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Movies and your personal therories when you watch them.

Started by Dead kate moss, October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM

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Dead kate moss

Casablanca - It's doesn't end with Rick's Noble Sacrifice - he's been getting revenge on her the whole time by making her fall in love with him again, just so he can dump her and make her get on the plane with someone she no longer loves, and suffer like he did when she left him...

Star Wars -R2-D2 is the only one with a plan. He is engineers almost all important meetings and victories. It's because the rebels treat droids as equals, the Empire as slaves. Also possibly a Jedi.

Risky Business - It was no accident that Rebecca DeMornay knocks the Porsche into gear so it ends up in Lake Michigan.

Star Wars Again - The Emperor is Vader's dad.

The Thing - at the end, two survivors... Kurt Russell looks very cold and beat up, his breath turns to frost... the other guy seems much healthier.... Is The Thing really dead?

2001 - it's supposed to be really boring. hahaha.


Small Man Big Horse

Every character Kyle Maclachlan has played since Twin Peaks is Agent Cooper, possessed by Bob. Especially in Showgirls.

Ambient Sheep

Quote from: Dead kate moss on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PMStar Wars -R2-D2 is the only one with a plan. He is engineers almost all important meetings and victories. It's because the rebels treat droids as equals, the Empire as slaves. Also possibly a Jedi.

I've seen something similar posited before, and I rather like it, myself.


Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on October 24, 2010, 01:53:22 PMEvery character Kyle Maclachlan has played since Twin Peaks is Agent Cooper, possessed by Bob. Especially in Showgirls.

I like the sound of that, but having seen neither Showgirls, or in fact any film he's been in post-Twin Peaks except The Flintstones(!) and Me Without You (where he certainly does play a shit), I can't really comment too much on it!

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Most Kevin Spacey and John Travolta's films are improved by watching them as if the central character isn't from a story but is the actor themselves doing and experiencing things in real life. Because of Spacey's occasionally irritating self-awareness and quite limited range, this is incredibly easy to do, and enhances his films like a sort of thought-experiment pair of 3d glasses.

Icehaven

In the Sixth Sense the whole world is dead except Bruce Willis who has gone insane.

Santa's Boyfriend


Dead kate moss

Quote from: Santa's Boyfriend on October 24, 2010, 06:11:21 PM
I thought that was all but explicitly stated?

Well it's not explicitly stated. You always thought it was obvious? Anyone else?

Phil_A

Quote from: Dead kate moss on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
The Thing - at the end, two survivors... Kurt Russell looks very cold and beat up, his breath turns to frost... the other guy seems much healthier.... Is The Thing really dead?

I thought that was the whole point of that ending, the uncertainty as to whether the creature has survived in Russell or the other guy.


Pedro_Bear

Warren Beatty's character is a nutjob going round killing people and blowing stuff up in The Parallax View.

There are never any independent witnesses to his murder sprees, or claims of self-defence. The explosion he "prevents" doesn't actually occur, we never see anything explode. The sinister organisiation is all completely and utterly in his head. Which I appreciate is what they'd want us to think, but weighing up Beaty's actions we actually witness, the guy has just fucking lost it.

Ginyard

Quote from: Dead kate moss on October 24, 2010, 06:46:03 PM
Well it's not explicitly stated. You always thought it was obvious? Anyone else?

Not really. I find it hard believing that Palpatine force-flew some spunk through the Tatooine night and straight up Shmi's fanacka. As far as his midichlorian alc/vol count goes, Anakin's 100% isn't he? So unless Palps had been bum sexing the midichlorians then it seems to suggest that Anakin's more a consequence of IVF sorcery than bonking. Maybe he milked a dozing barman then went to work in his evil bastard lab. Maybe he wingardium spermiosa'd it all into her womb after some choice chanting. Whatever the method, the result remains the same; being riddled with midichlorians makes you an utter wanker.

Dead kate moss

I choose to ignore anything in the prequels. Darth Vader was never that whiney brat thankyou.

Pedro_Bear

Qui-Gon Jinn is a Sith. He delights in making things uncomfortable, convoluted and difficult for the groups he is charged with helping, before cheating his way to glory by abusing The Force.

For example: he single-handedly makes the simple act of swapping a barely-damaged yet very expensive ship for a less-showy, working one into an ordeal for everyone unlucky enough to get into his line of sight, smirking as he does so. His sociopathic power-trip involves gambling with the freedom and then the life of a child for his own twisted amusement.

Dead kate moss


Jemble Fred

Anthony Newley was the real father of all the Garbage Pail Kids, and regularly had sex with them.

Mary is not amused

Das Boot: quite difficult to wank to; German porn ain't all it's cracked up to be.

neveragain

Frozen - Parker is actually a lesbian but, after her travails/the credits, finds God and renounces her wicked ways.

The Magdalene Sisters - They were asking for it, and after those three girls have escaped.. it's a sad ending.

Barberism

Quote from: Santa's Boyfriend on October 24, 2010, 06:11:21 PM
I thought that was all but explicitly stated?

It was hinted that it was Darth Plagueis. A dude who was never mentioned before or again in the saga.

kidsick5000

Kick-Ass died in the chair next to Big Daddy.
The amazing rescue was a Brazil style dream

Santa's Boyfriend

Quote from: Ginyard on October 24, 2010, 10:16:31 PM
Not really. I find it hard believing that Palpatine force-flew some spunk through the Tatooine night and straight up Shmi's fanacka.

Well yes, although that would have been an interesting deleted scene! 

In the first movie Anakin's mother states that there was no father.  Quai Gon speculates that Anakin was conceived by the meticloriants themselves, due to his high count.

In the third film, Palpatine tells Anakin the story of the old sith lord, hinting that he was his apprentice and learned everything he knew, and that he ultimately killed him.  He states that the old sith lord had the ability to manipulate the meticloriants to create life.

It's not a difficult leap to make (kids are supposed to be able to work it out after all), it means that Palpatine created Anakin.

Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge Of The Sith

hummingofevil

Is there anything in Shawshank to prove that Andy didn't kill his wife? I reckon he did and the fact that he did, then got away from the prison with money and shit makes him a cold-blooded anti-hero type rather than a wronged victim-type.

CaledonianGonzo

The Star Wars saga is an anti-masturbation parable.  Everyone's continually getting their hands cut off - even the guy in the Mos Eisley cantina and the poor old Hoth Wampa.

Ginyard

Quote from: Santa's Boyfriend on October 25, 2010, 08:36:15 AM

In the third film, Palpatine tells Anakin the story of the old sith lord, hinting that he was his apprentice and learned everything he knew, and that he ultimately killed him.  He states that the old sith lord had the ability to manipulate the meticloriants to create life.

It's not a difficult leap to make (kids are supposed to be able to work it out after all), it means that Palpatine created Anakin.


Its 'midichlorians' SB! I know it looks stupid (it makes me think of a race of DAW compatible swimming pools) and 'meticloriants' looks a bit more hard, like a nest of Klingon spiders, but that's what it is.

Yeah, I remember that bit but that doesn't mean Palps is literally his dad, just a Dr Frankenstein figure who knocked up a dozy slave bimbo with his dastardly fuck-you jedis force potion.

Quote from: hummingofevil on October 25, 2010, 10:52:07 AM
Is there anything in Shawshank to prove that Andy didn't kill his wife? I reckon he did and the fact that he did, then got away from the prison with money and shit makes him a cold-blooded anti-hero type rather than a wronged victim-type.

Andy hears from a new prisoner a story about how his cellmate from another prison confessed about a similar murder. But they leave it quite ambiguous, with the possibility that the cellmate was in fact talking about another case, though this gets Andy's hopes up.

Ambient Sheep

Quote from: Ginyard on October 25, 2010, 11:45:16 AM'midichlorians'...looks stupid (it makes me think of a race of DAW compatible swimming pools)

Yes!!  It's always made me think that a Jedi's bloodstream smells like a swimming pool, and that the particles themselves look like minature Poly-800s or something (showing my age there).  Glad it's not just me.

Ginyard

I bet there's loads of us!

Let the force flow thru you.

Ignatius_S

Quote from: confettiinmyhair on October 25, 2010, 12:03:45 PM
Andy hears from a new prisoner a story about how his cellmate from another prison confessed about a similar murder. But they leave it quite ambiguous, with the possibility that the cellmate was in fact talking about another case, though this gets Andy's hopes up.

Spoiler alert
I thought that the guy, who was founded guilty of a similar murder, said in a jailhouse confession that he committed the murders that Andy was found  guilty of. In the original story, if I remember correctly, Andy didn't do it but was easy to frame.
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Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

I wondered about Andy being guilty too. It would make it more of a redemption for him.

Jemble Fred

Besides the apparent fact that no ambiguity was intended by the author, surely it spoils the whole film if he's guilty? You're no longer watching an innocent man's struggle for justice; he becomes just a murderer, banged to rights. Boo.

Admittedly it's years since I last saw the film.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Are you saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns"?

I think it makes it more interesting if he's guilty. Red was guilty and we didn't lose sympathy for him.

Jemble Fred

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on October 25, 2010, 03:35:39 PM
I think it makes it more interesting if he's guilty. Red was guilty and we didn't lose sympathy for him.

Well Red wasn't the central character, and as I recall he'd been in prison for eons already, arguably serving his time, so the characters aren't really comparable on that score.

When you're following someone's actual entry into prison in the way you are with Andy, they need to be innocent because otherwise who would cheer them on in their attempt to escape justice? "Yay, you go, wife-killer!"