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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2850 on: June 26, 2018, 02:23:49 PM »
Fri 6th July:

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The Story of 1986.
How did the decline of the young guns of the early 80s, the advent of house, the big bang in the money markets and political fatigue on the Left make their mark - or not - on the nation's most popular music show? Paul Heaton, Mick Hucknall, Sinitta, The Communards and Swing Out Sister are among the acts that steer us through the changes impacting Britain, the music industry and the BBC's long-serving pop powerhouse in 1986.

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1986 - Biggest Hits.
Top of the Pops Big Hits is back with a bang for the year of 1986 where pop, new wave, rock, funk and R&B are all celebrated within this 60 minute special. The treasure troves of the BBC archives are open, so expect smoke machines, shoulder pads and perms along with studio performances from Bon Jovi, Cyndi Lauper, Cameo, The Pretenders, The Real Thing, Billy Ocean, and The Communards. Other highlights include The Housemartins, Kim Wilde, The Human League plus The Cure and many more.


Was 1986 the year of Claire and Friends? If so this is probably the first year that I can actually remember watching.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2851 on: June 26, 2018, 02:39:52 PM »
Lovely. Always thought 1986 was a bit of a weird year - stuck between the demise of many of the 80's mega-groups (Duran, Spandau etc.) and the impact of house and dance the following year, it created a vacuum that was filled with some unusual (but not necessarily always good) chart music.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2852 on: June 26, 2018, 03:50:58 PM »
Lovely. Always thought 1986 was a bit of a weird year - stuck between the demise of many of the 80's mega-groups (Duran, Spandau etc.) and the impact of house and dance the following year, it created a vacuum that was filled with some unusual (but not necessarily always good) chart music.

That sounds like it could make these repeats more interesting. There's enough there to keep me going but 1985 has largely just made me nostalgic for the nostalgia I was consuming from 'em two years ago.

I'm definitely gonna keep watching at least until the 'dancing nuns' performance of 'It's Sinful' by Pete Wylie which made my grandad laugh nearly to the point of waste expellation, for reasons I could never figure out when I was six years old or whatever it was.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2853 on: June 26, 2018, 04:19:33 PM »
Oh Jesus. Just watched myself a sneak preview of the Sinful performance. Introduced by Long and Peel (banana, anyone?) so I prepared to grimace. Sure enough, Long claims camaraderie while Peel crow-bars in a Liverpool FC reference. Nothing if not predictable. 

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2854 on: June 26, 2018, 05:09:47 PM »
Oh Jesus. Just watched myself a sneak preview of the Sinful performance. Introduced by Long and Peel (banana, anyone?) so I prepared to grimace. Sure enough, Long claims camaraderie while Peel crow-bars in a Liverpool FC reference. Nothing if not predictable.

It's tragic.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2855 on: June 26, 2018, 11:06:35 PM »
Another sixteen episodes will be skipped however due to the flip and unprofessional presentation by Mike Smith. I imagine we will run through the year before 2019.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2856 on: June 26, 2018, 11:23:13 PM »
Oh Jesus. Just watched myself a sneak preview of the Sinful performance. Introduced by Long and Peel (banana, anyone?) so I prepared to grimace. Sure enough, Long claims camaraderie while Peel crow-bars in a Liverpool FC reference. Nothing if not predictable.

Isn't it the one where Peel says "..and if you don't make this a smash hit I'll come and break wind in your kitchen"? My mum thought that was brilliant.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2857 on: June 28, 2018, 08:13:36 PM »
28 November 1985: Presenters: Dixie Peach & Peter Powell

(22) DAVID GRANT & JAKI GRAHAM – Mated
Preposterous Popstar Ponytail
(9) WHITNEY HOUSTON – Saving All My Love For You (video)
Sax Plinth
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(29) ARTISTS UNITED AGAINST APARTHEID – Sun City
(26) PAUL MCCARTNEY – Spies Like Us
(24) GO WEST – Don’t Look Down-The Sequel

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(25) PREFAB SPROUT – When Love Breaks Down
Big Boys Don't Cry



(10) PHIL COLLINS & MARILYN MARTIN – Separate Lives (video)
KOMHATA 3?
(1) WHAM! – I’m Your Man (video)
Starman Shoulder Drape
(35) STARSHIP – We Built This City (audience dancing / credits)
Dixie - "Oh they've done it again. Wham! in the number one position. Well that's it from us tonight, but before we go . . ."
Pixie -  "I've got a few things to say. Firstly, Mike Smith and Steve Wright presenting Top of the Pops. And to say that we play out with Starship 'We Built this City'. From Dixie and myself, b-bye."

Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2858 on: June 29, 2018, 01:13:21 AM »
I suggest you capture as much of this as you can lads.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2859 on: June 29, 2018, 09:27:10 AM »
a) great show - don't miss this one
b) terrible show - don't miss this one
c) make the most of this now, as they're cancelling the run

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2860 on: June 29, 2018, 11:53:21 AM »
5 December 1985: Presenters: Mike 'weirdo' Smith & Steve 'an unusual man' Wright

(13) GO WEST – Don’t Look Down (The Sequel)
Billowy Turn-ups
(9) LIONEL RICHIE – Say You Say Me (video)
Anthony Hopkins : The Ballet Years
(27) NIK KERSHAW – When A Heart Beats
Prog's Not Dead
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(29) MARILLION – Heart Of Lothian
(24) BAND AID – Do They Know It’s Christmas (1985 video)
(12) MADONNA – Dress You Up (live clip)
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(23) PET SHOP BOYS – West End Girls
A Smash Hit



(1) WHAM! – I’m Your Man (video)
Snoggers!
(33) AMAZULU – Don’t You Just Know It (audience dancing / credits)
Go on - Push off!

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2861 on: June 29, 2018, 12:18:42 PM »
I spot four maybe five groups having their last top 40 hit in that one.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2862 on: June 29, 2018, 12:23:27 PM »
Not five, Marillion had two more. And not four because (the fabulous) I'm Your Man wasn't Wham!'s last single, that was the lesser The Edge Of Heaven, plus Last Christmas got re-released...

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2863 on: June 29, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »
For some reason The Pet Shop boys in there really feels like the beginning of a new era - This is 'The Eighties : part 2' starting right here!

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2864 on: June 29, 2018, 08:41:59 PM »
12 December 1985: Presenters: Gary Davies & Janice Long

(26) BRONSKI BEAT – Hit That Perfect Beat
The Milky Bars are on me!
(5) MADONNA – Dress You Up (video)
Double Crossed
(24) CAMEO – She’s Strange
AAOWWW!
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(33) IRON MAIDEN – Run To The Hills (live clip)
(31) PRINCESS – After The Love Has Gone
(14) STARSHIP - We Built This City

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(10) SHAKIN’ STEVENS – Merry Christmas Everyone
Last Christmas (. . . was when this was originally supposed to come out)
(1) WHITNEY HOUSTON – Saving All My Love For You (video)
Houston, we have a Burger
(32) WHAM! – Last Christmas (audience dancing / credits)
Merry Christmas Everyone!
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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2865 on: June 29, 2018, 08:52:21 PM »
Smash Hits this week has an article on what's gone wrong with Top of the Pops - read what your favourite pop stars (and Cliff Richard) have to say on the hot topic!

Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2866 on: June 30, 2018, 12:19:44 AM »
Someone remind me of the link for those fake chart rundowns please? Thanks.


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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2868 on: June 30, 2018, 12:06:26 PM »
21 November 1985: Presenters: Paul 'Casual Jumpers' Jordan & Janice Long
(18) DEE C. LEE – See The Day
Nearly forgot, this is the forst single I bought with my own money for someone else. My sis ter was a big fan of The Style Council and Ms. Lee, so I bought it for her for Christmas.
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(1) FEARGAL SHARKEY – A Good Heart
Famously written by a then-unknown Maria McKee about her relationship with The Hearbreakers' Belmont Tench (who wrote You Little Thief in response, and Sharkey put the songs next to each other on the album). According to the usual sources, Boy George provided backing vocals on the chorus, but he denied this when someone asked him on Twitter a couple of years ago. This performance (and the video) features Gina Schock of The Go-Gos on drums, that band having just split (she didn't play on the record though).

28 November 1985: Presenters: Dixie Peach & Peter Powell

(22) DAVID GRANT & JAKI GRAHAM – Mated
Sexless, anodyne soul duet. The title/chorus has always felt a bit strange to me, 'Mated' is a word you normally associate with breeding domestic animals.
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[cuolor=green](9) WHITNEY HOUSTON – Saving All My Love For You [/color](video)
Filmed in London during a promo visit, she does that irritating thing of acting out the lyrics, which is more odd considering she's supposed to be in the studio. An early bid for a film career perhaps? Hee love interest is Ricco Ross, who was in the UK filming Aliens (he played Frost). He also managed to squeeze in a guest appearance in the Jill Gascoine/Lesley Ash vehicle C.A.T.S. Eyes too, and stayed on to do more UK TV work, including as the Ringmaster in McCoy-era Who 4-parter The Greatest Show In The Galaxy

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(24) GO WEST – Don’t Look Down-The Sequel [/color]
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I've never noticed before, but this sounds suspiciously similar to the 1980 Genesis single Turn It On Again!
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(10) PHIL COLLINS & MARILYN MARTIN – Separate Lives (video)
KOMHATA 3?
'Room 3' in Russian, daf - it's the ID overlay of the KGB CCTV camera they are supposedly spying on Phil 'n 'Marilyn (an effort to try and tie them into the film footage). Kind of disappointed there's not a pot of paint on Phil's piano though.  My sister got this single for Christmas too off her boyfriend at the time (who was just off to start at the Met Office college in Reading).
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(35) STARSHIP – We Built This City
Lyrics by Bernie Taupin, at a time when he was looking at working with other songwriters (though the chorus was rewritten by the producer Peter Wolf) , this was rejected by John Farnham while he was looking for songs for his first post-Little River Band solo album Whispering Jack, before being snapped up by the post-lawsuit Grace Slick-dominated remnants of Jefferson Starship for their first album post-name change (the album took its name from a line in the song, one of it's many crimes) 

The irony of a song supposedly decrying the commercialism of rock music while pulling every radio-friendly trick in the book, including the low-blow of giving the stations the opportunity to insert their ID into the middle 8 (which JAM Productions made countless versions of) that was originally voiced by MTV head of programming (and former radio DJ) Les Garland. It's an aural checklist of every stereotypical Synclavier sound and trick going (almost entirely down to Peter Wolf), and rightly deserves it's reputation as one of the worst songs of the 80s.
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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2869 on: June 30, 2018, 12:22:19 PM »
'Room 3' in Russian, daf - it's the ID overlay of the KGB CCTV camera they are supposedly spying on Phil 'n 'Marilyn (an effort to try and tie them into the film footage).

Ah yes, that makes sense.

ANOTHER film song, though!  There seems to be a real rash of these at the moment.
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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2870 on: June 30, 2018, 12:37:38 PM »
a) great show - don't miss this one
b) terrible show - don't miss this one
c) make the most of this now, as they're cancelling the run

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There's a department within the BBC who are using machine learning (mostly image and voice recognition) to scour the archives and purge them of any undesirables.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2871 on: June 30, 2018, 01:46:22 PM »
mill pop music all sounded the same).
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(23) PET SHOP BOYS – West End Girls
A Smash Hit
On it's second try
To me, the PSBs are one of the signallers of the second wave of the 'Good 80s' others have mentioned. It's notable how this sounds totally unlike any of the other records in this edition, and was produced largely using old, gear that was considered obsolete by this time - Emulator II, PPG Wave 2.3 (which Chris is playing), DMX drums. Some of it was sampled and resequenced (particularly the rhythm tracks) on a rented Fairlight at Advision by Stephen Hague

12 December 1985: Presenters: Gary Davies & Janice Long
In keeping with the festive theme, Janice has come dressed as a giant Quality Street . The the unfunny chart rundown quips, she gets a reference in to fellow ex-scouser Paul Jordan (mentioned a few posts back), who she used to hand over to at the end of her show around this time.
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(26) BRONSKI BEAT – Hit That Perfect Beat
BANGER. Another film soundtrack song daf, Letter to Brezhnev this time. DX7 corner appears again, though they appear to have fallen out given the distance between them. Steve Bronski makes a spectacularly poor effort at miming, generally waving his hands int he direction of the keys.
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(14) STARSHIP - We Built This City
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The video only multiplies the awfulness of the song
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(10) SHAKIN’ STEVENS – Merry Christmas Everyone
The sax player gets into the swing of things with a christmas jumper, Shaky's wearing what appears to be an 80s rug with a neck hole cut in it.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2872 on: June 30, 2018, 02:02:54 PM »
There's a department within the BBC who are using machine learning (mostly image and voice recognition) to scour the archives and purge them of any undesirables.

You mean the Mike Smith reference that was edited out?

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2873 on: June 30, 2018, 05:33:35 PM »
The sax player gets into the swing of things with a christmas jumper, Shaky's wearing what appears to be an 80s rug with a neck hole cut in it.

Mrs Treetops thinks this may have been a Vivienne Westwood jumper, I'm not so convinced.



Looking at the original pattern, I think Shaky was wearing a knock off.

And the Bronski Beat tune is indeed a banger.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2874 on: June 30, 2018, 05:54:23 PM »
I somehow lost half of my lst post, so here it is again:
5 December 1985: Presenters: Mike 'weirdo' Smith & Steve 'an unusual man' Wright
Oh jeeezus....
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(13) GO WEST – Don’t Look Down (The Sequel)
See my previous post about how similar this sounds to 80s Genesis. Poundshop Huey Lewis and Andrew Ridgeley are backed up with the ubiquitous DX7 Corner.
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(9) LIONEL RICHIE – Say You Say Me (video)
What did White nights do to deserve two soundtrack singles? Lionel isn't integrated into the clips from the film as Phil & Maz were though. I've always been a bit perplexed about the middle 8 in this song sounding like a completely different song - its like someone accidentally punched in on the master tape while the band were making a Lady Madonna knockoff for a library album in their lunch break.
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(27) NIK KERSHAW – When A Heart Beats
Nik's no longer lonely - he's got rid of the Jupiter 8 that stood by him for his previous appearances in favour of a guitar and a band. DX7 Corner makes yet another appearance. I can't help but notice how the production sounds similar similar to the preceding Go West track - a byproduct of everybody using DX7s and Fairlights with the same sound libraries by this time. Ironic, considering one of the themes of the Radio Musicola album was how all run-of-the-mill pop music all sounded the same.
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(23) PET SHOP BOYS – West End Girls
A Smash Hit
On it's second try
To me, the PSBs are one of the signallers of the second wave of the 'Good 80s' others have mentioned. It's notable how this sounds totally unlike any of the other records in this edition, and was produced largely using old, gear that was considered obsolete by this time - Emulator II, PPG Wave 2.3 (which Chris is playing), DMX drums. Some of it was sampled and resequenced (particularly the rhythm tracks) on a rented Fairlight at Advision by Stephen Hague

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2875 on: June 30, 2018, 09:00:57 PM »
On it's second try

Yes, I actually didn't even bother to check where in the charts this was (or if it had previously flopped) - I was just doing a bit of rib-ticking word play here - as Neil was recently Assistant Editor of Smash Hits.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2876 on: June 30, 2018, 09:35:56 PM »
And before that he ran Marvel UK. He was probably about 15. Out of the impressive sounding Jadwin House in Kentish Town, which was in fact two rooms above a kebab shop.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2877 on: June 30, 2018, 11:14:20 PM »
Yes, I actually didn't even bother to check where in the charts this was (or if it had previously flopped) - I was just doing a bit of rib-ticking word play here - as Neil was recently Assistant Editor of Smash Hits.
I got the intent, I just decided to run with it :)
The original version produced by Bobby O in 1984 was only released on 12" in the UK and didn't chart. Bobby O did some great stuff, but it reminds me of the famous Eric Morecambe routine - 'It's playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order'. It also suffers from that 1984-specific disease of producers (e.g. Peter Slaghuis) hearing Art Of Noise and deciding 'I've got a sampler and I'm gonna use it', and the unsinkable 808 cowbell clattering away.

The same fate would befall the original version of Opportunities, their first single for Parlophone which was produced by AON's  J. J. Jeczalik (it can easily be identified as he used some of the AON Fairlight percussion samples). It only reached number 116, but in the wake of the success of the second version of West End Girls it was also rerecorded with Stephen Hague and just missed out on a Top Ten.

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Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2878 on: June 30, 2018, 11:22:00 PM »
Reading Smash Hits at the time, they did a modest promotion of the Pet Shop Boys as the editor was half of the duo. However I'm pretty sure they made no mention of the first version of West End Girls, with the first release of Opportunities touted as their debut single.

Re: Top of the Pops on BBC Four
« Reply #2879 on: June 30, 2018, 11:47:02 PM »
You mean the Mike Smith reference that was edited out?

You'll not be getting some accidental cuts of Jimmy giving it the thumbs up, that's for sure.


Imagine the poor machine learning algorithm that has to be trained on Saville's face. This is why the future ends up with robot rights or an uprising.