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Twin Peaks season 3?

Started by Stone Cold Jane Austen, January 03, 2013, 04:51:24 PM

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Twed


I'm not sure if anyone here is a nine inch nails fan but they are notorious for original quirky releases. They are in the midst of releasing a three part album the first part was released around the time Twin Peaks began again, the second part was released during the middle of the run and the third should be released by the end of the series. Each release has a 'physical component' the first was a black envelope with lyrics and lots of black dust, the second appears to be a red envelope with who knows what inside. I'd love it if the third just contains 'that' picture of Laura Palmer and the who collection is inspired by twin peaks. They did perform in the middle of the middle episode and they played the middle song from the first EP. I really wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection.

Also the lyrics to the song they played really fit

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nineinchnails/shesgoneaway.html


newbridge

Quote from: JimFromTheMoon on July 26, 2017, 04:49:10 AM
yeah, it seemed like the dream had an effect on him.  Probably freaked him out as it all started to materialize into cherry pi. I wonder if the dream was Lodge-induced...

Yes, which is why it was such a great sequence for me. Dougie is being sent off to his death and we the audience can't figure out how he's going to get out of it. The Black Lodge can't physically interfere with the physical world, but what they can do is implant something in Jim Belushis dream and then beckon Dougie into buying the pie. Clever.

RDRR

fairly confident the significance of the pie was just that if that part of the dream turned out to be prophetic then so would the rest of it, presumably including that Dougie was carrying the insurance cheque - that they wouldn't have been able to cash if they'd killed him.


Rev

With the amazing van-summoning flute showing up in this episode, had flute fingering ever been floated as an idea for the plane windows code?  I've not idea if that would work, not having one knocking about.

NoSleep

Flute/whistle fingering would only be the explanation if successive holes were held down together (to get the lower notes of a recognisable melody). You wouldn't press down random single holes on a flute.

Twed

Yeah, but the singles could be finger raises. I can't remember the plane sequence to see if it would make any sense on a flute/whistle though.

NoSleep

Finger raises would still need to be successive. The only exceptions would be the occasional penultimate hole left open whilst all the others were held down. You wouldn't randomly open one hole while holding the lot down.

Twed

For argument's sake I'd say that's not strictly true (look at how many singles in either a raised or held down configuration in a D whistle, for example), but I agree it's unlikely that any tune is made out of those notes (and looking at the plane again, it definitely isn't that). Not getting singles in the middle of the instrument rules it out, really.



Everybody seems to be looking at this as a sequence of 6-bit values, and not concatenating it into a binary stream (where eight is a more likely grouping).

BlodwynPig

Quote from: RDRR on July 26, 2017, 09:43:08 PM
fairly confident the significance of the pie was just that if that part of the dream turned out to be prophetic then so would the rest of it, presumably including that Dougie was carrying the insurance cheque - that they wouldn't have been able to cash if they'd killed him.

Yes, but they only found the cheque by frisking him "to make sure"...so I don't think that was in the dream

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Twed on July 27, 2017, 01:21:15 AM
For argument's sake I'd say that's not strictly true (look at how many singles in either a raised or held down configuration in a D whistle, for example), but I agree it's unlikely that any tune is made out of those notes (and looking at the plane again, it definitely isn't that). Not getting singles in the middle of the instrument rules it out, really.



Everybody seems to be looking at this as a sequence of 6-bit values, and not concatenating it into a binary stream (where eight is a more likely grouping).

and The Great Gibber has been summoned. Sometimes...sometimes....I wish I could cry

popcorn

I actually don't get the gangster plot. Badcoop tried to have him whacked via his vegas man, who in turn tried to convince the gangsters to whack him by claiming he had fucked them over somehow?

Then dougie's boss gave them the cheque, why? Something to do with insurance? I could watch the scenes again but I'm lazy innit.

Obel

The Vegas man was the guy who put the hit out through the guys with the rifle, then later by Ike the Spike. It was the guy at Dougie's insurance firm who told the Mitchums that Dougie is an enemy of them and caused them to lose 30 mil on top of the 400k+ that he won in the casinos. From the Mitchums point of view he's a guy constantly up in their grill losing them money so they decide to kill him.
Dougie's boss gave him the cheque because the insurance firm had insurance on that claim or something, so the Mitchums can get their 30mil insurance claim and the insurance company is also covered. Nobody loses. The only bit I'm slightly unclear about is whether the 30 mil insurance claim is the same claim Dougie highlighted in his case files, stitching up the guy he works with.

One other thing regarding the vomiting kid in the car (can't tell if boy or girl, looks like a boy) that I haven't seen brought up, the kid has string tied around his wrists. This is exactly like how Laura was tied up, right? Clip below for reference.

https://youtu.be/n_1Jxd95o7Y


NoSleep

Quote from: Obel on July 27, 2017, 09:09:40 AM
It was the guy at Dougie's insurance firm who told the Mitchums that Dougie is an enemy of them and caused them to lose 30 mil on top of the 400k+ that he won in the casinos.

Yeah, but didn't the Vegas guy instruct the guy from Lucky 7 Insurance (the same one that "Dougie" had called a liar and therefore bore a grudge) to tell the Mitchums it was all down to Dougie? It seems to me GoodCoop (with the assistance of the Red Room) wangled getting all the credit for something the other guy from Lucky 7 Insurance had actually done the work on, simply by calling him a liar at one stage.

Obel

Quote from: NoSleep on July 27, 2017, 09:21:08 AM
Yeah, but didn't the Vegas guy instruct the guy from Lucky 7 Insurance (the same one that "Dougie" had called a liar and therefore bore a grudge) to tell the Mitchums it was all down to Dougie? It seems to me GoodCoop (with the assistance of the Red Room) wangled getting all the credit for something the other guy from Lucky 7 Insurance had actually done the work on, simply by calling him a liar at one stage.

I'd need to rewatch, I can't remember exactly. It sounds about right.

Do you think that the red room influenced Dougie to call the guy a liar just to kick off this line of events? Or did they influence him to highlight ACTUAL wrong doing? The insurance firm guy seems like a bit of a wrongun to me, so I read it as Dougie's pure, positive influence on the world. Honestly I'd be a little bit disappointed if it turned out Dougie is just turning people over!

NoSleep

I think it is triggered by GoodCoop to kick off that line of events.

The other insurance guy was justifiably upset by GoodCoop's accusation.

It does fit in with my idea that it isn't so cut and dried that there is a "good" and a "bad" Coop (we only have Annie's word). Think back to Philip Jeffries reaction to Coop in FWWM when he asks who they (Gordon & Albert) think he is.

NoSleep

#3318
Rewatched the relevant scenes and this is what I found. Ep 5: The two cases that Anthony "insurance guy" Sinclair says have to be paid up on (despite boss Mullins questioning one of them as being arson) are not related to the Mitchum brothers claim. So GoodCoop is not feathering his own nest for later and is genuinely calling out Sinclair's dishonesty.
Ep 10: Duncan has a meeting with Anthony in which he makes clear that the Mitchum brothers are his "business rivals and bitter enemies" and that he and Anthony conspired to deny their insurance claim of $30m, which he now wants Anthony to blame on Dougie Jones.
Duncan goes on to say that if Anthony fails to get the Mitchums to sort out his "Dougie Jones" problem then Anthony will have to kill Dougie himself.

So GoodCoop is still in danger, from a work colleague, but is absolved of any wrongdoing, for which I apologise to him.

BlodwynPig

Isn't it Duncan not Roger, Mr. Archon?

Twed


Mister Six


spamwangler

Quote from: Thursday on July 24, 2017, 11:56:42 PM
What I want to know is, when are we going to see 119 heroin lady again?

spinoff series where she marries dick tremane

Bhazor

I hope Lynch's Silencio club plays music like that opening track. That was great.

mjwilson

Quote from: mjwilson on July 09, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
I hope someone says the "fire walk with me" poem during this series.

guys
my wishes came true