Author Topic: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]  (Read 123520 times)

Ambient Sheep

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1020 on: July 22, 2019, 08:59:06 PM »
The less/fewer and hanged... I mean, I know the difference, and agree there's right and wrong (although it's 'hung, drawn and quartered,' for some reason).

Just a guess, is it because the hanging isn't completed before they're cut down?

Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1021 on: July 22, 2019, 10:33:20 PM »
it's 'hung, drawn and quartered,' for some reason

Just a guess, is it because the hanging isn't completed before they're cut down?

my understanding of this deliberate distinction between 'hung' & 'hanged' when it's being done to a wrong 'un, is that in the former case, the hanging-up is part of a much longer & publicly humiliating process of being done away with, & death is probably not going to occur as a direct result of the hanging-up part- it's for display purposes. whereas the latter- they deliberately put the rope around your neck & drop you so that you're dead fairly briskly, at least that's the general idea. the exact opposite of the HDQ approach, which (I gather) could go on for hours or days sometimes.

there. some believable but totally un-wiki original research that I could probably find citations for but I genuinely can't be arsed any more.

kalowski

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1022 on: July 23, 2019, 08:02:38 AM »
Hanged was probably the old old inflection (once upon a time people said "sanged" instead of "sung" too). There's a theory that hanged continued when language shifted to hung because judges relied on old, formal language for sentences.
If this is true, perhaps the sentence of H,D&Q was a relatively new one.

hillbillyholiday

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1023 on: July 23, 2019, 01:17:34 PM »
It is hanged, drawn and quartered!


It is now



and it was then

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"That you be led to the place from whence you came, and from thence be drawn upon a hurdle to the place of execution, and then you shall be hanged by the neck and, being alive, shall be cut down, and your privy members to be cut off, and your entrails be taken out of your body and, you living, the same to be burnt before your eyes, and your head to be cut off, your body to be divided into four quarters, and head and quarters to be disposed of at the pleasure of the King's majesty"


Pictures are hung, men are hang'd.
It's just one of those weird things you get in English, like never seeing crannies without accompanying nooks.

kalowski

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1024 on: July 23, 2019, 03:10:29 PM »
"That you be led to the place from whence you came, and from thence be drawn upon a hurdle to the place of execution, and then you shall be hanged by the neck and, being alive, shall be cut down, and your privy members to be cut off, and your entrails be taken out of your body and, you living, the same to be burnt before your eyes, and your head to be cut off, your body to be divided into four quarters, and head and quarters to be disposed of at the pleasure of the King's majesty"
I've had worse.

hillbillyholiday

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1025 on: July 23, 2019, 03:15:57 PM »

Pictures are hung, men are hang'd.

I should clarify, hanged typically applies to necks, hung for willies.
Although if you were unfortuate enough to be suspended by your willy 'til death, that would be hanged.

Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1026 on: July 23, 2019, 07:14:26 PM »
Simple, but effective:


Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1027 on: July 23, 2019, 09:40:29 PM »
It is hanged, drawn and quartered!


oh. cheers!

hillbillyholiday

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1028 on: July 23, 2019, 10:50:30 PM »
oh. cheers!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/hung-or-hanged

Vaguely diverting article if you're interested

I wish the OED had put their content online in the late nineties and tried to monetize it later.
They too were originally crowdsourced (their most prolific volunteer was W.C. Minor, an inmate of Broadmoor who chopped his own penis off), but it had the advantage of being edited by experts.

Wiktionary and Wikipedia have to some extent filled the gap, despite the WP:NOTDIC dogma...

Sorry to wander off topic.  Here's my old userpage if they haven't already deleted it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hillbillyholiday#FREE_GIRAFFE

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1029 on: July 23, 2019, 11:17:13 PM »
Sorry to wander off topic.  Here's my old userpage if they haven't already deleted it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hillbillyholiday#FREE_GIRAFFE


"I'm glad that the stereotype of Wiki editors as pompous, sanctimonious, power-drunk jobsworth arseholes actively blocking having entries improved and corrected if the requisite forms haven't been filled out in triplicate in exactly the right shade of blue ink between 2.16pm and 2.23pm on a Tuesday has turned out to be a myth."

I hear ya.  also- is that zabriskie point or thereabouts in that pic?

our back catalogue crazily-priced by the river people:


Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1030 on: July 23, 2019, 11:18:28 PM »
I wish the OED had put their content online in the late nineties and tried to monetize it later.
They too were originally crowdsourced (their most prolific volunteer was W.C. Minor, an inmate of Broadmoor who chopped his own penis off), but it had the advantage of being edited by experts.

If you're in the UK and have a library card, the odds are you can access OED.com for free via your library's subscription. The website actually went live in (I think) 2000, and was a major project in its own right - but not as major as the ongoing revision of the text, which began in the 1990s and is now at around the 50% mark.

In this instance, OED's entry for HANG v. hasn't yet been revised, so the text is pretty much the same as what was published in 1898. At the relevant sense, there's a note which reads 'In this sense, hanged is now the specific form of the past tense and past participle; though hung is used by some, esp. in the south of England.' The distinction between the two doesn't seem to have been quite as rigid then as it is now.

hillbillyholiday

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1031 on: July 23, 2019, 11:31:33 PM »
"I'm glad that the stereotype of Wiki editors as pompous, sanctimonious, power-drunk jobsworth arseholes actively blocking having entries improved and corrected if the requisite forms haven't been filled out in triplicate in exactly the right shade of blue ink between 2.16pm and 2.23pm on a Tuesday has turned out to be a myth."

That was Stu Campbell of Wings/Amiga Power fame.
He got blocked after trying to get his biography deleted because someone kept redirecting it to an article about a child murderer.

His unblock request was rather more succint than mine: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:174.120.248.18&oldid=369490689

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is that zabriskie point or thereabouts in that pic?
This one?



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The Hidden Valley (bottom left), in the Southern Negev, in the background the Jordan Valley and Jordania. The red sign marks the hiking trail.

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« Reply #1032 on: July 23, 2019, 11:57:39 PM »
His unblock request was rather more succint than mine[/url]

nice. yes, that pic.... completely different place, then.... same colours, same sort of landscape, makes me wish I could fly through it, & eat mice & whatever else big birds find to eat in the desert.

purlieu

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1033 on: July 24, 2019, 12:16:03 PM »


I love the inverted commas around adult.

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« Reply #1034 on: July 29, 2019, 05:01:18 AM »
Looked up The Truth About Cats & Dogs on Wikipedia after Ballad Berkley mentioned it in another thread.

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The Truth About Cats & Dogs is a 1996 American romantic comedy film directed by Michael Lehmann, starring Janeane Garofalo, Uma Thurman, Ben Chaplin and Jamie Foxx, and written by Audrey Wells. The original music score was composed by Howard Shore. The film is a romantic comedy where two women date the same man, resulting in large explosions in their friendship.

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Jerzy Bondov

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1035 on: July 31, 2019, 12:35:14 PM »
Was just reading about Janeway off of Star Trek Voyager:
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In 2018, The Gamer ranked Janeway as one of the top fifteen starship captains of the Star Trek franchise.[26]
Not bad

kalowski

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1036 on: August 13, 2019, 09:53:44 PM »
Did you know there was a sequel to The Jerk?

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The Jerk, Too was produced, but not written, by Steve Martin.

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1037 on: August 14, 2019, 03:38:50 PM »
Did you know there was a sequel to The Jerk?

I have it on DVD (as a a cheapo Double Bill with the first film). I'm terrified to watch it.

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1038 on: August 14, 2019, 03:48:33 PM »
The whole film's on youtube. Fucking hell (just watched the titles and five seconds of the film).

kalowski

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Re: Amusing Wikipedia Stuff [split topic]
« Reply #1039 on: August 14, 2019, 04:18:16 PM »
The whole film's on youtube. Fucking hell (just watched the titles and five seconds of the film).
Jesus. So did I...