.

That bit in Very Bad Things when the stripper comes out had me squirming awkwardly in my cinema chair.

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 09:28:54 PM »
Good thread.

I'd like to know of any good erotic cinema if anyone's got any recommendations. On a similar(ish) note I bought a porn DVD a few months ago purely on the grounds that it had an award winning orgy scene advertised as being in it. I like a good orgy scene in a porn film and any scene that's deemed to be one of the best out there has to be worth a hand shandy or two. Anyway the DVD is called Pussyman 5 Captive Audience.  I fully recommend it, it really is filthy.   

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 09:33:20 PM »
Walerian Borowczyk.

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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 09:34:04 PM »
Can we discuss Lady Sonia's change of gasmask here?

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 09:45:28 PM »
Shortbus is quite funny in its upfrontness, but I generally found the film and the characters tedious when not nobbing each other. That's meant to be the difference between porn and erotica isnt it?

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 09:46:48 PM »
Any of filthy pornographer arty photographer, Roy Stuart's "Glimpse" series are worth a look for alt-porno.

http://www.roystuart.net/

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 09:55:40 PM »
Bare Lady Day is a very sexy film.

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 10:00:17 PM »
I must say that the moment in Silent Hill where Pyramid Head devests a nubile before twisting and tearing her skin off tits first gave me the RFH earlier today. I wasn't sure if I should feel bad about it so watched a clip from the second game where he's raping a couple of mannequins and the feeling subsided. Still, the thought of the first clip is now arousing all over again.

Sexuality is very complex.

I remember a BBC2 showing of 'Jamon, Jamon' providing the context for a then record-breaking eight wanks and many school chums admitting same the next day.

I ploughed through a number of arty grotflicks in China because I regularly went to the DVD shop. My favourite was probably 'Les Choses Secretes' which is staggeringly bonereal in places and daft Frog twaddle in most others.

My favourite type of porn is probably tickling porn.

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 10:01:05 PM »
That Secretary film with Jake Gylenhall's sister is pretty darn tasty

Also some French flick called Romance (I think), sometimes crops up on Film 4. Some woman, unfulfilled, goes looking for anonymous sex. It's very explicit but somehow classy, even when she has half a dozen medical students with their hands inside her clacker

It's got that Rocco dude in it, hung like a fucking shire horse

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 10:01:52 PM »
Theres anything by red shoe diaries scribe Zalman King  If you're talking  'softcore erotic bollocks'  (but doesnt one of those movies 24 channels almost exclusively churn out that now?), and Joe Eszterhas who wrote showgirls.


I've always had a soft spot for any noirs efforts like the Singing Detective remake and erotic psychoanalytic thrillers like yer Basic Instincts, Final Analysis,  Whispers in the Dark, Sliver, Consenting Adults,  Body Double,  Steakout, Colour of Night etc etc...  Although what usually cunts me off with these is they're gripping for 75 minutes and seem to always run out of steam and fall back on the same hackneyed vertigo inspired ending which never fails to come like a donkey punch to the system (there is also a film titled 'donkey punch' on that note..).

 

Theres a few 'interesting' films by french directors like Jean-Claude Brisseau and Catherine Breillat, the former is very chauvinistic and the latter tends to preffer a more philosophical dissection which is a bit 'warts n all'  and in  your face to be erotic...



Theres also the likes of italy's godfather of smut Tinto Brass, the guy who was brought in to salvage caligula - who's output is  like a cross between carry on and eurotrash.  You might have seen a few clips of his films like 'frivolous lola' if you watched that Out There programme with emily booth on channel 5.  I saw a box set of about 8 or so of his films going for next to nothing a few years back.

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Re: Erotic Cinema
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 10:04:43 PM »
Shortbus is quite funny in its upfrontness, but I generally found the film and the characters tedious when not nobbing each other. That's meant to be the difference between porn and erotica isnt it?

I was the opposite, I really loved Shortbus but found myself uninterested in the sex scenes (well, unexcited, anyhow) and by the end I barely noticed all of the shanigans that are going on in the background during the club scenes as I was far more interested in the fates of the individual characters.

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Nine Songs is one of the most boring films ever made.

Agreed, and I'm still not sure how Michael Winterbottom managed that, considering how great many of his other films are. Plus his choice of bands for the live gigs was largely very disappointing as well.

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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 10:06:36 PM »
Isn't Shortbus the one with AnCo's 'Winter's Love' as the background romp tune?

Yes, it is. I dunno how I've not seen it. Think because it sounded shits.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 10:07:53 PM »
Also some French flick called Romance (I think), sometimes crops up on Film 4.

You should see Ai No Corrida, some bloke puts an egg up a clacker!  It's dead erotic!


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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 10:08:56 PM »
Is that the one where the chick eats pubes? Put me right off.

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 10:10:07 PM »
hah. thats just reminded me of once banned jap flick 'in the realm of the senses'.  Dont go snuffling around for spoilers before you watch it.   

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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 10:11:15 PM »
Yes, that's the English name for 'Ai No Corrida' :)

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 10:12:41 PM »
Todo sobre mi madre has a scene with a giant gaping vagina, which a man climbs into. Meanwhile a sexy young lady in a coma has her breasts carressed by a man taking liberties with cleaning duties.

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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 10:13:49 PM »
No love for Emmanuelle?

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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2010, 10:20:35 PM »
No love for Emmanuelle?



Prefer the 'Confessions of...' films.

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2010, 10:23:38 PM »
I like the fact that her promiscuity was so unabound they ended up sending her to space!  (although i've never actually seen it, but its seemingly on the sci-fi channel every week going by the listings...) I do also remember at some  stage seeing a ropey species rip off on bravo called FEMALIEN.   Thats also just reminded me of little known brit sci-fi flick Lifeforce.  The glorious Mathilda May spends so much of the film walking around stark naked- you dont even notice Patrick Stewart is in the film!


I also saw one on the horror channel about somebodies snatch that was eating people...  Theres also something called Pervert! which is a homage harking back towards Russ Meyer... I've also seen Zombie Strippers. christ ive seen some shit.

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Re: Erotic Cinema
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 10:36:21 PM »
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Thats also just reminded me of little known brit sci-fi flick Lifeforce.  The glorious Mathilda May spends so much of the film walking around stark naked- you dont even notice Patrick Stewart is in the film!

Apparently the same applies with Killing Me Softly and Joseph Fiennes, I remember one review commenting that Heather Graham's breasts are on screen so much that they were 'practically a character in their own right'. I've never seen it, but the Empire review makes it sound worth seeking out:

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Killing Me Softly is the funniest movie of the year so far, but it's not a comedy. It's an erotic thriller - complete with S&M sex scenes - that features a dreadful script ('I could break your neck, I love you so much'), sniggersome love scenes, wooden performances and laughable plot twists. Anyone who mistakenly pays to see it will have a hard job stopping their tears of mirth from cascading.

Adapted from Nicci French's bestseller, it's directed by Farewell My Concubine's Chen Kaige (his English language debut, which goes some way in explaining why he didn't spot the zombie-like delivery of the dialogue). Unfortunately there aren't enough pages in a whole issue of Empire to properly describe the many hilarious moments, from Fiennes' manic-from-the-opening-credits googly-eyed turn, through awkward breast (hers) and bum (his) baring, to Alice's transformation from bun-haired mouse to tousled sex toy. A hilariously bad movie that has to be seen to be believed.

Verdict
A 'five-star-one-star film', John Waters, Russ Meyer and Ed Wood (if those last two were alive) stay awake nights praying their movies are this bad. You'd be mad to miss it.

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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 10:52:49 PM »
Preaching to the Perverted. Gloriously shit.

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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 10:57:04 PM »
Choses secretes was quite enjoyable and the dark haired one with the eyes in that, hubba hubba!

There's a rude French film called Les anges exterminateurs that's got some very good hot sweaty, but thoroughly arty, lezzy action in it. I recommend that one.

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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 11:00:56 PM »
Salo.

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2010, 11:05:02 PM »
I remember watching that with my old girlfriend (she of the 'Shagging Your Ex' thread, hate-fans) after she'd picked it up at the DVD shop for some reason. About half an hour in, we decided we had to finish it but we also needed to be absolutely wrecked to do so. We polished off a bottle of Jaeger in about ten minutes and then started on the wine. By the end, we were seriously depressed. And yet, despite all of this, we ended up having the wildest night of our relationship afterwards.

Sexuality is complex.

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Re: Erotic Cinema
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2010, 11:10:38 PM »
I remember watching that with my old girlfriend (she of the 'Shagging Your Ex' thread, hate-fans) after she'd picked it up at the DVD shop for some reason. About half an hour in, we decided we had to finish it but we also needed to be absolutely wrecked to do so. We polished off a bottle of Jaeger in about ten minutes and then started on the wine. By the end, we were seriously depressed. And yet, despite all of this, we ended up having the wildest night of our relationship afterwards.

Sexuality is complex.
I had a similar experience watching the DVD box set of Duty Free.

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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2010, 11:56:39 PM »


Alfie Bass as Kelly
Irene Handl as Lady Bovington
Ronald Fraser as Slasher
Tommy Godfrey as Blitt
Cardew Robinson as McIvar
Rita Webb as Rita
Queenie Watts as Cafe Girl
Talfryn Thomas as Nosegay
Bob Todd as Vicar
Henry McGee as Deputy Prime Minister

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Play_With_Me

If there was ever a 'blue movie' made for this forum, then this was it.

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Re: Erotic Cinema
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2010, 12:46:40 AM »


Alfie Bass as Kelly
Irene Handl as Lady Bovington
Ronald Fraser as Slasher
Tommy Godfrey as Blitt
Cardew Robinson as McIvar
Rita Webb as Rita
Queenie Watts as Cafe Girl
Talfryn Thomas as Nosegay
Bob Todd as Vicar
Henry McGee as Deputy Prime Minister

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Play_With_Me

If there was ever a 'blue movie' made for this forum, then this was it.

A few years ago, I found a 'magazine' in the attic from the time this was released, with a 'spread' of Mary Millington  in the middle. It also had nude pictures of a rather ugly and hairy woman from On The Buses.