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The Old Skool Hardcore/Rave Tune Dumping Ground Thread-a-Go-Go

Started by Puffin Chunks, February 19, 2013, 01:18:21 AM

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monkfromhavana


Puffin Chunks

Yeah, I've procured all the Splice tracks and I thought that those piano breaks might make a good jumping off point for an EP of some kind. I'll probably post some of the tracks when I've familiarised myself with them a bit more.

But for now..... It's time for:





Mixcloud page:
http://bit.ly/12sK2vK

320kbps MP3 for CD burning[nb]Went with MP3 this time as I'm running out of space on Dropbox. 17 separate files, so if you are burning to CD make sure to select "disc-at-once" in your favourite burning software to eliminate gaps[/nb] and posterity keeping:
http://bit.ly/12nhPL7

Now just to do the clusterfuck that is going to be Vol. 3, which will be the final volume for the first page. I'll try to take a different approach with the next page, by doing all the mixes at once, so hopefully I don't run into the same sort of problems that I'm going to have with the last disc.

Verbcore - The First Page Vol. 1 can be found here:
http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,34973.msg1948372.html#msg1948372

monkfromhavana

These mixes should feature on CaB radio - that would be cracking.

Puffin Chunks

It would be, but then I'd have to do the talking and I'm not really up for that. Plus, outside of this thread, I'm not sure that it would have very wide appeal.

monkfromhavana

Quote from: Puffin Chunks on June 28, 2013, 04:24:12 PM
It would be, but then I'd have to do the talking and I'm not really up for that. Plus, outside of this thread, I'm not sure that it would have very wide appeal.

Even if they were just put on as "filler" mixes between shows or dead air. A kind of mental old skool rave equivalent of the testcard muzak.

monkfromhavana

I love The KLF - the overblow pomp of their "Stadium House Trilogy", the lovely "Chill Out" album.

This tune does it for me though. From the "White Room" album, it's actually just a decent breakbeat tune with great pads and acid lines..

The KLF - Make It Rain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJ6iDgwn7o

Puffin Chunks

The White Room is a great album. There's always been a feeling amongst hardcore KLF fans that that album was a sell out given their more stripped down trancey tracks that were reworked for the album. I find that a very hard opinion to buy into, to be honest, given their approach to music and the industry in general.

That said, I always preferred the Pure Trance Original Mix of 3AM Eternal, especially when it's sped up a bit to get it a bit more pumping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiE3bgL7oww

To try to pull it back towards hardcore, I'm going to talk about another of my favourite outfits, Liquid. Definitely not on the harder edge of hardcore, they're perhaps most famous for the anthemic Sweet Harmony. Whilst not strictly being a hardcore track imho, it always seemed to get (massively over)played. I never really understood why it was such an anthem given that it was just a re-working of Ce Ce Rogers - Someday (also sampled for Some Justice by Urban Shakedown), and to be honest I've never cared too much for it. However Liquid also created one of my favourite albums in Culture which was a progressive house album... and I speak as someone who doesn't really have a lot of love for house music. It's very much got a mid-90's vibe, but I still love that album.

Anyway, their earlier stuff was more in the hardcore realm, although perhaps on the softer side.

This was the much less played but a lot more hardcore version of Sweet Harmony (Remix). I love the heavy break on this but it definitely loses a lot of the essence of the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvrXKmsI1wY

And from the same EP this is Feel 3. A slightly less characteristically darker track from Liquid with lovely rolling beats and sped up "make me feel good" vocals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xTolIQ25s

Phog, from the same EP was more traditionally hardcore, but that was mentioned on page 1, so I'll skip that.

The House (Is a Feeling) single was a lot softer, but I'd still put it in the hardcore bracket. I preferred playing it at 45rpm to be honest. A great chilled hardcore track though and (despite the name) definitely not house, but with some fairly large trance influences in there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDiZxyKh_EE

And the flip side, the more uplifting piano breaks of The Year 3000:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM7vkzuQuxk

More Piano breaks from their 1992 track Music but with a more traditional minor chord riff later in the tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTyFeZr3Qz8

Liquid is Liquid made it on to the Culture album, but a remix of the track appeared on the Future Music EP (along with Music, The Year 3000 and House (Is a Feeling)). I think I prefer the original mix, but the harder break makes it more playable in a hardcore set. Ratpack released a version of this which is just this remix with him MCing over the top. It is far better in it's original form. This got a lot of air play at hardcore raves back in the day. A dark and sinister track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBgQ9frFjFo

Liquid then started to move into a more housey direction with tracks like Time to Get Up, Show Me a Sign and Track 9 (Deep Inside of Me). Whilst still great tracks and worth checking out, they probably have no real place in this thread.

And I'm going to chuck one more Liquid track on here. It's not strictly hardcore, but it's got a really nice heavy break, and its 303 style b-line is the thing of dreams. Interference puts me heavily in mind of Satan by Orbital which came out 2 years prior to this track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXBJWA00X1k

monkfromhavana

Liquid were OK - Liquid Is Liquid is an amazing tune. Sweet Harmony is OK, and the only other tunes I had any time for were Phog & music. He still makes tunes now as part of the Slipmatt/Billy Bunter cabal, but mainly he lives in Rome and writes PR/reviews etc. Manages online content or something like that.

Puffin Chunks

#158
Screw letting this thread die yet. There are still so many great tracks to be posted.... It's hot and it's Friday night.

SL2 - DJs Take Control - Heavily sampling the classic Let The Music (Use You) by The Night Writers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJr8-xZo40I

The Brothers Grimm - Exodus (Lion Awakes) - Heavily sampling Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPnoX9Xpjw

Hyper on Experience - Imajika - We came here tonight to get started, to cold act ill or get retarded... underground.... underground.... underground
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5mN8Zu9B34

Rhythm for Reasons - Music in Search of The Light - And a bit of DJ SS darkness from '93 to round it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ypnZMLkrkI

Artemis

I'm loving this thread and the 'new' music I'm discovering through it.

Can I offer this?

Warren G (Featuring Stewart Who) - Twisted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2asbuFaJ0U

monkfromhavana


Bobby Treetops

Yet more fine choices monkfromhavana especially The House Crew - The Theme (Ozomatli Remix) it's probably been 20 years since I last heard this. I was unsurprised to find out this was released on Production House, a label I always keep an eye out for when I'm 2nd hand record shopping.

Has this one come up yet?

Sudden Def - Madness To My Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrSsn5B3ecs

monkfromhavana

Quote from: Bobby Treetops on August 02, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
Yet more fine choices monkfromhavana especially The House Crew - The Theme (Ozomatli Remix) it's probably been 20 years since I last heard this. I was unsurprised to find out this was released on Production House, a label I always keep an eye out for when I'm 2nd hand record shopping.

Has this one come up yet?

Sudden Def - Madness To My Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrSsn5B3ecs

It has now. I actually prefer that version of "The Theme" to the original, which was quite popular due to it's reversed bassline.

Here's a bit of Prisoner Cell Block H sampling goodness

Intense - Jock's Nightmare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5SsOe7jcWA

Bobby Treetops

Talking of the Production House label, I picked this up from a charity shop for a quid a couple of years ago.

DMS - Exterminate (Day Of The Hardcore)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OamwmcGuP0A

One of the few records I can think of that sample the Daleks and Derrick May.

monkfromhavana

I've probably posted this before but I do not give one solitary fuck. For me, there is an untouchable group of producer - The Prodigy, Acen (& Floyd Dyce), Criminal Minds, Hyper On Experience, 4 Hero.

Vying for top spot with Hyper On are the mighty, mighty Sub-Love.

Check this tune out - with it's overblown rock guitar sample, it's almost 94-esque Prodigy style beat and it's vocal breakdown which is immense. Plus the scratching, the electro beat

Sub-Love - Change My Ways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfcrwmSIRUI

Viero_Berlotti

If you've got nothing better to do, treat yourself to a listen to this 1994 Carl Cox Radio 1 Essential mix:

https://soundcloud.com/everybodywantstobethedj/carl-cox-essential-mix-1994-10

Carl Cox at his imperious best on three turntables. Mind blowing stuff.


boki

Been meaning to post this for a while - some new old-skool from possibly Derbyshire's nicest man, The Courier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOeswRfN4K0

BlodwynPig

Again, not hardcore really, but a very classy tune - a one off I believe as I can't find anything but a lone EP by them.

Subway Grand Master - Marble Arch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7y2-BTz9s

monkfromhavana

Sounds remarkably like Lone - Angel Brain that came out a few years back.




Bobby Treetops

#172
^Wow, I can't remember these two records from back in the day but they just demonstrate how good the 91 to 93 hardcore period was, with so many mental records.

I'm currently reading Energy Flash by Simon Reynold[nb]Great read[nb]So far[/nb][/nb] and he compares the hardcore scene to 60s Garage e.g. young kids making cheap but brilliant records outside the mainstream in their bedrooms/garages. And a much like hardcore, a lot of 60s garage were just ripped off other records out at the same time. It's no coincidence that I love both genres of music.

Here's some Bizzy B (and friends)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvz5GxqLAMk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3NiJngmhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3NiJngmhI

This one's going out to the Emmerdale massive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAPpp5ipn8

monkfromhavana

Energy Flash is a great book -you can really feel his love for the music and the pirate radio of the era. The later chapters were ok but I just feel that all the UK Garage stuff didn't really have a lot of depth. It was just a bunch of DnB producers trying to get some money and get laid.

monkfromhavana


Junglist

I heartily recommend this to all. The History of DnB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZNuq04b0U

All the classics mixed into an hour long mix. Can be downloaded from dnbshare.

Bobby Treetops

Quote from: monkfromhavana on September 18, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Gutted this didn't get played when Maggie carked it


V.I.M. - Maggie's Last Party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1opP7tNLzg

This, strangely enough, this used to sometimes get an airing in Carlisle's premier shit indie disco the Twisted Wheel. It was the only Hardcore track I ever heard played out in Carlisle, in my three and a half years of living up there.

Edit - Oh yeah, apart from Prodigy - Charly Says and Baby D's Let me By Your Fantasy. I used to tape loads of Pirate Stations when I was back home in London to keep me going through term time[nb]My mum throw them all away about ten years ago. Over five plastic bags full of pirate radio, mix tapes and John Peel shows, because 'no one listens to cassette tapes anymore'.
Spoiler alert
Bitch
[close]
[/nb]


monkfromhavana

Great tracks!

In unrelated news, the guy who used to promote the huge illegal raves in 1988-90 (Sunrise, Apocalypse Now, Tony Colston-Hayter, has been nicked and charged with stealing 1.3 million quid from Barclays. He was the same guy who handcuffed himself to Jonathan Ross on the chat show and threw water over him.

monkfromhavana

Hardcore Rhythm Team - Ragga Clash (top rave-meets-ragga-meets theme from Emmerdale)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAPpp5ipn8

Hardcore Rhythm Team - Make Some Noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHa1bSi2iag

Gotta love the "Milton Keynes make some NOISE" sample!