Author Topic: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?  (Read 194849 times)

Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2460 on: March 08, 2019, 01:26:30 PM »
Watched that a few weeks ago and cried a wee bit at the end when Lisa hugs Bart because of how fucking brilliant it is.

Not sure how to feel about this decision so think I'll just not think about it.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2461 on: March 08, 2019, 02:02:20 PM »
The producers have decided to pull the Michael Jackson episode from distribution in all mediums, following the recent documentary:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-simpsons-michael-jackson-removed-20190307-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Michael Jackson wasn't even it though, it was some guy called John Jay Smith.

Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2462 on: March 08, 2019, 02:19:16 PM »
The joke in Bart Sells His Soul where Bart says a soul is something made up to scare kids "like the Boogeyman or Michael Jackson" is the joke that Bart thought MJ was made up, or that the allegations were made up? Or is the genius that it can (or could) play both ways?

Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2463 on: March 08, 2019, 02:28:10 PM »
Michael Jackson wasn't even it though, it was some guy called John Jay Smith.

That was a pseudonym I think. On the commentary on the dvds the writers/producers talk about the secrecy around getting MJ in to do the voice. Unless they were joking of course.


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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2464 on: March 08, 2019, 02:46:26 PM »
The joke in Bart Sells His Soul where Bart says a soul is something made up to scare kids "like the Boogeyman or Michael Jackson" is the joke that Bart thought MJ was made up, or that the allegations were made up? Or is the genius that it can (or could) play both ways?

I thought it was because he was a creepy-looking invention of the press (ie his life was blown out of all proportion) and often discussed by adults, not specifically referring to allegations. I think that’s too dark for the Simpsons really.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2465 on: March 08, 2019, 02:47:11 PM »
I thought it was because he looked like a monster

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2466 on: March 08, 2019, 02:48:12 PM »
It's a reference to the Pete Best song 'Michael Jackson was made up to scare kids'.

Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2467 on: March 08, 2019, 03:13:52 PM »
That was a pseudonym I think. On the commentary on the dvds the writers/producers talk about the secrecy around getting MJ in to do the voice. Unless they were joking of course.

I think they say that Jackson did the speaking parts but an impersonator did the singing parts. They also mention that Jackson specifically requested a scene where he's alone with Bart in the treehouse, and mention how weird that is in retrospect. Luckily I don't think they did it, so Jackson couldn't fiddle with himself imagining getting Bart to suck his nipples (Though I expect this is depicted somewhere on DeviantArt).

It's ridiculous that they're pulling that episode from ALL media. Would they object to racist stuff in Looney Tunes etc getting released on physical media? I'd seriously doubt it. I'm fine with it not being aired on TV again but it shouldn't be erased from history. It's a great episode too, not some season 50 shite.

Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2468 on: March 08, 2019, 03:35:17 PM »
I do think removing it from DVD and Blu-Ray release is a bit extreme, although it will increase the value of my copy I bought three years ago (when no one could have possibly suspected such things)

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2469 on: March 08, 2019, 03:41:37 PM »
It does seem a bit strange given that, well... we all know about it. It's not as if it's a recent episode that may have only been seen by a few people, or an unreleased one. It's pretty firmly lodged in the consciousness of fans, as well as being pretty firmly lodged on every bloody DVD copy of season 3 that exists in the world. Given how long the show has been going, if there are any new fans who are dedicated enough to go back to the beginning, I'm sure they'll find it.

If there's some aspect of the episode that means money still goes to the Jackson estate, that will make sense. Otherwise it seems a fairly empty gesture.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2470 on: March 08, 2019, 03:44:13 PM »
It should remain on any future DVD releases, but with an introduction by Whoppi Goldberg explaining that things were different thirty years ago.

I was joking with some friends the other day that a #metoo scandal may be the one thing that ends The Simpsons. If only they had made Michael Jackson a regular cast member after season 11...

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2471 on: March 08, 2019, 04:06:55 PM »
Meanwhile, 14 years in the future:

"Fox are pulling The Simpson's episode Lisa Goes Gaga from all media and re-runs.

Said the undying body of James L. Brooks 'Nothing to do with any historical sexual assault allegations, it's just so fucking shit!'"

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2472 on: March 08, 2019, 09:17:37 PM »
They'll come for the episodes that guest-starred Jim'll Savile next.  :(

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2473 on: March 08, 2019, 09:46:45 PM »
They'll come for the episodes that guest-starred Jim'll Savile next.  :(

They reissued a Doctor Who DVD minus a "Jim'll Fix It" extra, so that's already happened.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2474 on: March 10, 2019, 06:41:02 PM »
They reissued a Doctor Who DVD minus a "Jim'll Fix It" extra, so that's already happened.

The tragedy will not be complete until Jim’ll Savile has been excised from The Simpsons.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2475 on: March 11, 2019, 07:46:53 PM »
It's a good thing Jackson never appeared in Who.

Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2476 on: March 11, 2019, 08:26:09 PM »
It's a good thing Jackson never appeared in Who.

A close shave: https://doctorwhowatch.com/2017/01/24/michael-jackson-almost-doctor/

According to this article, he was 'quite keen' on the idea of taking the lead role for himself in 1988.
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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2477 on: March 11, 2019, 08:44:59 PM »
A close shave

Wallace and Gromit too??

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2478 on: March 11, 2019, 09:01:28 PM »
A close shave: https://doctorwhowatch.com/2017/01/24/michael-jackson-almost-doctor/

According to this article, he was 'quite keen' on the idea of taking the lead role for himself in 1988.

He also wanted to play Jar Jar Binks in The Phantom MenaceNo, really.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2479 on: March 11, 2019, 09:19:19 PM »
And also he wanted to play Gordon Brittas in The Brittas Empire.

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2480 on: March 11, 2019, 11:44:48 PM »
And he also wanted to play left wing back for Scotland at France '98. Tosh McKinlay the better choice though

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2481 on: March 12, 2019, 12:39:23 AM »
A close shave: https://doctorwhowatch.com/2017/01/24/michael-jackson-almost-doctor/

According to this article, he was 'quite keen' on the idea of taking the lead role for himself in 1988.

Crikey!

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Re: When did The Simpsons jump the shark?
« Reply #2482 on: March 12, 2019, 09:26:59 AM »
He had a cameo in Men in Black II, so expect Film4 to push out an edited version of that fairly soon.