The Avengers [renamed]

[Dead kate moss]

Cos the other one was all 2011...

Anyway, new Avengers one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM5WuOwpodo

[amputeeporn]

As someone who was excited to see the Marvel universe come to life but stopped watching the films after Iron Man 2 (boring, indulgent, deluded shite) - I must say that looked fun. Problem is, knowing Marvel as we do, it'll be another origin story (the team itself and Cap 'finding his way' in the modern world) with ten minutes of decent effects at the end.

The Hulk propelling himself through explosions in the air looked rad though.

[phantom_power]

I think Joss Whedon can be trusted to do something a bit more interesting than just an origin story. He managed to deal with the whole "some audience members are clued up, some aren't" thing well in Serenity (I think) as well. He seems to acknowledge that he biggest problem is having so many characters in the film so hopefully he will have remedied that as well

[brat-sampson]

Weren't the last 5 years all basically geared to be 'Origin story' for TA? Surely if ever a film needed no (more) introduction, it's this one.

[Tiny Poster]

You chose the wrong time to bow out, amputeeporn - Thor and Captain America were both great fun, much better than Iron Man 2.

[The Duck Man]

I'm near definitely over-thinking this, but I don't really get the Avengers concept.

So you've got Tony Stark, who comes from a fairly "real" context, American super-power, new range of weaponry etc. I can see Hulk fitting in with that, scientific experiment gone wrong. But Thor... landing from some kind of mythological background, albeit landing in the modern day. And then Captain America... from the past? And then some Archer bloke, and the girl from the second Iron Man I haven't seen.

Oh, I suppose it all vaguely hangs together, but still...

[Tiny Poster]

Captain America was frozen in ice during World War II, and in the film Thor and his lot aren't mythical, they're from another planet or something like that.

And as you should well know, they all lark about together in the comics, with Spider-Man, sundry X-Men, robots, aliens and the very magical Doctor Strange.

[El Unicornio, mang]

I wasn't all that impressed with the previous trailer, but this new one for Amazing Spider-Man actually looks good. Looks closer to the comics in tone, Garfield seems like a better fit for Parker than Maguire, Emma Stone is good eye candy, The Lizard looks a lot better than Green Goblin (not that that's saying much) overall I'm optimistic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-tnxzJ0SSOw

[Nik Drou]

I'm all for there being a greater fidelity or realism in superhero movies, but that trailer comes off as rather flat for me. Do all of the action sequences take place at night? The choice of music seemed a bit dodgy, as did some of those lines:

Spoiler alert

"I gotta stop him, cos I created him!"

[close]

Spoiler alert

"If you want the truth Peter, come and get it!"

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Plus I really have little-to-no interest in what Peter Parker's parents got up to, particularly considering the legacy of that in the comics. This version of Curt Connors seems to be lacking the kind of (admittedly grating) pathos that practically defines him as a character. So far, he appears just a smarmy British guy who occasionally turns into a CG thing for Spider-man to hit. Perhaps a bit unfair of me at this stage, but then I've been cynical of this film since its announcement.

[Dead kate moss]

Raimi's films got so much right but not Spider-Man himself's character. Which is the 'wise-cracker'. I haven't got high hopes for this movie except for they might be, from bits of that trailer, attempting to at least get that part closer to the comics.

[The Roofdog]

So you've got Tony Stark, who comes from a fairly "real" context, American super-power, new range of weaponry etc. I can see Hulk fitting in with that, scientific experiment gone wrong. But Thor... landing from some kind of mythological background, albeit landing in the modern day. And then Captain America... from the past? And then some Archer bloke, and the girl from the second Iron Man I haven't seen.

The thing that really doesn't hang together for me in the Marvel universe is that the X-Men and the Avengers are supposed to exist side by side. I mean, what government would give a fuck about a few school kids who can turn stuff to ice or read a mind or two when you've got Thor running around and your planet's being threatened by Galactus? One good consequence of all the film rights being owned by different companies is I'll never have to try to get my tiny mind around it on screen.

[Sandow]

I wasn't all that impressed with the previous trailer, but this new one for Amazing Spider-Man actually looks good. Looks closer to the comics in tone, Garfield seems like a better fit for Parker than Maguire, Emma Stone is good eye candy, The Lizard looks a lot better than Green Goblin (not that that's saying much) overall I'm optimistic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-tnxzJ0SSOw

I'm not sure about that, it looks really dull apart from anything else. The Untold Story? Are they sure about that?...

[Dead kate moss]

[chocky909]

Is The Hulk always The Hulk in this?

[The Roofdog]

Ruffalo's in the trailer as himself so definitely not all the time.

[momatt]

^ John C. Reilly's let himself go.

[Mister Six]

You chose the wrong time to bow out, amputeeporn - Thor and Captain America were both great fun, much better than Iron Man 2.

Thor was great fun,[nb]Though Thor's entire character arc seemed incredibly fast-tracked, and to only exist because it was what happens in this kind of film, and not because the characters or situations would ever prompt it. [/nb] but I thought Captain America was atrocious from the moment he got himself super-serumised. Steve Rogers loses his entire dramatic arc, and the script itself degenerates into a box-ticking exercise to get everything set up for The Avengers/Captain America 2/any WWII spin-offs, and comes across as the 'best of' compilation of about 50 different rewrites, copy/pasted into Final Draft and called a script. Really depressingly soulless shit. I mean, even that last line - 'I had a date' - that would have been affecting if the love interest had been in more than about three post-serum scenes. And presumably at some point, twenth revisions back, she was. It's a mess.

[The Roofdog]

If you haven't already, I strongly advise you not to watch Green Lantern.

[Mister Six]

I mean, what government would give a fuck about a few school kids who can turn stuff to ice or read a mind or two when you've got Thor running around and your planet's being threatened by Galactus?

And why would New York spunk itself over Spider-Man and his freaky powers when they're all scared of mutants and their freaky powers? How do they know that Spider-Man's not a mutant himself?

[The Roofdog]

So this is now officially called AVENGERS ASSEMBLE... just in Britain I think? To stop us confusing it with Patrick Macnee, the retards that we are.

New poster as well
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1263394/the_avengers_brand_new_poster_and_release_date_news.html

[Dead kate moss]

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/

New trailer, more awesome.

[madhair60]

Can't wait.

Was that a robotic Fin Fang Foom at the end?  I can only hope.

[Tiny Poster]

Lots more Johannson, I see - but no Hawkeye. Strange, as Marvel are pushing him really hard in the comics right now, updating his costume to the movie one and everything.

[Dead kate moss]

I saw Hawkeye. Didn't see much of Thor's helmet though.

It does look like a robotic Fin Fang Foom... We know Loki is the main villain but rumours of Skrulls are about. In the poster it looks like they've made Hulk 20 ft tall again, but fortunately from the new trailer he looks Hulk-size.

[kidsick5000]

So this is now officially called AVENGERS ASSEMBLE... just in Britain I think? To stop us confusing it with Patrick Macnee, the retards that we are.

Possible copyright issue?
Anyway. I'm genuinely thrilled they've finally got the Hulk looking right

[Small Man Big Horse]

I'm really looking forward to this, and I can't remember the last time a US blockbuster has made me feel this way. Largely it's because of Joss Whedon's involvement, but this latest trailer looks pretty stunning, and hopefully it should be a lot of fun. Not sure about Loki as the main villain yet, but other than that I've no complaints.

[The Region Legion]

Looks like crap. Hawkeye and Black Widow just don't fit the group at all without equally garish and cartoon-y costumes as the rest of them, the enemies look like your standard Transformers style hunks of unidentifiable metal, its clear that we're going to get 40-60 minutes worth of "ALL THESE HEROES HATE EACH OTHER FOR NO REASON IN THE FACE OF AN INVASION OF THE PLANET LED BY A GOD" forced dramatic bullshit... nah, fuck this shit. Bring on Dark Knight Rises.

[Mini]

Looks like crap. Hawkeye and Black Widow just don't fit the group at all without equally garish and cartoon-y costumes as the rest of them, the enemies look like your standard Transformers style hunks of unidentifiable metal, its clear that we're going to get 40-60 minutes worth of "ALL THESE HEROES HATE EACH OTHER FOR NO REASON IN THE FACE OF AN INVASION OF THE PLANET LED BY A GOD" forced dramatic bullshit... nah, fuck this shit. Bring on Dark Knight Rises.

Well said. From what I gather it'll be a lot of explosions and little substance

[phantom_power]

With Whedon I think the least we can expect is more than just a load of explosions. Everything he has made has had substance to it, subtext and emotional weight

[madhair60]

It's going to be knockabout fun, if you want substance go and see something that doesn't have Iron Man, Captain America and Thor in it.

To elaborate, I find the comic-book silliness of the Marvel movies to absolutely be in their favour, as opposed to The Dark Knight's tone of "Giant Bat Chasing A Clown Is Serious Business", or the upcoming Rises which appears to be "Giant Bat Chasing A Hench Bloke And A Woman Dressed Like A Cat Is Also Serious Business".  I like both films but look forward to liking Avengers the same way I liked X-Men First Class, Captain America and the Iron Man films.  Light-hearted action escapism.