Jurassic Park 4

[CaledonianGonzo]

This is now streaming, but just to reconfirm for anyone tempted to watch it not to bother.

It's a terrible, terrible movie.

[Obel]

I second this. Watched it last night, absolutely abysmal.

[Noodle Lizard]

The best thing about this movie is how great everyone on the YouTube and the IMDb thought it would be, and then to imagine them going to the cinema all excited and getting ... well, that.  I don't think I know anyone who liked it.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Such a mess, such a mess.  We were tired and hungover and just wanted some effort-free popcorn fare, but it doesn't even function on that basic level.

And that's before you even get onto the dropped subplots, the odd gender politics, the incoherent character motivations, the fact that the whole thing is Chris Pratt's fault in the first place.....

[Mister Six]

I think you're over-egging the violence of the Journey to the West prequel, as it's about on the level of an Indiana Jones film. The film is on youtube, so anyone who's curious can see for themselves. The films comedic tone is pretty obvious to me, as is the slapstick nature of the violence, even if you do occasionally see some blood (it's a great film by the way, if anyone fancies watching it).

What, even the bit where

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The Monkey King sadistically breaks the legs and arms of the love interest then blows her up?

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It's a level of cruelty that isn't visited on anyone in the Indy films.

It's the intersection of comedy and extreme violence that interests me. The

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dad dying in a fountain of dark red blood

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at the start is played for queasy laughs, and the film gets laughs out of the

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effete prince character

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just before we see his face and skin being turned to ash and burned away.

There's violence in the Indy films, but it's generally visited upon horrible baddies for a sense of catharsis. Only the heart-pulling scene in Temple of Doom strikes me as being directed at an innocent, and that's in a scene that's completely shorn of laughs.

Likewise, Shaolin Soccer opens with a sympathetic character having his leg cruelly broken, and there are bits in Kung Fu Hustle where Stephen Chow gets punched in the stomach and coughs up blood. There's an acceptance of casual and bloody violence in an explicitly comic setting that would never make it into an equivalent American film.

But despite your exaggerations, the real problem is you're talking about films produced in greater China, rather than imported foreign films. Not only are they treated differently, but the PRC has an import quota, which makes foreign producers err on the side of caution when making a film with an eye on the Chinese market. Let the Bullets Fly was a huge hit, but it was controversial because kids went to see it and (allegedly) were scared by some of the violence. Django Unchained however, never made it to Chinese screens, despite being a similar film in many ways.

Yes it did, albeit with cuts, but I get your point - I misinterpreted the original post. That said, there's a pretty huge difference in the level of bloodshed between Django Unchained and JPs 1, 2 and 3...

[Steven]

The best thing about this movie is how great everyone on the YouTube and the IMDb thought it would be, and then to imagine them going to the cinema all excited and getting ... well, that.  I don't think I know anyone who liked it.

The best was the massively obtuse setting up of the velociraptor trainer as a bit of an egotistical wrong `un that thought he could keep them under control. From the fucking minute he was introduced I was counting down until the scene came where he tries to control them and they eat him alive. I waited a fucking long time, but yeah, they did it after a fucking hour or more. You just keep me hanging ooooon.

[Noodle Lizard]

The best was the massively obtuse setting up of the velociraptor trainer as a bit of an egotistical wrong `un that thought he could keep them under control. From the fucking minute he was introduced I was counting down until the scene came where he tries to control them and they eat him alive. I waited a fucking long time, but yeah, they did it after a fucking hour or more. You just keep me hanging ooooon.

That bit was laugh-out-loud funny.  Where he's just casually explaining his evil plan to the others, then suddenly "Oh shit!" - a velociraptor is there.  Goes straight for him.  Just a terribly put-together scene.  That whole T-Rex/velociraptor battle at the end was a complete damp squib as well, with no less than three mind-blowingly stupid deus ex machinae.  You could clearly tell they were going for "Omg epic batlte of all dinsoarus", but it was just the worst.  Then that godawful coda ... fucking hell.  It's amazing how much they managed to screw this film up actually.

[Replies From View]

The "two many cooks" problem, I'd wager.

Use filmmakers rather than cooks to make films, lads.

[Onken]

https://vimeo.com/143563837

[Steven]

https://vimeo.com/143563837

Brilliant.

We regurgitate your memories back to you, please pay us lots of money.

[up_the_hampipe]

The best thing about this movie is how great everyone on the YouTube and the IMDb thought it would be, and then to imagine them going to the cinema all excited and getting ... well, that.  I don't think I know anyone who liked it.

I enjoyed the movie, but the Jurassic Park trilogy were my favourite films growing up so I accepted shite. The ending, however, is unforgivably atrocious. That ending should be in the bad cinema hall of fame.

[Obel]

I found the ending to be the best bit about the film. If you're going to make a dumb movie you might as well do that stupid fight, I was laughing throughout. Actually, second best bit, my favourite bit was the bored guy on the hamster ball ride. He's my favourite character trope. "Bro I'm just doing my job here"

There seemed to be scars on the T-Rex, were they implying it was the same one from the first film? If so that just makes it funnier.

[Noodle Lizard]

Actually, y'know what?  Changed my mind, best in the series.

[Mango Chimes]

https://vimeo.com/143563837

The repetition is funny, but it's damning that the new one looks worse in some direct comparisons – the colour grading on the daytime shots, and the twiddlefingers CGI hatchling versus the gooey puppet in the original.

[MoonDust]

There seemed to be scars on the T-Rex, were they implying it was the same one from the first film? If so that just makes it funnier.

Weren't the scars from fighting that T-rex/raptor hybrid? Thought that was obvious.

Anyway yes, I've just watched it for the first time this afternoon. Got all four Jurassic Park films for £20; tonight I'm watching the first one for the first time in years!

I liked number 4. I was always sceptical, but it was pretty decent I thought.

A few too many clichés and painful one-liners and other cheesy moments, but overall it was thoroughly entertaining. Corny as it was I liked the whole raptor whisperer angle and the raptors being on the human's side for once.

[Glebe]

*bump*

Anyone else aware of this?

Jurrasic World deleted dino poop scene.

Yeech. It feels quite creepy the way Bryce Dallas Howard is acting all sexy while smearing shit on herself. As the comments below point up, it feels like scat porn. Somebody must have given the director a sideways look in the editing room and said, "Mate..."[nb]Actually, he probably didn't say, "Mate," because America. He prolly said, "Buddy," or summit.[/nb]

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Why do Americans insist on calling poo "poop"?  Annoying.

[Kane Jones]

Why do Americans insist on calling poo "poop"?  Annoying.

My wife has started doing this on a few Facebook forums about Malamutes we belong to when she wants to talk about the texture, colour and consistency of our dog's turds. Mainly because the majority of the posters are Americans. It is very annoying.

[Cerys]

I have now, finally, seen this film.

I'm betting that they spliced a Raptor with a T-rex, and that an ordinary T-rex will save the day, in a turnaround of a similar moment in Alien Resurrection - instead of the Newborn killing the Queen, the T-rex will kill the Newborn species.

Just reminding myself of this.  That's all.

[Custard]

The fifth film is going ahead, then. Filming now

Called Jurassic Bum, or something

[Replies From View]

The fifth film is going ahead, then. Filming now

They are idiots to start it so late at night.  It's dark and pissing it down with rain.

They should go to bed, get some sleep, come to it fresh in the morning.