"Use of the word Fuck", is it by Monty Python?

[Paaaaul]

The only credit to Monty Python on it, is at the end of the video. It did not have Monty Python in the description at all. I only downloaded it due to it's relevance to this thread and I only watched it 'til the end to see if there was any credits/more information on it.

[TJ]

Has anyone ever heard that supposed Syd's Pink Floyd outtake, 'Stanley The Simpleton'? It has fake written all over it - the lyrics aren't very Barrett at all, for a start - and yet people insist on believing that it's real. Meanwhile, some genuine unreleased tracks by the Barrett-era band continue to languish unheard in the vaults...

[alan strang]

Beatles bootlegs are probably 50% miscredited shite.

In the 70s, maybe (I presume you're refering to 'Cheese + Onions', 'LS Bumblebee' et al being used as filler on old vinyl bootlegs), but the Beatles bootlegs I've bought over the years (which amount to a great many hours of incredible listening) are always the genuine article. A factor helped by all those many many dubs of high-quality studio sessions leaking out of EMI in the 80s.

You'll sometimes get burned by a track called 'The Bus' (which just turns out to be a bit of mellotron incidental music dubbed from the Magical Mystery Tour film) or a 'White Album Sessions'  CD which mistakenly labels the performance of 'Yer Blues' from 'Rock N'Roll Circus' as an 'out-take', but that's about it.

Has anyone ever heard that supposed Syd's Pink Floyd outtake, 'Stanley The Simpleton'? It has fake written all over it - the lyrics aren't very Barrett at all, for a start - and yet people insist on believing that it's real.

Not heard that. But I'm still frowning over Lucy Leave / King Bee!

[TJ]

Has anyone ever heard that supposed Syd's Pink Floyd outtake, 'Stanley The Simpleton'? It has fake written all over it - the lyrics aren't very Barrett at all, for a start - and yet people insist on believing that it's real.

Not heard that. But I'm still frowning over Lucy Leave / King Bee!

Oh they're real alright - they've been authenticated by some bloke who was in The Pink Floyd Sound, who also named some other tracks they did in the same session.

[Jemble Fred]

Aye, I'm referring mainly to KazAa-type downloads – you half expect it, but when something called BEATLES 1967 EXTREMELY RAIR!!!! turns out yet again to be ELO (or even Wet Wet Wet) it does get annoying. Luckily, there aren't really any worthwhile Beatlegs left for me to download... Not until Macca croaks and the floodgates re-open.

[TJ]

Aye, I'm referring mainly to KazAa-type downloads – you half expect it, but when something called BEATLES 1967 EXTREMELY RAIR!!!! turns out yet again to be ELO (or even Wet Wet Wet) it does get annoying. Luckily, there aren't really any worthwhile Beatlegs left for me to download... Not until Macca croaks and the floodgates re-open.

That's the sort of thing I was referring to - Boki's mixes relabelled and attributed to 'Chris Morris', for examle.

[alan strang]

Aye, I'm referring mainly to KazAa-type downloads ? you half expect it, but when something called BEATLES 1967 EXTREMELY RAIR!!!! turns out yet again to be ELO (or even Wet Wet Wet) it does get annoying.

Ah, I didn't consider file-sharing in the equation. All my boots were bought 'legitimately' (ahem) from people in Camden Town who kept one eye open for the police and Watchdog film crews ("Yes, here you see - 'The Rolling Stones Live 1998' - I don't think Mick Jagger would be very happy to see that on sale!")

Luckily, there aren't really any worthwhile Beatlegs left for me to download... Not until Macca croaks and the floodgates re-open.

Have you got the Lennon/Macca/Stevie Wonder "fancy a snort and a toot" tape? If ever anyone needed proof that cocaine is bad for you, that's the one!

I had to stop buying those boots after a while as it got to the point where I was paying fifteen quid for a CD filled with stuff I already had, just to get one take of A Hard Day's Night which I hadn't heard. And then it would turn out to be a false start.

[mwude]

Just in case anyone misses this thread I'll copy & paste what I put there -

Don't worry it's not another tedious link to hear that same piece of audio again. I just saw it mentioned on here in another thread and it reminded me to dig out the following quote. I used some of it in some music & someone responded with this:

...the now famous 'Uses of the Word Fuck' audio that has been so popular on the net for a decade or so - is none other than the late Jack Wagner, the official voice of Disneyland, WDW, Orlando Airport, etc.

I know this because I gave him the very first, poor audio quality version of this back in 1989 when we worked together on a D-Land project. He liked it so much, he re-recorded it - correcting the grammar, and then adding a few more examples and the Vivaldi BGM.

I got the very first version of this now famous audio (often miscredited as George Carlin or Monty Python). He was so proud of this, which always struck me as strange given his uptight employer. But if ANYONE ever had job security at Disneyland, it was Jack Wagner!

I think everyone with half a brain knew it wasn't by Monty Python or George Carlin, but it's interesting to know who was actually responsible for it. Well, interesting to me anyway.

[Voicedude]

My friend mwude asked me to shed some light on this, so here it is. I am the friend he quotes above.

Now this isn't something I 'heard', or a 'friend of a friend' kind of thing, it was ME, Voicedude, actually involved here. The late Jack Wagner was the offical parkwide voice of the Disney theme parks until he died. He also did the voices of Mickey, Donald, Goofy, etc. - but ONLY for in house audio, not movies or recordings. As I said in your quote, I gave Jack the very first, poor audio quality version of this back in 1989 when we worked together on the Blast To The Past project. I have no idea who the original crappy version (that no one here has EVER heard) was by, but it wasn't anyone Jack or I could recognise - and we BOTH come from extensive radio backgrounds. Radio and other production guys like engineers are kind of geeks when it comes to collecting stuff like this. Back before file sharing on the internet, this stuff was passed around from 'geek-to-geek' with audio tapes - usually a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. so quality was usually pretty poor.

I was given THAT particlar tape by none other than guitarist Bobby Cochran (Eddie's nephew, who was also in Steppenwolf and other groups) who also liked to collect this stuff. The tape had other stuff on it like some old torch song called "Eveybody's Fucking But Me", whose singer we all tried to identify. In return Jack Wagner, a guy with a wonderful, twisted sense of humor for an old dude, gave me a tape with stuff on it like John Cameron Swayze busting up, completely losing it live on the air. All of these things were eighth/ninth generation and had been making the rounds for quite a while - and remember, things were still a bit lo-tech back then, nothing digital. (BTW, I've also been given the very first copy of "Everybody Fuck Now" - the C&C Music Factory Parody, by the very engineer who recorded it. And another recording engineer friend of mine shared with me recordings of Mel Blanc swearing as famous WB characters - NOT the lame stuff that his son and others did later, but the original Mel Blanc! It was racy and funny as all hell, and he would NOT give me or anyone else a copy due to a solomn promise to Mel. To my knowledge, these recordings have still never been heard outside this guy's studio....)

Anyway, Jack liked this bit so much, he re-recorded it - correcting the grammar (he was a stickler for that), and then adding a few more examples of his own as well as the Vivaldi BGM. He gave me his first copy, the very first version of this now famous audio (often miscredited as George Carlin or Monty Python - I've often contacted those who have misidentified it, like the Flash file video version. Sometimes they thank me and make corrections, sometimes I never here from them).

Anyone with half of an ear can confirm it's Jack if you ever visit the train ride at Disneyland, at Disneyworld, ride the Orlando Airport shuttle, etc. Online through file sharing, I know there's been some 'official sound of Disneyland' stuff ripped from CDs that featured every single song and voice recording at the park down to the 'we're now closed, please exit' announcements. If you can find some of these, the comparisons are easy.

I hope this clears things up. I know; I was semi-involved in it's creation.

SOMEWHERE I still have a copy of the original crappy, shorter version with no music (don't ask me to find it!). But who would want to hear THAT version when Jack's is FAR better anyway!

- Voicedude

[weekender]

Interesting post, thanks.

SOMEWHERE I still have a copy of the original crappy, shorter version with no music (don't ask me to find it!). But who would want to hear THAT version when Jack's is FAR better anyway!

Well, lots of people would to be honest, myself included.

[JesusAndYourBush]

Thanks.  I just emailed the info to the person who first made the enquiry through my website, for a friend who'd recorded a piece of music that included some of the audio and needed to seek permission from whoever had recorded it.  Hold on, mwude, you mentioned making a piece of music you used it in, it wasn't your friend who emailed me was it?

[mwude]

Nope, the email you received was nothing to do with me.  I did use a couple of snippets of it in one track and the whole thing in an hour long mix, so technically I should seek permission.  But as my stuff is not for profit and only available via the internet there doesn't seem an awful lot of point.