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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2282 on: October 03, 2020, 09:59:45 AM »
https://twitter.com/ChangeTheRef/status/1312024331225051136

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Fucking hell. Is that Aaron Paul under the CGI mask?

They should have got the father to do another take, having told everyone to be wary of "gun hands."

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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2283 on: October 03, 2020, 12:45:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/ChangeTheRef/status/1312024331225051136

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I don't see any anti-gun politicians on the ticket to vote for...what a waste of a powerful message.


Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2285 on: October 30, 2020, 03:20:23 AM »
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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2286 on: November 10, 2020, 02:05:52 PM »
While working this week, I've had the OC Oscar Specials on the background. In the 4th one, there's a little moment near the end where James Dean looks like he's either going to break down crying or actually come at Tim with the pool cue. You can see Joe Estevez give Tim a little out-of-character raise of the eyebrows. Axiom looks a little freaked out. And the living painting models don't flinch. Absolute pros.

Just something I noticed. You could fill pages with these kinds of observations of the OCOS. They really are some of the best comedy ever made, in large part I think because of how they ride the line between fiction and reality.

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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2287 on: November 10, 2020, 08:16:36 PM »
How can you work with those classics on?

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« Reply #2288 on: November 10, 2020, 08:21:39 PM »
Seen them a million times, they're great to have on in the background. Even half-watching, I keep finding new things.

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« Reply #2289 on: November 10, 2020, 10:05:25 PM »

Just something I noticed. You could fill pages with these kinds of observations of the OCOS. They really are some of the best comedy ever made, in large part I think because of how they ride the line between fiction and reality.

Agreed, there's this total unknown of whether everything is planned, or it just happens randomly. And they never go too serious or too zany. Top comedians making great shows. Like Gregg's segments from the Kodak Theatre. Why is is so funny? It's just badly edited clips with a repetitive library music backing. But it's hilarious.

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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2290 on: November 11, 2020, 08:52:54 AM »
While working this week, I've had the OC Oscar Specials on the background. In the 4th one, there's a little moment near the end where James Dean looks like he's either going to break down crying or actually come at Tim with the pool cue. You can see Joe Estevez give Tim a little out-of-character raise of the eyebrows. Axiom looks a little freaked out. And the living painting models don't flinch. Absolute pros.

Just something I noticed. You could fill pages with these kinds of observations of the OCOS. They really are some of the best comedy ever made, in large part I think because of how they ride the line between fiction and reality.

Loved that moment. "Jackass!"

What actually is the deal with the actor playing "James Dean"? Does he actually think he is James Dean? He seems totally genuine - a bit of a Liebe Hart.

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« Reply #2291 on: November 11, 2020, 09:05:23 AM »
Loved that moment. "Jackass!"

What actually is the deal with the actor playing "James Dean"? Does he actually think he is James Dean? He seems totally genuine - a bit of a Liebe Hart.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about him. At the end of his first appearance in the third special, I think, Tim's yelling at him and he seems genuinely frightened and confused. Obviously he's in on it to some extent as he kept returning, but his reactions there were too real for me to think he was purely acting.

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« Reply #2292 on: November 11, 2020, 09:10:52 AM »
Re: the discussion of what makes OC so funny: I have a "deleted scene" from my documentary about OC, Tim & Eric and Office Hours - by the way many thanks to QDRPHNC and Noodle Lizard both for their valuable input pre-release -[1] in which Tim, in a rare instance, actually talks shop about his comedy and - perhaps surprisingly - he holds Steve Martin up as a hero of his.

LISTEN: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17HWc1YK8dxe3z50VsbKtwzImN8gDvRic/view?usp=sharing (Office Hours 27.05.2016)

In short, Tim is faced with a caller who is trying to stir things up by reporting that Norm MacDonald said that "anti-comedy" was shit and disingenuous. Tim says that he respects MacDonald and that he has never had the desire to be part of an scene called the "anti-comedy movement" or whatever. He prefers to think of himself as doing what Steve Martin did: to get audiences to the place where they feel like they are sharing a funny moment with their best friend, and the ideas are bouncing around, and everyone is laughing at variations on the thing, and eventually one you just says: "what the hell are we even laughing about?"

I think OC is all about the observations of foolishness and silliness that are funny in real life: I was watching that new Comedy Central show "Corporate" and it's all so slick and the jokes are "observational" only in a very stylized way. OC is totally unvarnished by comparison, and the Oscar specials above all else.
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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2293 on: November 11, 2020, 01:00:18 PM »
Part of it is the tension, that even though it's somewhat scripted, it's also live, and with performers who are part of a comedy show (ie. James Dean, the Rat Pack), but who are also being employed to do their usual schtick in the middle of all this. It's the possibility that all this is going to get away from Tim and Gregg that makes it compelling.

Reminds me a of the Jack White ethos, creating tension to stimulate the music. I read an interview with him where he said that if he needs to change guitars during a set and he gets too used to where the other guitar is, next show he'll move it further away, so he has to walk a little faster or work a little harder, and the constant breaking of routine creates more moments for the performance to flourish.

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Re: Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkingtons On Cinema podcast
« Reply #2294 on: November 12, 2020, 10:54:34 AM »
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about him. At the end of his first appearance in the third special, I think, Tim's yelling at him and he seems genuinely frightened and confused. Obviously he's in on it to some extent as he kept returning, but his reactions there were too real for me to think he was purely acting.

In the out of character Q&A Tim and Gregg did in London a few years ago, they said that 'James Dean' was genuinely taken aback by Tim's aggression. He is totally in on the joke, but he didn't realise how far Tim was going to go.

They also mentioned that during the 4th Oscar Special he was walking around looking baffled at the whole thing, and said 'this is the last one of these I'm doing'.