Right-wing comedians?

[Dangermouse]

and arguing with many is a futile exercise.

The ability to form a well organised and thought-out argument would be a help.

Also you should realise that anti-immigration does not mean right-wing. Many of my friend from the middle and the left have strong opposition to immigration and asylum.

[aaaaaaaaaargh!]

Didn't Eddie Murphy do a right wing stand up video once that shocked a lot of people?

[Harfyyn Teuport]

Without being dragged too deeply into a serious political debate, I think the reason that there's resentment towards the right on these boards is due to what 'the Right' stands for in this day and age.

Being 'opposed to immigration' for instance seems to many to be an insular attitude at best and racist at worst, especially in a country such as Britain which has comparitively low immigration, yet has a dwindling population. Under 16s are now the smallest section of the population, over 60s now the largest. Immigrants are also of net benefit to the British economy and the leading countries from which they have applied recently, Iraq and Afghanistan, hint at a responsibility upon Britain to consider the consequences of bombings on the inhabitants of those countries for its own benefit. Even if such views are not right wing, it seems misinformed or worse, predicated on a more sinister undertone of xenophobia and racism, and reference to an overrun of bogus claimants and illegal parasites can be seen being expoused from the opposition benches every time the government announces any form of legislation on the matter, and often when the issue is not on the agenda.

Bear in mind that the UK is the only place in Europe that has immigrants forcibly detained in a maximum security prison immediately after entering the country, as happens to any immigrants to Northern Ireland promptly whisked to Maghaberry Prison to literally share blocks with murderers and rapists.

[Vermschneid Mehearties]

Ooh. Just remembered- Graham Norton.

(And yes, I am expecting the "Actually VM, we're talking about comedians here" hilarity)

[Simon Price]

I've got a feeling about Harry Enfield. Not based on much other than his pro-hunting, anti-saboteur stance, but I've got a feeling anyway.

If you want a hip modern artist with shockingly right-wing views, Vincent Gallo's yer man. Check out his rants about k**es and faggots and so on, on his official website http://www.vincentgallo.com/. (I dunno if they're still there or they've been taken down now, but I saw them with my own two eyes.) Not a very nice man.

What's the (s)Tory with Graham Norton, then?

[chand]

If you want a hip modern artist with shockingly right-wing views, Vincent Gallo's yer man. Check out his rants about k**es and faggots and so on, on his official website http://www.vincentgallo.com/. (I dunno if they're still there or they've been taken down now, but I saw them with my own two eyes.) Not a very nice man.

Christ, I just read two articles. Both of them including petty and foul-mouthed rants about Harmony Korine and Chloe Sevigny, and he came across like a complete twat in both of them. References to faggots and how much he hates the French.

[Hoogstraten'sSmilingUlcer]

If you want a hip modern artist with shockingly right-wing views, Vincent Gallo's yer man. Check out his rants about k**es and faggots and so on, on his official website http://www.vincentgallo.com/. (I dunno if they're still there or they've been taken down now, but I saw them with my own two eyes.) Not a very nice man.

I thought all that ranting was part of a joke persona. I remember a C4 Art Show on Gallo which I actually thought was a spoof it seemed so ridiculous.

I see what he says about the cynicism of Harmony Korine's 'mini-dwarf rich kid' spouting all the 'trendy' lines of hating the bourgeois, but not being able to totally reject their own luxury lifestyle. He makes a good point of the hypocrisy of Korine and Sevigny acting like rebels to get on the cover of The Face. In a way, dare I say it, I think that Morris has a similiar idea in Brass Eye. Gallo fucks his own point though when he describes Korine as a date-rapist, which is bordering on Victor Lewis-Smith-style spoilt-kid-can't-get-his-own-way pathetic vitriol.

Surprised he called Sevigny 'boring' too, especially as this was before Brown Bunny, in which she gives a semi-onscreen (and apparently, real) 8 minute blowjob. Or perhaps that's why he got to her to give him one.

[Vermschneid Mehearties]

What's the (s)Tory with Graham Norton, then?

Havign watched an uncomfortable amount of his stand-up routines, and his deja vu TV shows, most of his stand-up routine comes from current affairs. If you cut out the sexual innuendo and get to the bare bones of what he's saying, has a *generally speaking* right-wing albeit populist* agenda.

I read an interesting article saying how gays hold more conservative values, I'm not sure whether his sexuality has any sort of influence, I'm sure it does, as has his upbringing. He regularly makes self-deprecating jokes about his own sexuality, as if he feels guilty for it.

*Such as his President Bush-hating. Unfortunately he makes jokes over his 'stupidity' rather than his policy and record, but you get the picture. He does pander to a rather set demographic, and you can see that he even gets tired of it sometimes during his routines.

Thare is a line between his stand-up work (much more of his personal views), and his scripted pieces for TV.

A very one-note performer though, if occasionally funny, and with a degree of comic talent.

[european son]

being right wing does not make me racist or homophobic. Those kind of intollerant traits are found in a great many people some who would vcall themselves left wing and some who call themselves right wing.

As such, I think to ask  "where are the right wing comedians?" is a bit of a red herring.

i have to agree with that.

And I dislike right-wingers because their opinions make my blood boil, and arguing with many is a futile exercise.

again, which "right wing" opinions. politics isn't as simple as left = nice, right = nasty. there are different spheres of economic, social, domestic and foreign policy, and you can be "left" on some and "right" on the other. you seem to be simplifying the political spectrum just to avoid having to engage in discussion with those you may disagree with.

*Such as his President Bush-hating. Unfortunately he makes jokes over his 'stupidity' rather than his policy and record, but you get the picture.

so do most Steve Bell cartoons. actually most of those don't even bother to evaluate the President's intelligence, they just explain in capital letters that he looks a bit like a monkey. as i said before, he's no Doonesbury.


i dunno, in a humourous twist, this thread in places has a touch of McCarthyism about it. perhaps the reason why many comedians may not admit to being "right wingers" is because they may well get ripped apart by the "left-of-centre" alternative media consensus.

[Vermschneid Mehearties]

you seem to be simplifying the political spectrum just to avoid having to engage in discussion with those you may disagree with

Well yes, I couldn't have put it better myself. The views on GN still stand whether that's true or not though.

[Manford Thirty-Sixborough]

Bernard Manning (I think)

Do you think Hitler might have been a bit right wing as well?

[butnut]

Bernard Manning (I think)

Do you think Hitler might have been a bit right wing as well?

If you were feeling very naughty, you could argue that Hitler was more left-wing than Blair. At least he called himself a socialist, abeit a national one.

[Vermschneid Mehearties]

"Wo ist meine waschenboard?"

*Chuckle*

That Hitler just cracks. Me. Up.

[Purple Tentacle]

Bernard Manning (I think)

Do you think Hitler might have been a bit right wing as well?

Well the reason I had a bit of doubt is, as has been pointed out, you don't have to be right-wing to be racist.

I find that working-class northerners tend not to be Conservative politically, although Manning is one of these cunts who bangs on about being a a self-made man, so I'm fairly sure he's a Tory.

[Vermschneid Mehearties]

Well they're more likely to be socialists yet, though they're just as likely to be ignorant and racist like Manning. That's something altogether different though.

[thatmuch]

Most people have a mickle and a muckle of views, often shifting and self-contradictory, so labeling them is pretty difficult, even if the terms 'left' and 'right' meant much anyway.
The left has generally been associated with greater state intervention in the economy - is that still the case?
Is the anti-corporate globalisation movement 'left'? Or has it gone beyond those labels? How does one avoid being a 'capitalist'?
These are all some questions.

[Jemble Fred]

Faith Brown LOVED Margaret Thatcher.

But that's neither here, there nor anywhere.

[Virtually Perennially]

Yeah, and she got cancer.

[thatmuch]

emo philips, somebody once said.