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« Reply #570 on: March 27, 2019, 10:21:14 PM »
However, I do like the fact they at least managed to get Brody to make three distinct expressions, while giving the designer just the single Willis scowl to work with.

I imagine that Bruce Willis refused to have more than one photo taken during the poster shoot.  That's exactly the sort of thing that he'd do, given the 'I don't give a shit.  Fuck you' attitude that he's been sporting for near enough two decades now.  It's only his ego that won't allow him to do the decent thing and retire.

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« Reply #571 on: March 27, 2019, 11:13:36 PM »
That film screams "money laundering front"

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« Reply #572 on: March 28, 2019, 01:49:59 AM »
I imagine that Bruce Willis refused to have more than one photo taken during the poster shoot.  That's exactly the sort of thing that he'd do, given the 'I don't give a shit.  Fuck you' attitude that he's been sporting for near enough two decades now.  It's only his ego that won't allow him to do the decent thing and retire.

And I bet some fans were waiting outside the shoot and he forced a smile for them and muttered something about having to pretend to be nice nowadays.

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« Reply #573 on: March 30, 2019, 03:22:51 AM »
I can't but wonder what the fuck happened to Willis - time was, he was forever barely holding back a wise-assy smirk no matter what he was doing; now, he has a permanent dead-eyed glumness about him, a real I'd-rather-be-anywhere-else-right-now demeanor that's swallowed up even the sorts of parts he'd have bebopped through 15, 20 years ago. I mean, was working with Kevin Smith so unbearable that it ruined screen acting for him for good?

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« Reply #574 on: March 30, 2019, 04:11:30 AM »
Everything about that poster is wrong. It's presumably based on the Bombing of Chongqing by the Japanese, which started in 1938 (the film is apparently set in 1940, but the opening of the film shows the first raid happening in 1937). The planes on the poster are Vought F4U Corsairs, which were only released to squadron service in 1942 (in the film the American Volunteer Group pilots in the CAF are shown flying the Curtiss P40 Warhawk, which is correct for the period).

Willis' character is loosely based on General Claire Lee Chennault, the commander of the AVG. He never had a beard, and it was against the USAAF regulations to grow one.

It changed title to Air Strike for the US market, but the posteer isn't much better:

Willis should also be wearing Command Pilot wings, not Senior Pilot wings.

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« Reply #575 on: March 30, 2019, 09:06:33 AM »
However, I do like the fact they at least managed to get Brody to make three distinct expressions, while giving the designer just the single Willis scowl to work with.

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« Reply #576 on: March 30, 2019, 10:38:07 AM »
I can't but wonder what the fuck happened to Willis - time was, he was forever barely holding back a wise-assy smirk no matter what he was doing; now, he has a permanent dead-eyed glumness about him, a real I'd-rather-be-anywhere-else-right-now demeanor that's swallowed up even the sorts of parts he'd have bebopped through 15, 20 years ago. I mean, was working with Kevin Smith so unbearable that it ruined screen acting for him for good?

All the money in the world + ego beyond belief + complacency + aged bastard = Bruce Willis.

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« Reply #577 on: March 30, 2019, 11:31:36 AM »
And another. Something tells me the pilots on the right and left aren't in the film.



This one genuinely made me howl with laughter. Fuck, Hollywood film posters are absolutely abysmal.

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« Reply #578 on: March 30, 2019, 11:50:27 AM »
This one genuinely made me howl with laughter. Fuck, Hollywood film posters are absolutely abysmal.

It's a great shame.  Posters in the 80's were generally fantastic.  At what point did the publicity people decide 'yeah, let's stop making good things'?

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« Reply #579 on: March 30, 2019, 12:35:37 PM »
At what point did the publicity people decide 'yeah, let's stop making good things'?

Photoshop, init. Why pay somebody with skill, when you can knock up a basic image in half an hour?

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« Reply #580 on: March 30, 2019, 12:36:57 PM »
It's a great shame.  Posters in the 80's were generally fantastic.  At what point did the publicity people decide 'yeah, let's stop making good things'?

I can't answer for Hollywood but I will say that I've lost various commissions for bands' album covers & posters to graphic designers doing quick Photoshop collage jobs because nobody wants to pay for all the hours it takes an artist to design & draw/paint a publishable-quality piece by hand.  I've had excited & enthusiastic potential clients just dropping all communication with me as soon as I give them a minimum quote for what they're asking. By a week later I'll see they've got a new single out with cover art that could have been done by a first-year A-Level graphic design student - and probably was, in exchange for "exposure".

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« Reply #581 on: March 30, 2019, 12:41:35 PM »
I can't answer for Hollywood but I will say that I've lost various commissions for bands' album covers & posters to graphic designers doing quick Photoshop collage jobs because nobody wants to pay for all the hours it takes an artist to design & draw/paint a publishable-quality piece by hand.  I've had excited & enthusiastic potential clients just dropping all communication with me as soon as I give them a minimum quote for what they're asking. By a week later I'll see they've got a new single out with cover art that could have been done by a first-year A-Level graphic design student - and probably was, in exchange for "exposure".

I have a feeling you may enjoy this subreddit.

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« Reply #582 on: March 31, 2019, 03:15:47 AM »
I can't answer for Hollywood but I will say that I've lost various commissions for bands' album covers & posters to graphic designers doing quick Photoshop collage jobs because nobody wants to pay for all the hours it takes an artist to design & draw/paint a publishable-quality piece by hand.  I've had excited & enthusiastic potential clients just dropping all communication with me as soon as I give them a minimum quote for what they're asking. By a week later I'll see they've got a new single out with cover art that could have been done by a first-year A-Level graphic design student - and probably was, in exchange for "exposure".

The difference being that Hollywood movies have a promotion budget in the millions.  Still, I suppose that it could scale.  "Let's pay a million and save a million".  That doesn't really explain why posters were artful in the the past, mind.

Thinking about it, perhaps it was simply a ripple effect born from the invention of Photoshop.  A new generation of poster creators, raised on Photoshop.  A lost art.

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« Reply #583 on: March 31, 2019, 04:25:39 PM »
Part of it is, I think, that a film's branding does't remain constant. There is a certain amount - most commonly the film's logo, how the title is written, that sort of thing. But there can be several posters, and the elements which do or don't transfer across poster formats etc., who decides that? I could easily see the studios being happy to let the exhibitors have the responsibility (and the cost) of doing so, especially how much of the gross they get.

Plus there's the variation across territories. Where posters either aren't available, or are amended to better suit the local market (or pander to local prejudices), or are ignored completely. Meaning you get examples like the Twelve Years A Slave poster from Italy which is just a big picture of Brad Pitt, or all those homemade posters from Ghana or Poland or Turkey or India (etc.).

Faced with all that, it doesn't really surprise me that inept Photoshops and collages have become the norm. Sure there are lots of talented artists out there, but they often want to put their own spin on things. Here's one (historic) example:



It's terrific - but does it really match the look or content of the film?

Then there are some artists who're doing fan art but are now getting proper work from studios, like Matt Ferguson (https://twitter.com/Cakes_Comics)...

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« Reply #584 on: April 01, 2019, 06:56:02 PM »
I think they tried to cram too much in here. And I don't remember him skiing in a tuxedo. Tonally, the movie is quite different from the fun smirkfest suggested in the below. But I can understand them throwing everything at the wall to get punters in the door.


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« Reply #585 on: April 01, 2019, 07:30:12 PM »


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« Reply #586 on: April 01, 2019, 11:02:07 PM »
The Tuxedo is a required element of Bond posters. You Only Live Twice would have you believe he flew Little Nellie wearing one; Moonraker, that he had one on under a space suit (that he didn’t wear in the film either).

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« Reply #587 on: April 01, 2019, 11:22:41 PM »
The Tuxedo is a required element of Bond posters. You Only Live Twice would have you believe he flew Little Nellie wearing one; Moonraker, that he had one on under a space suit (that he didn’t wear in the film either).

The problem is that it stretches the suspension of one's disbelief beyond breaking point.  I can accept a lot of nonsense in action film posters but the laws of physics and aerodynamics dictate that it's literally impossible for a man to ski whilst wearing a tuxedo.

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« Reply #588 on: April 02, 2019, 01:14:19 AM »
That poster tells me everything I need to know - Bond is a daft load of shit for nerks.

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« Reply #589 on: April 02, 2019, 10:46:22 PM »
The problem is that it stretches the suspension of one's disbelief beyond breaking point.  I can accept a lot of nonsense in action film posters but the laws of physics and aerodynamics dictate that it's literally impossible for a man to ski whilst wearing a tuxedo.

Anything is possible.

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« Reply #590 on: April 03, 2019, 12:11:29 AM »
Anything is possible.

Well, of course one can ski naked.  One can also ski in any form of clothing, up to and including a full suit of medieval knight's armour.  One however, simply cannot ski in a tuxedo.  It simply cannot be done.

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« Reply #591 on: April 03, 2019, 02:00:01 PM »
Steady on there, Captain Subjective. Objectively, you are wrong.

https://youtu.be/ujgZ5qAcPBQ

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« Reply #592 on: April 03, 2019, 03:16:15 PM »
Steady on there, Captain Subjective. Objectively, you are wrong.

https://youtu.be/ujgZ5qAcPBQ

Those are ski suits with tuxedos painted on them.  That's not the same thing at all.  It is impossible to ski whilst wearing an actual tuxedo.  Objective fact.

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« Reply #593 on: April 03, 2019, 05:27:54 PM »
Please stop saying tuxedo.

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« Reply #594 on: April 03, 2019, 06:56:06 PM »
Those are ski suits with tuxedos painted on them.  That's not the same thing at all.  It is impossible to ski whilst wearing an actual tuxedo.  Objective fact.

I once went skiing wearing a suit jacket.  Just didn't fancy following the rule that you have to look like a Minsk factory worker from the '80s just 'cause you're up a mountain.  So long as there isn't too much wind, it can actually be relatively warm up there in the sun.

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« Reply #596 on: May 27, 2019, 07:19:03 AM »
That poster is captivating me, mate.

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« Reply #597 on: May 27, 2019, 10:03:45 AM »
It’s an odd film. Be a good future CaB Film Club contender.

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« Reply #598 on: June 12, 2019, 01:13:18 AM »


Please get that as far away from me as possible.

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« Reply #599 on: June 12, 2019, 01:54:19 AM »
Can't wait to see the new Spider-Man movie titled IMAX.