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The Old Skool Hardcore/Rave Tune Dumping Ground Thread-a-Go-Go

Started by Puffin Chunks, February 19, 2013, 01:18:21 AM

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monkfromhavana

Quote from: Better Midlands on January 28, 2020, 02:19:43 PM
It's "people are passing" or "people are crossing" apparently, I can't believe that the synth riff at 15s hasn't been identified, sounds like an eighties Latin Freestyle sample.

It's 'People are crossing" - was confirmed by Travis himself.

monkfromhavana

Nice bit of spooky, compilation-only drum 'n' bass from 1996. Love the THX 1138 samples:

Phume - So Many Times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEO_qhvYiII

monkfromhavana

Fantastic 1994 track, love the Frankie Goes To Hollywood sample. The type of track that was a bit slept on because it was classed as happy hardcore even though there's nary a 4/4 kick, stab pattern or big piano line present.

DJ Demo - The Power Of Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow7_9aasDlc

monkfromhavana

Rather than listening to one mix a DJ on the bus home from work, I've been listening to mixes a plenty working from home (today saw Peshay, Stu Allan, Justin Berkmann & Colin Dale get an airing)

Anyway, on one set from DJ Luke yesterday, this one stuck out. No clue what it was, but the old skool group on facebook IDed it for me

Redshift - Sweat And Groove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Tiloe9u1Y

monkfromhavana

Fantastic track from Hula & Fingers before they became the Outhere Brothers. Kid of a cross between Fast Eddie & Strings Of Life

Da Posse - Strings (Break It)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQWX0zg0yDg

BlodwynPig

I feel sorry for you ploughing this now lonely furrow, but its appreciated!

Here's one I am listening to right now

K.C.C. - Euro-X-Press

stranger

Quote from: monkfromhavana on August 26, 2019, 08:31:11 PM
Two books to be made aware of.

1: Marshall Jefferson: Diary of a DJ

An OK read, you get all the stories about the beginning's of house music. I found to be quite poorly written though, and seems to just become a disparate list of events and stories rather than complete narrative. It needed better proof-reading as characters are introduced twice and some stories are partially told twice. The printing is also pretty poor, with entire sections being repeated throughout the last 3rd of the book which really throws you off. All-in-all, worth buying if you're interested in the early days of house in Chicago, some good stories, but don't expect too much of a quality product.

2: DJ Phantasy:  Three Generations Deep

This is pre-order at the moment with shipping at the end of September, could be quite good.

Have you read Phantasy's book yet? I thought it was alright. The earlier years were much more interesting to me than the recent SASASAS stuff. He was never really a DJ I actively sought out, I'd always go straight for the Ratty, Easygroove or Carl Cox tapes in a new tape pack before he got a look in! It was an interesting read though and I wasn't aware how much behind the scenes stuff he was involved in.

I've got that Marshall Jefferson book but haven't read it yet. Currently about halfway through "Join The Future" which is all about early 90s bleep techno in Sheffield / Leeds etc... It's very thorough and I'm enjoying it a lot. Reminds me a bit of that recent Jeremy Deller doc as it goes into detail about the social / political situation at the time.

https://velocitypress.uk/product/join-the-future-book/

#607
Quote from: monkfromhavana on April 17, 2020, 09:45:59 PM
Fantastic track from Hula & Fingers before they became the Outhere Brothers. Kid of a cross between Fast Eddie & Strings Of Life

Da Posse - Strings (Break It)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQWX0zg0yDg

That's nice, haven't heard it years. I used play this mix of Searchin Hard from '89, kinda garage vocal over slamming stabs and beats

Quote from: stranger on April 18, 2020, 11:43:06 AM
Have you read Phantasy's book yet? I thought it was alright. The earlier years were much more interesting to me than the recent SASASAS stuff. He was never really a DJ I actively sought out, I'd always go straight for the Ratty, Easygroove or Carl Cox tapes in a new tape pack before he got a look in! It was an interesting read though and I wasn't aware how much behind the scenes stuff he was involved in.

I've got that Marshall Jefferson book but haven't read it yet. Currently about halfway through "Join The Future" which is all about early 90s bleep techno in Sheffield / Leeds etc... It's very thorough and I'm enjoying it a lot. Reminds me a bit of that recent Jeremy Deller doc as it goes into detail about the social / political situation at the time.

https://velocitypress.uk/product/join-the-future-book/

DJ Phantasy was a big producer at the time, more so than a DJ I'd say.

That Join The Future book looks really good, I'm a big fan of that sound, especially Rob Gordon - his mix of Take Me Back is a favourite.

Ability II - Pressure Dub is bleep/dub techno from 1990

monkfromhavana

Re: Books

Join The Future is probably one of the best books about dance music that there is. Properly researched, interesting and sheds light on areas of dance music not covered before. I'd always thought of bleep as a Sheffield thing, but Leeds and Bradford played just as big a role.

Phantasy's book is good, but like you Stranger, I found the later chapters something of a grind.

DJ Rap's book - the first third is pretty good, after that it's all about her move to America, the house scene there etc. I packed up on it, but if you're into that, it's worth a read.

Jumping Jack Frost's - pretty good

Uncle Dugs - Hampered by the fact that he was really just a pirate DJ and raver until relatively recently. It's more of a party goers tale than anything, and the pirate chapters were hard for me to relate to, what with not coming from London.

Bunter's book is great, Mark Archer's book is fantastic, Luna-C's book is even better.

If you can find it, Terry "Rise of the Foot Soldier" Turbo's book is pretty good, apart from when it occasionally delves into wannabe gangster territory.

Class of '88 is great, and can be found on PDF online.

Not read MC Flux's book, but the preview I read online seemed to be mainly about how many women he'd had sex with. The chapters about his football hooliganism and decent into heroin addiction might be a bit fruitier, but I'm guessing that actual music side of the story is probably pretty dull.

monkfromhavana

Quote from: BlodwynPig on April 18, 2020, 10:57:40 AM
I feel sorry for you ploughing this now lonely furrow, but its appreciated!

Here's one I am listening to right now

K.C.C. - Euro-X-Press

Liked that one, but I suspect for me it'd be a track that I'd appreciate more being played over a loud sound system rather than stuck here in the living room with headphones on.

Although it's a lonely furrow, it's always nice to hear tracks that I haven't heard before that the likes of you, The, Stranger and BetterMidlands post. I'll keep on pumping the occasional tune onto the thread to keep it active.

Quote from: stranger on April 18, 2020, 11:43:06 AM
Have you read Phantasy's book yet? I thought it was alright. The earlier years were much more interesting to me than the recent SASASAS stuff. He was never really a DJ I actively sought out, I'd always go straight for the Ratty, Easygroove or Carl Cox tapes in a new tape pack before he got a look in! It was an interesting read though and I wasn't aware how much behind the scenes stuff he was involved in.

I'm the same, and to be honest, I've never been that keen on any of his production either. The likes of 'Hippodrome' and 'Ruff Beats' are...ok, but I doubt very much whether they would be my top 250 tracks from that period.

Quote from: Better Midlands on April 18, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
That's nice, haven't heard it years. I used play this mix of Searchin Hard from '89, kinda garage vocal over slamming stabs and beats

Didn't know much about Republic Records, so I've had a listen to quite a few of the tracks over the past couple of days. Aside from the Adonte release, the M-D-Emm and Da Posse stuff I found the rest to be a bit meh.

I am always turned against any house label where there are seemingly 37 remixes of a single track that all pretty much sound exactly the same and have interchangeable mix names (E.G. 'Instrumental Club Mix' followed by the 'Club Dub Mix' followed by the 'Instrumental Dub Mix').

Anyway, this was the other one that stood out (also by Da Posse)

The Groove (Bass & Treble Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioOTTXrvRAE

Starlit

I probably don't have more than four or five tunes by him, so hardly a huge fan, but DJ Phantasy was responsible for DJ's Unite along with DJ Seduction. Deservedly huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=138&v=Syc5RBvS6wA&feature=emb_logo

Despite seeing those Da Posse records many times over the years, I don't think that I've ever listened to them. I'll definitely be seeking them out now, so thanks to those who posted them up.

monkfromhavana

Quote from: Starlit on April 18, 2020, 03:09:25 PM
I probably don't have more than four or five tunes by him, so hardly a huge fan, but DJ Phantasy was responsible for DJ's Unite along with DJ Seduction. Deservedly huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=138&v=Syc5RBvS6wA&feature=emb_logo

Despite seeing those Da Posse records many times over the years, I don't think that I've ever listened to them. I'll definitely be seeking them out now, so thanks to those who posted them up.

You're right, I forgot the DJs Unite tracks. For me his best tracks and Vol.1 is a deserved anthem.

Starlit

This thread has reminded me of a few books that I'd been meaning to read, so I just went looking for them.
Music Mondays has a sale on at the moment, and most of these books are as cheap as they're ever likely to be
https://www.musicmondays.co.uk/group/books


hummingofevil

Only because I am pissed and bored (and loving this shit) I have started putting together a YouTube playlist of every track in this thread that has not been removed by YouTube. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apt5l2Uzets&list=PLSLhyaycwwGHsh9NzsxsdHlVZIsiV6id4

Please let me know if that works and doesn't just link to the one track.

hummingofevil

I've done the first 7 pages and an exhausted. :) More next week. x Edit: I think I need to go listen to Taylor Swift.

BlodwynPig

Thanks for this - although I'll skip the prodigy ones.

Quote from: monkfromhavana on April 18, 2020, 02:26:03 PM
Didn't know much about Republic Records, so I've had a listen to quite a few of the tracks over the past couple of days. Aside from the Adonte release, the M-D-Emm and Da Posse stuff I found the rest to be a bit meh.

It's Jeoy Negro's (Dave Lee) record label and mostly licensed NY tracks from 88/89. Turntable Orchestra - You're Gonna Miss Me and Phase II - Reachin' are excellent garage/New Jersey tracks and were both massive at the time.

Raven Maize - Forever Together produced by Lee is a banger but essentially a remix of Exodus - Together Forever, which is a fabulous disco track.

Dave Lee's done a lot of good stuff over the years and is still producing now, he also produced Take That's cover of Relight My Fire.

DJ's Unite is a classic, didn't realise it was another Ron Wells job.
Interesting Jay Cunning interview with DJ Phantasy from February on YouTube.


imitationleather

Mate of mine did a pretty good old skool hardcore mix on Facebook last night: https://www.facebook.com/threadsradio/videos/2570360186510094

Good for a sunny day, like.

monkfromhavana


BlodwynPig


stranger

Quote from: monkfromhavana on April 18, 2020, 02:03:09 PM
Re: Books

Bunter's book is great, Mark Archer's book is fantastic, Luna-C's book is even better.

If you can find it, Terry "Rise of the Foot Soldier" Turbo's book is pretty good, apart from when it occasionally delves into wannabe gangster territory.

Not read MC Flux's book, but the preview I read online seemed to be mainly about how many women he'd had sex with. The chapters about his football hooliganism and decent into heroin addiction might be a bit fruitier, but I'm guessing that actual music side of the story is probably pretty dull.

Out of all the Music Mondays books I enjoyed the Mark Archer one the most. Interesting stories and he just comes across as a decent person. They're all worth a read though.

I've read Flux's book too but can't remember much about it so it couldn't have made that much of an impression.

It's been years since I read Terry Turbo's book. There's a story in there about a couple of "crackheads" (a DJ & MC) having a fight at (Dreamscape) Murray Beetson's funeral. I don't think he named them but I always assumed he was talking about Easygroove and Robbie Dee. Do you remember that story or know who he was talking about? Always been curious about that.

monkfromhavana

Quote from: stranger on April 20, 2020, 10:41:23 AM
Out of all the Music Mondays books I enjoyed the Mark Archer one the most. Interesting stories and he just comes across as a decent person. They're all worth a read though.

I've read Flux's book too but can't remember much about it so it couldn't have made that much of an impression.

It's been years since I read Terry Turbo's book. There's a story in there about a couple of "crackheads" having a fight at (Dreamscape) Murray Beetson's funeral. I don't think he named them but I always assumed he was talking about Easygroove and Robbie Dee. Do you remember that story or know who he was talking about? Always been curious about that.

Yeah, that's who I assumed it to be as well.

He also talks about a couple of promoters who blamed him for having their office torched - he then mentions that he sold One Nation to them, so he's on about DJ Red Alert & Mike Slammer (Slammin' Vinyl).

He has just premiered his rave documentary as well, so that might be worth a watch. It said it's going to be released in cinemas, but that probably means 2 local cinemas in Barking rather than being rolled out nationwide at IMAXs.

Blodders, not even these?

Weather Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNl2pWYYjpw

Android
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybm8s0DFeB0

Pandemonium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNNw9EEVoM

BlodwynPig

Their Law from this compilation is the only track I have in my collection - and that is enjoyable in mid-90s sort of way.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Taking-Liberties/master/19875

stranger

A couple of other interesting things I've listened to recently:

Jay Cunning interview with the Production House crew (Floyd Dice, Acen & MC Micro). The mic levels are a bit up and down but there's some good stories in there.

www.mixcloud.com/jaycunningdj/production-house-interview-acen-the-house-crew-mc-micro/

Early recording of an Essex pirate radio station from April 1990, featuring DJ Vibes (when he was known as Navigator). Bleepy / acid / early hardcore stuff and I only recognised a handful of the tunes. The mixing is pretty horrendous at times (who knows what equipment they were using back then) but it's an interesting snapshot of the time.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbhNdbkAjC0

Lenny Dee & MC Stevie Hyper D @ Sterns, 1992. I listened to a Lenny Dee interview recently and he was speaking fondly about various events he played in the UK back in the day including Sterns. What I found interesting about this set is hearing Stevie Hyper D (who went on to become a huge name in Drum & Bass before he died) MCing over a banging techno set like this :-D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQT-yC7ID8A

the

If I was going to throw a solid Prodigy track into the ring it'd be

Rhythm Of Life

monkfromhavana

Quote from: stranger on April 20, 2020, 12:55:02 PM

Early recording of an Essex pirate radio station from April 1990, featuring DJ Vibes (when he was known as Navigator). Bleepy / acid / early hardcore stuff and I only recognised a handful of the tunes. The mixing is pretty horrendous at times (who knows what equipment they were using back then) but it's an interesting snapshot of the time.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbhNdbkAjC0

That's cool, Elite was Vibes' own station. He used to play soul on there under the name Sir Vibes, largely playing whatever he could find in the bargain buckets in record shops. Station was ran out of the garage in his parent's house (they had moved back to Ireland). It ended up getting raided and Vibes got a substantial fine that he paid off at a rate of something like £20 a week.