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Toy Story 3 [split topic]
« on: July 19, 2010, 03:26:56 PM »
Anyone else see Toy Story 3 today? Just seen it and thought it was excellent, much better than the second but maybe not as good as the first.

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 02:16:23 AM »
I saw the new Toy Story today at London's IMAX. First of all, I've seen a few movies there, most recently Avatar, but they're currently showing a pre-trailers 'Imax Experience' presentation (showing you the speakers behind the screen, then doing a countdown from ten on screen) which is really great - the 3D countdown is the most immersive thing I've ever seen.

Anyway, the movie itself was as sublime as you can hope to see from Pixar. I've yet to decide whether it's the best movie they've done. There are certainly more emotional and transcendent moments in some of their other movies, but the opening was fantastic  (I guess they felt they had to raise the bar even further from the incredible opening to TS2) and the animation throughout (particularly at the beginning and [spoiler]when they're about to be burnt alive[/spoiler] is the best animation they've come up with yet - really jaw-dropping stuff. Nearly all the new toys were an absolute delight and the moment when [spoiler]the clown is reminiscing about how he knew Lotso[/spoiler] and [spoiler]the baby doing an exorcist style 180 degree head spin while on the swing in the moonlight[/spoiler] were hysterically funny.

Such is the talent and sophistication of Pixar's storytelling, TS3 isn't a "kid's movie for adults" in the sense that there's lots of little cheeky asides that the kids won't get but the adults pick up on; it's the story itself that is so engaging and engrossing that it's it grabs all age groups and connects on their particular level. That's an art, but Pixar make it look effortless. I did struggle to hold myself together at the end , although I could see where it was going so it wasn't a surprise like [spoiler]Ellie dying[/spoiler] at the beginning of Up.

Ken was superb, Spanish Buzz was inspired, Tortilla-Head was brilliant and the whole thing was just about perfect. 

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 06:45:57 PM »
I couldn't stand the first two films...  So overhyped, and absolutely nothing in there to entertain an adult despite all the talk about them being family films.

I was dragged to the third one against my will.  In 3D, no less, meaning it cost more than I spend on porn each month.

And then, to add insult to injury, it turned out to be a bloody amazing film, and made me cry.

So I hate it.  Stupid thing.  No-one else go see it.

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 06:58:17 PM »
Spanish Buzz was inspired
By Shrek 2's Puss In Boots?

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Re: Toy Story 3 [split topic]
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 07:03:11 PM »
By Shrek 2's Puss In Boots?

Other than a certain Iberian insouciance, I wouldn't have said so, no.

I couldn't stand the first two films...  So overhyped, and absolutely nothing in there to entertain an adult despite all the talk about them being family films.

The qualities you seem to admire in the new one are there in spades in the first two as well.

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 07:06:58 PM »
I knew it couldn't really happen, but when they were about to get burnt alive, I really wanted the film to end there and then, just to fuck a load of kids up mentally.

I also got a speck of fluff in my eye right at the moment Bonnie made Woody say goodbye to Andy, which was a bit annoying because it made me look a bit girly.

Awesome film though, I really want to see it again.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 07:17:53 PM »
I couldn't stand the first two films...  So overhyped, and absolutely nothing in there to entertain an adult despite all the talk about them being family films.

I was dragged to the third one against my will.  In 3D, no less, meaning it cost more than I spend on porn each month.

And then, to add insult to injury, it turned out to be a bloody amazing film, and made me cry.

So I hate it.  Stupid thing.  No-one else go see it.

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Re: Toy Story 3 [split topic]
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 07:40:44 PM »
I just found out today on Wikipedia that the rubbishman who keeps drumming on the bins in Toy Story 3 is actually the sadistic kid Sid who tortures toys the first film grown up!

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 08:03:52 PM »
I knew it couldn't really happen, but when they were about to get burnt alive, I really wanted the film to end there and then, just to fuck a load of kids up mentally.

Me too. When the aliens got crushed I thought they were going to start killing the characters off one by one.

Day & Night was really good fun too. Very inventive use of 3D.

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 08:09:17 PM »
I just watched the first Toy Story again for the first time in ages and it really is fucking magic. Well done to Pixar for making a perfect trilogy. I think it's about time I watched Monsters Inc, Wall E and Up. Never seen any of them. Is A Bug's Life good? Heard Cars isn't great.

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Re: Toy Story 3 [split topic]
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2010, 08:18:13 PM »
Recent Pixar thread this was split from: http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,23388.0.html

A Bug's Life is the only one I've yet to see after my recent Pixar splurge. I thought Cars was alright actually. Strikingly different style, and maybe not the most involving of their stories, but still full of invention and some nice moments.

Good to hear I wasn't the only one relieving my eyes of some excess fluid at the end of TS3.

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »
The qualities you seem to admire in the new one are there in spades in the first two as well.

Nope.

Also in the third one Andy is just seventeen, you know what I mean?  I'm not some kind of CGi paedophile am I.  No.

(am I..?!)

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2010, 09:39:31 PM »
In response to the above I would like to add that I can never, ever, EVER go back and watch E.T..  Never.  Ever.

Not after the things I've thought and done when watching Henry Thomas aged 19 walking around sodden in white pants in Psycho 4.

Wrong wrong wrong.

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2010, 10:04:19 PM »
Nope.

Well, as mentioned in the other thread, if I were to make any criticism of TSIII at all, then it would be that it's slightly too similar to the second one.  A lot of the story beats are quite similar, the opening's a variation on the same theme, the villains aren't too distinct in their motives, the Buzz-as-inflexible-Space-Ranger plot device gets another showing, etc.

So - yup.

Unless the only reason you like the 3rd film is you have the hots for a collection of rendered pixels.

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 09:59:29 AM »
Also in the third one Andy is just seventeen, you know what I mean?  I'm not some kind of CGi paedophile am I.  No.

(am I..?!)

Depends what State he's in.

(Probably a pretty horrible state when he's through with him, eh readers?)

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2010, 07:34:52 PM »
Well, as mentioned in the other thread, if I were to make any criticism of TSIII at all, then it would be that it's slightly too similar to the second one. 

Jessie's song in the second one is basically the grand theme of the third in one heartbreaking little segment. I still loved Toy Story 3 though. The incinerator bit is just an astonishing scene, probably something that'll be talked about for years.

Dark Sky, you should definitely go back and watch the first two. I can't believe if you loved the third you wouldn't retrospectively love the second. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2010, 09:18:07 PM »
I gave this 7/10 - not as good as the first two, particularly not Toy Story 2.
I thought it started well, but became  needlessly complicated halfway through - liked the toys at Bonnie's house, but they seemed to be from a different film.
Oddly the film seemed to avoid the emotionally-satisfying narrative it was aiming for - ie the toys get put in the attic and are claimed years later by Andy's own kids.

The actual ending felt like  a bit of a cop out to me.

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Re: Toy Story 3 [split topic]
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2010, 12:10:07 AM »
The incinerator bit is just an astonishing scene, probably something that'll be talked about for years.

Yeah, it was beautifully realised, I knew they'd be saved somehow, but yet at the same time it tricked me in to thinking that it could well be the end for Woody and co. But as Weekender mentioned above, that would have traumatised millions and Pixar would never do that.

I really loved the film, and sat their with a big grin on my face throughout, but I did think it was going to be a bit funnier. Loads of things made me smile, but I only laughed out loud about, at a guess, 10 times. That said I was enthralled throughout, and it's a very minor complaint.

I was with my godchildren, and the four year old boy was sat on the edge of his seat the whole time, whereas the five year old girl enjoyed it well enough but complained about the lack of jokes, and couldn't understand why me and her Dad were getting all teary during the end part. Still, that's children for you, and what the hell do they know about classic cinema!

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 01:48:55 PM »
Unless the only reason you like the 3rd film is you have the hots for a collection of rendered pixels.

Wasn't the ONLY reason, no.

As for story beats...  Silver Nemesis has the exact same plot as Remembrance of the Daleks, but that doesn't stop one of them being awful and the other being fantastic.  Similarity of story doesn't indicate similarity of quality of execution, at all.  Plus any story in any medium is much more than just a sum of what dramatically happens.

Maybe I should rewatch the other two Toy Storys.  As I have very low expectations I may enjoy them more.

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Re: Toy Story 3 [split topic]
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2010, 02:52:37 PM »
As for story beats...  Silver Nemesis has the exact same plot as Remembrance of the Daleks, but that doesn't stop one of them being awful and the other being fantastic.  Similarity of story doesn't indicate similarity of quality of execution, at all.  Plus any story in any medium is much more than just a sum of what dramatically happens.

Very true, but they're thematically of a piece as well.  TSIII makes explicit a lot of what's hinted at in II, but the dramatic motor of both films is essentially the same.  Jessie's vignette in the second movie foreshadows the entire plot of the threequel.

Quality of execution, I'll grant you, is entirely subjective and your mileage may vary.  I think all three are wonderful films - the only place for me where TS II falters is when you're rudely dragged out of the movie by Andi Peters.

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2010, 04:03:05 PM »
Just got back from it, not hugely funny and god it was manipulative, but it worked. I never enjoyed jessies song in Toy Story 2 but then I was 12 at the time and I was way too cool and cynical to feel emotions or anything like that. I'd probably feel differently now. But I'm not so sure I still might find the song quite jarring, any time there's a song with lyrics it takes me out of the experince more.

Night and Day was beautiful as well.