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Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« on: June 07, 2012, 08:13:33 PM »
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Comedy Central has announced the commission of The Alternative Comedy Experience, a new TV programme showcasing stand-up talent.

Stewart Lee will host the 12-part series, which has been designed to promote 'cult' comedians who perform regularly on the stand-up circuit but are rarely seen on television.

Aside from a showcase of acts' stand-up and sketch material, Lee will also conduct interviews with each comedian so the audience can learn more about them and their inspirations.

The 30-minute episodes will be recorded at The Stand comedy club in Edinburgh during a single week July, for broadcast on the digital subscription channel later in the year.

Although the line-up has not yet been announced by the network, BroadcastNow reports that Simon Munnery, Robin Ince, Phil Nichol and Maeve Higgins will be amongst the acts the series focuses on.

http://www.comedy.co.uk/news/story/00000835/stewart_lee_the_alternative_comedy_experience/

Should be fun!

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 08:18:00 PM »
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Although the line-up has not yet been announced by the network, BroadcastNow reports that Simon Munnery, Robin Ince, Phil Nichol and Maeve Higgins will be amongst the acts the series focuses on.
So mostly established comedians who are friends of Stew, then? It sounded very promising to me until the names were mentioned.

I hate Robin fucking Ince.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 08:27:30 PM »
I wouldn't have thought that Phil Nichol is particularly alternative, I saw him this year and he was on good form but it's hardly 'cult' comedy. I don't want to complain though as it sounds like a great idea, and with 12 episodes it should hopefully give airtime to lesser known but better comics as well.

I have absolutely no issue with Robin Ince, oddly. The only time I've seen him was at Glastonbury 2005 when he read excerpts from Sid Little's autobiography and took the piss out of them, which wasn't exactly groundbreaking stuff but did make me laugh a fair bit. Can anyone enlighten me as to why some folks hate him so?

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 08:33:31 PM »
He's a horrible little sneering monkey, thinking that he's blowing minds when he's just playing to the gallery in the easiest way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg1kJJ-5Bg4

Ince there, putting forward the brilliant observations that theists believe in deities and putting on a voice which is probably best described as working class southerner so we know that religious people are stupid and didn't you go to university? I like books.

He's a friend of Gervais.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 08:40:50 PM »
Clicked this video in the related videos. First thing I clicked. He's doing the same thing again almost immediately: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1164ohAEA&feature=related

He is a hateful man, and a shit comedian to boot. "Being over 30 means you're getting older! Hahaha."

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 08:44:08 PM »
Ince there, putting forward the brilliant observations that theists believe in deities and putting on a voice which is probably best described as working class southerner so we know that religious people are stupid and didn't you go to university? I like books.

Didn't Bill Hicks do that?

I'm no fan of Ince though, he's a boring man.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 08:47:14 PM »
Didn't Bill Hicks do that?
Is it even worth comparing Hicks' stories that develop and have intricacies, jokes and showmanship with Ince saying "a magic man done it" to a group of people who would only be there if they know and like him already?

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 09:01:51 PM »
Robin Ince is my hero.

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 09:06:30 PM »
Is it even worth comparing Hicks' stories that develop and have intricacies, jokes and showmanship with Ince saying "a magic man done it" to a group of people who would only be there if they know and like him already?

Not really, but since your criticism was "putting forward the brilliant observations that theists believe in deities and putting on a voice which is probably best described as working class southerner so we know that religious people are stupid", the exact same thing could be said about Hicks routines, so I guess it's not a bad thing in and of itself.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 09:13:48 PM »
You're confusing Hicks relating conversations he actually had with his peers in a largely classless society with Ince adopting a working class accent[nb]that doesn't even fit the material; is Romford the first place that comes to mind when somebody mentions creationism?[/nb] so that his audience of middle class graduates can identify his strawman as a stupid person.

Ooh, that Robin Ince, he's just marvelous! He's a left-winger, just like us. He doesn't actually say anything particularly liberal, but he has the right clothes.

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2012, 09:21:26 PM »
You're confusing Hicks relating conversations he actually had with his peers in a largely classless society with Ince adopting a working class accent[nb]that doesn't even fit the material; is Romford the first place that comes to mind when somebody mentions creationism?

Is America a classless society?  Huh.

Anyway, I don't really care.  I'm no fan of Ince either.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2012, 09:25:47 PM »
Yes. "Largely", "comparatively", "for all intents and purposes", whatever makes you fuck off with it.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2012, 09:31:35 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg1kJJ-5Bg4

(plus the other one).

Erm, yeah, that's fair enough. Having watched both of those I can't say I'm anything close to being a fan any longer, the first was irritating and patronising, and the second just a bit weak. There was the odd okay joke, but most of it felt quite predictable.

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2012, 09:53:29 PM »
Well I love Robin Ince, the stuff he does now is mainly about science and philosophy, which is hardly hack.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2012, 09:57:03 PM »
Well I love Ricky Gervais, the stuff he does now is mainly about science and philosophy, which is hardly hack.

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2012, 11:10:03 PM »
Yes. "Largely", "comparatively", "for all intents and purposes", whatever makes you fuck off with it.

Or "not". Not a classless society.

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 11:28:02 PM »
Well I love Ricky Gervais, the stuff he does now is mainly about science and philosophy, which is hardly hack.

No the stuff he does is about disability and being famous and rich

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2012, 11:40:04 PM »
Or "not". Not a classless society.
Not having this argument, because it will mainly consist of defining class to mean what we need it to mean for our own individual arguments and pretending that I was suggesting there is no social hierarchy in the USA, when it's cockingly fuckobvious that I'm talking about cultural class and its associated hangups and not situational rich/poor class. See, I've redefined it already.
No the stuff he does is about disability and being famous and rich
Heh. I was being a bit facetious, but it really seemed like you were saying that because of his subject matter he couldn't be shit, which is surely objectively wrong.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 11:41:12 PM »
Well I love Robin Ince, the stuff he does now is mainly about science and philosophy, which is hardly hack.
Any YouTube-able choice bits in your opinion?

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2012, 12:54:30 AM »
pretending that I was suggesting there is no social hierarchy in the USA, when it's cockingly fuckobvious that I'm talking about cultural class and its associated hangups

Yeah, I hear they don't have that either.

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2012, 01:51:59 AM »
If it weren't for Robin Ince who would we have to tell us that The Daily Mail is a bit silly? That's right, thousands of other 'politically savvy' comics who aren't actually funny.

It sounded like the kind of thing I would normally salivate over until I saw the names mentioned. I don't like that Nichol chap either.

But as was said, six hours is a long time so hopefully there'll be plenty of good acts appearing.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2012, 07:25:05 AM »
I've never seen Robin Ince's act (seen him on NMTB, and heard him discussing Saturday Live on radio), but I'm at the point now where I don't want to see it, simply because I've heard so much negativity off my friends that either:

(a) they're right, and he'll be complete shit, or
(b) he'll be ok, and I'll have to accept that I have completely different sense of humour to my friends.

Both options involve more emotional trauma than I can bear, so it seems simpler to just never see Robin doing his job.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2012, 07:28:21 AM »
Anyone think that maybe SLee originally pitched the show as featuring more unknowns, but had to compromise and include some more established names? Just because these people are known in CaBland is no guarantee they mean anything in the rest of the universe.

Or maybe he just wanted to create a show that he could invite Jerry Sadowitz and Simon Munnery on to.

Maybe in a few years we'll be getting a controversial "burning bridges" routine giving "my side of the story about the A.C.E. debacle".

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2012, 07:51:40 AM »
No mention of Richard Herring then? He pisses over Robin Ince (in a high-backed armchair I hear).

Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2012, 08:13:17 AM »

Pretty much everything you have said in this thread has been utter bollocks.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2012, 08:17:28 AM »
So mostly established comedians who are friends of Stew, then? It sounded very promising to me until the names were mentioned.

Established but hardly famous. And it's just common sense to have C- and B-listers like this lot dotted in among the genuine unknowns. They're hardly going to put out a press release with a list of names you've never heard of, are they? Because you've never heard of them.

Obviously if it's all people of Ince/Munnery level then it's a missed opportunity, but it's far too early to make judgements on the eventual quality of the show based on that report.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2012, 08:41:14 AM »
Fingers crossed for a Tony Law appearance. Although part of me doesn't want to see the man behind the persona.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2012, 09:13:22 AM »
Yeah, I hear they don't have that either.
I'm talking to an American right now who completely agrees, and has no concept of the social issues that relate to this. Would you like to patronise her too? You've made no point from a position of nowhere.

To reference somebody entrenched in both cultures and relevant to the board (being a comedian), Reginald D Hunter makes it fairly easy to understand, by claiming (in a stand-up, jokey fashion) that Britain has a class system so that we can discriminate people who look like us (something that highlights the difference between class war and segregation and a voice of experience claiming that the US doesn't have the same issues).

You really should understand this sort of thing. Didn't you pretend you were doing a Jack Whitehall impression in your comedy videos because you were ashamed of having quite a posh accent?
Pretty much everything you have said in this thread has been utter bollocks.
Thanks for your contribution.
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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2012, 09:17:44 AM »
I watched Robin Ince in Manchester a few years ago and he was really really good. I also enjoyed his book a lot. I'd be happy to watch him do a long-ish bit of standup on the telly.

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Re: Stewart Lee: The Alternative Comedy Experience
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2012, 09:21:55 AM »
Quote from: Crabwalk
Fingers crossed for a Tony Law appearance. Although part of me doesn't want to see the man behind the persona.

There's a lengthy/awkward interview with Richard Herring on Law's first GFS DVD that indicates that Law's offstage demeanour isn't a million miles away from his onstage one.

Law's a likely candidate right enough, but I may shy away from it so as not to be served his upcoming Fringe show in bite-sized chunks.