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The worst film ever made. With Rik Mayall.

Started by Jake Thingray, September 03, 2010, 08:25:06 PM

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Jake Thingray

This long, in-depth review of a recent load of old rubbish may well be more entertaining than the thing itself.

http://www.mjsimpson.co.uk/reviews/justfortherecorda.html

And, what the hell has gone wrong with Mayall's career? Genuinely, I once adored him.

biggytitbo

Rik mayall appears to have spent at least the last decade appearing in nothing but British films so bad they are never released. It's like he wants to sink into obscurity.

Phil_A

Blimey, and I thought he hit an all time low with "Bring Me The Head Of Mavis Davis."

SavageHedgehog

By now that one's probably in the upper half of his filmography

Jake Thingray

Many years ago, Mayall and Rowan Atkinson were my equal favourite comedy performers -- today, I'd be happy never to see Atkinson ever again, and Mayall never seems to appear in anything anyway. Still think it's a sad waste in Mayall's case.

I'm not friends with MJ Simpson or anything, haven't even met him, but both parts of that article are a hugely enjoyable illustration of pisspoorness. Also see the interview with the producer prat Jonathan Sothcott, a bigheaded Tory Boy who idolises Roger Moore, I've been reliably informed that the elderly eyebrow-raiser himself thinks him a fool.

mini goatbix

Quote from: biggytitbo on September 03, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
Rik mayall appears to have spent at least the last decade appearing in nothing but British films so bad they are never released. It's like he wants to sink into obscurity.
I'd guess for the last twelve years or so, Mayall has been recovering from a serious brain injury and so not fully throwing himself into work - doing performances that don't take too much thought or effort.

MALCOLM

I caught Mayall on some obscure channel the other week introducing some programme about Broken Britain, I got as far as the end of his Daily Mail-esque introduction about the streets crawling with hoodies and thuggery and had to bail.

I think some of it was being delivered ironically, but I still wept.

Jemble Fred

Never mind, I reckon this could make up for it.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1351631/

For me, anyway.

Isn't he presenting some cable channel history show at the moment?

He does undoubtedly deserve better than 80% of his recent jobs, even if his TV cameos are usually a treat. I suppose you could say the same of latter day Peter Cook too, and Peter Sellers was in more shite films than good ones.

I suppose great comics' careers are a bit like glitter on a Christmas card – once they're dead and gone, you blow away the crap and the brilliant work is what sticks in the memory. It would be nice just to have a bit more pritt stick in evidence before he does shuffle off.

Funcrusher

MJ Simpson used to have a whole site devoted to a guy called Richard Driscoll, a kind of modern day British Edward D Wood type, who has made a number of totally inept straight to DVD turkeys. Alas it seems that Driscoll has got the lawyers in, as it's disappeared. Rik Mayall is one of the various faded stars and z-listers that Driscoll seems to manage to persuade to appear in his reportedly awful films:

http://www.houseoffear.co.uk/films.html

Jemble Fred

Quote from: Funcrusher on September 04, 2010, 10:33:42 AM
http://www.houseoffear.co.uk/films.html

QuoteSTARRING: Daryl Hannah, Michael Madsen, Steve Guttenberg, Jeff Fahey, Patrick Bergin, Brigitte Neilson, Rik Mayall, Bill Moseley, Oliver Tobias, Robert Llewellyn, Sylvester McCoy, Robin Askwith, Caroline Munro, Buster Bloodvessel and David Carradine in his last film.

Has to be seen, then...

I'm afraid I couldn't get more than halfway through that first part of Simpson's review, it was like ants crawling on my eyeballs.

Mister Six

Wasn't there some controversy about MJ Simson a while back? By which I mean about 10 years ago. I recall him getting into an argument with someone - or some people - online. Possibly to do with Doctor Who.

Funcrusher

I think there was a big spat around his criticisms of the Hitchhiker's Guide film. He's definitely flounced off at least one mesage board to my knowledge.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Jemble Fred on September 04, 2010, 10:15:44 AM
Never mind, I reckon this could make up for it.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1351631/



I read that Sheridan Le Fanu story some time ago...above calibre vampire short story. But Jennifer Ellison!?

Santa's Boyfriend

He apparently played Peeves the poltergeist in the first Harry Potter film, but got cut because he wouldn't stop making the kids laugh on set, meaning his scenes took a long time to shoot.

amputeeporn

Quote from: mini goatbix on September 04, 2010, 09:05:04 AM
I'd guess for the last twelve years or so, Mayall has been recovering from a serious brain injury and so not fully throwing himself into work - doing performances that don't take too much thought or effort.

I once heard from a fella who knows ade edmonson that he's found him impossible to work with/be around ever since said accident. He's clearly never been the same.

Jake Thingray

Quote from: Funcrusher on September 04, 2010, 11:06:19 AM
I think there was a big spat around his criticisms of the Hitchhiker's Guide film. He's definitely flounced off at least one mesage board to my knowledge.

Trouble is, people who flounce off message boards can sometimes be very knowledgeable and informative. Regarding this silly sod Driscoll, yes Simpson's stuff about his unreleasable nonsense was v. good, the trouble with these sorts of crap films is that they're more interesting to read about than actually watch. The nearly dead Norman Wisdom was in at least one of Driscoll's.

Afraid to say, once Mayall snuffs it, it may prove hard to say why he was so rated in his time, those who like to say THE YOUNG ONES is dated now will no doubt have their say. Those of us who thought Mayall was great may be in the same position as old geezers in pubs today who mutter nostalgically about Charlie Drake and Arthur Haynes.

Going back to the film itself, how Danny Dyer continues to get work is a mystery.

Pepotamo1985

Quote from: amputeeporn on September 04, 2010, 05:27:45 PM
He's clearly never been the same.

Indeed, he seems to have transmogrified into some kind of angry right wing nutter. Now that I think of it, he came out with some outrageous bilge to the effect that Bottom hadn't been recomissioned for a fourth season because of some conspiracy against white, heterosexual men at the BBC where he sounded like a tin foil hatted, political correctness gone mad Daily Mail columnist tosser; http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/225979/Rik-Mayalls-fury-at-BBC.html

Of course, it never occured to him that it was probably really, really, really shit. Although, he was absolutely superb in that Jonathan Creek special he appeared in, The Black Canary or somesuch other nonsense, which was his first acting do after the accident.

My dad was involved in a motorcycle accident and came back fighting fit despite initial protestations from doctors that we might as well pull the plug because, even if he did survive, he'd just be a vegetable. But anyway, despite surviving, he definitely changed for the worse mentally and even now he's gotten his head together he's occasionally prone to being confused and irate for no particular reason, and often exhibits an autistic disregard or indeed ignorance of basic social norms. I daresay the formerly great Mr. Mayall suffers in a similar fashion. Poor guy.

Santa's Boyfriend

Quote from: Pepotamo1985 on September 04, 2010, 10:28:05 PM
My dad was involved in a motorcycle accident and came back fighting fit despite initial protestations from doctors that we might as well pull the plug because, even if he did survive, he'd just be a vegetable. But anyway, despite surviving, he definitely changed for the worse mentally and even now he's gotten his head together he's occasionally prone to being confused and irate for no particular reason, and often exhibits an autistic disregard or indeed ignorance of basic social norms. I daresay the formerly great Mr. Mayall suffers in a similar fashion. Poor guy.

I still don't see what's wrong with wanking in public.  I mean, we all do it.

SavageHedgehog

Quote from: Pepotamo1985 on September 04, 2010, 10:28:05 PM
Now that I think of it, he came out with some outrageous bilge to the effect that Bottom hadn't been recomissioned for a fourth season because of some conspiracy against white, heterosexual men at the BBC where he sounded like a tin foil hatted, political correctness gone mad Daily Mail columnist tosser; http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/225979/Rik-Mayalls-fury-at-BBC.html

Then again around the same time he made some comment where he said that he's "always thought it was a shame that British comedy was dominated by white, able-bodied men" so maybe he was just fucking about. Or maybe he's genuinely insane.

Quote from: Pepotamo1985 on September 04, 2010, 10:28:05 PM
Indeed, he seems to have transmogrified into some kind of angry right wing nutter. Now that I think of it, he came out with some outrageous bilge to the effect that Bottom hadn't been recomissioned for a fourth season because of some conspiracy against white, heterosexual men at the BBC where he sounded like a tin foil hatted, political correctness gone mad Daily Mail columnist tosser; http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/225979/Rik-Mayalls-fury-at-BBC.html

Reading that, it comes across as so over the top that I do find myself wondering if he was just joking.  Although admittedly that may just be me indulging in wishful thinking.

Jemble Fred

So his eldest daughter's 23. Imagine starting to go out with someone and they tell you that their Dad is Rik Mayall, you wouldn't know whether to whoop or collapse with terror.

Santa's Boyfriend

Ade Edmonson's kids are the same age roughly, and one of them is in a folk band, which apparently led to them both playing at the same festival.

Actually that's not that interesting really...

I don't know about worst film, but that review was damn near torture to read. MJ's failed attempts at humour while describing someone else's failed attempts at humour are too tedious to even be ironic.

variant

Has anyone seen 'Oh Marbella!'? I picked it up in Tescos for a quid on the off-chance it might be a hidden gem. It stars Rik alongside Mike Reid. I think it might be rubbish and I'm a bit scared to watch it to be honest.


EDIT: Just tried to read that review - it's impossible. Anyone made it through?

QDRPHNC

I used to adore Rik Mayall as well. I think he's just one of these guys who were remarkably of-their-time and zeitgeisty, but failed to either move with the times or grow up along with their core audience.

Santa's Boyfriend

I still wish they'd been allowed to do another series of Bottom.

Jemble Fred

Quote from: amputeeporn on September 04, 2010, 05:27:45 PM
I once heard from a fella who knows ade edmonson that he's found him impossible to work with/be around ever since said accident. He's clearly never been the same.

The problem with that is that every time I've heard Edmondson talk about comedy and his career in the last decade or so he's com across as a complete tosser, rubbishing his legacy while gearing up for some shameful Celeb TV Show – whereas Rik's interviews of recent years have remained a joy. Packed with the same old ego jokes of course, but he comes across well in my opinion. If anything, it feels like Rik has tried to remain true to his comedy, whereas Ade's had that pink light that Alexei Sayle talked about emerge from his ear, and lost it.

CaledonianGonzo

Quote from: Jake Thingray on September 04, 2010, 08:53:11 PM
Afraid to say, once Mayall snuffs it, it may prove hard to say why he was so rated in his time, those who like to say THE YOUNG ONES is dated now will no doubt have their say. Those of us who thought Mayall was great may be in the same position as old geezers in pubs today who mutter nostalgically about Charlie Drake and Arthur Haynes.

Not if you show any sceptics either of his appearances as Lord Flashheart.  UK Gold showed Bells last night and it remains proof of what a sterling talent he once was.

Famous Mortimer

Quote from: Jemble Fred on September 10, 2010, 09:10:16 AM
whereas Ade's had that pink light that Alexei Sayle talked about emerge from his ear, and lost it.
And if there's a person who knows about entirely ceasing to be even remotely funny...

Marvin

Quote from: Jemble Fred on September 10, 2010, 09:10:16 AM
The problem with that is that every time I've heard Edmondson talk about comedy and his career in the last decade or so he's com across as a complete tosser, rubbishing his legacy while gearing up for some shameful Celeb TV Show

That's nonsense though, he's done Hell's Kitchen and that's it surely? I think he comes accross very well in interviews and very likable. I think a lot of the 'rubbishing of his legacy' is self-deprecation misconstrued, certainly it's only ever come accross that way in print and is very different in radio etc. He clearly wants to make a go of his music and that's fair enough, The Bad Shephards were fantastic when I saw them earlier in the year.