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Glastonbury 2014: not as good as it used to be

Started by George Oscar Bluth II, September 16, 2013, 01:15:12 PM

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thepuffpastryhangman

Quote from: George Oscar Bluth II on September 17, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
I like pphm's belief that tickets for events are some sort of human right or something.

Doesn't everyone think that?

Why should people be excluded from celebrating their culture? Just because everything's been commercialised (a point IIRC you've made yourself - in which you mentioned, among other things, working people being priced out of football matches) we still have a right to partake of events around us. It's inter-human activity. At a price.
The cost is not a legitimate feature of what's great about the event. The event's about people. Yes, every gathering gets milked dry. The price on its head, £500 for a few days, means it interacts with everyday life as a product. A bid to satisfy the innate human longing for joint, mass interaction and harmony equals a new two seater sofa or the gas bill.
That's not right. Yes. Even people who don't know it do want to go to festivals. It's in them they've just not tapped it yet. They're the people who need to go most of all. But they're not, the car needs tyres for its MOT.

It is a human right. It should be aside from the money.

Tiny Poster

So does anyone fancy tag-teaming on these tickets, to improve our chances of getting in?

Johnny Townmouse

Quote from: Tiny Poster on September 17, 2013, 05:38:41 PM
So does anyone fancy tag-teaming on these tickets, to improve our chances of getting in?

Check out this cunt with his fucking technique.

Marx is spinning in his grave.

Beagle 2

Fuck's sake puffy,  you've really lost the plot this time. 

Johnny Townmouse

Quote from: thepuffpastryhangman on September 17, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Doesn't everyone think that?

Why should people be excluded from celebrating their culture? Just because everything's been commercialised (a point IIRC you've made yourself - in which you mentioned, among other things, working people being priced out of football matches) we still have a right to partake of events around us. It's inter-human activity. At a price.
The cost is not a legitimate feature of what's great about the event. The event's about people. Yes, every gathering gets milked dry. The price on its head, £500 for a few days, means it interacts with everyday life as a product. A bid to satisfy the innate human longing for joint, mass interaction and harmony equals a new two seater sofa or the gas bill.
That's not right. Yes. Even people who don't know it do want to go to festivals. It's in them they've just not tapped it yet. They're the people who need to go most of all. But they're not, the car needs tyres for its MOT.

It is a human right. It should be aside from the money.




thugler

There is a simple way of making the ticket buying system fair. Online queuing. It doesn't work like that at the moment, it's blind luck of everyone trying to get the same page to load at the same time. If those who got on and into the queue as they go on sale were put straight into a queue and simply had to wait their turn to buy tickets, and everyone who got on afterward was behind in the queue, those who made the effort would have no problems getting tickets. I believe they've used a similar system for football match tickets before.

At the moment, I don't see what's wrong with groups of 8, all wanting to go, try together and if 2 of them get in can get tickets for all of them. Making that harder seems stupid.

Tiny Poster

But what if you work between the hours of 09:00 and 09:01 on a Sunday?


CaledonianGonzo

Quote from: thugler on September 17, 2013, 06:04:10 PM
There is a simple way of making the ticket buying system fair. Online queuing. It doesn't work like that at the moment, it's blind luck of everyone trying to get the same page to load at the same time. If those who got on and into the queue as they go on sale were put straight into a queue and simply had to wait their turn to buy tickets, and everyone who got on afterward was behind in the queue, those who made the effort would have no problems getting tickets. I believe they've used a similar system for football match tickets before.

Ticketmaster use a system like this, but I've rarely seen it work well in practice.  You often just end up getting booted out of the queue for no reason.

Tiny Poster

Just remember, if it's too hard to get something, you can always steal it!

CaledonianGonzo

Though in the case of Glastonbury you're stealing from charity!

Tiny Poster

What if I promise to buy almost all my noodles from the hippiest hippie there?

sproggy

Quote from: CaledonianGonzo on September 17, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Though in the case of Glastonbury you're stealing from charity!

And the headliners and the 20,000 staff & crew.

If there are 20 people chasing the same ticket wouldn't the idea of random selection based on registration details be more fair?

CaledonianGonzo

Another option if you're unlucky in the ticket sale:

http://www.oxfam.org.uk/stewarding/festivals/glastonbury-festival

You can also try to get onto one of the litter recycling crews:

fiona@glastonburyfestivals.co.uk

Tiny Poster

The human right of going to Glastonbury and enjoying it is being denied to those who have to work there, I've just realised.

CaledonianGonzo

The human rights of the Eavis family dairy herd are also being suppressed.

thepuffpastryhangman

Quote from: CaledonianGonzo on September 17, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
The human rights of the Eavis family dairy herd are also being suppressed.

It's more for the sheep these days.

CaledonianGonzo

Sheep with computers and debit cards, don't forget.

Tiny Poster

I reckon people from Glastonbury should get first dibs on tickets.

CaledonianGonzo

People in the area get priority day tickets for the Sunday, but I dunno whether Glastonbury itself actually falls within the catchment area.  They get advertised in the local press and such, which is a disgrace IMHO as it gives an unfair advantage to people who read newspapers.

Gavin M

Quote from: Tiny Poster on September 17, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
I reckon people from Glastonbury should get first dibs on tickets.

My mate's wife told us ten years ago that she and her family always got free tickets sent as they lived only a few miles away, but as she wasn't interested in the bin they always went.

Tiny Poster

They should be made to attend and puff puff pass, as it is such a mafical festival.

sproggy

Getting to "work" your ticket is just as tough if not tougher now than trying to buy a general punter ticket without broadband.  The vetting process for Oxfam is not trivial and getting bar work is going to get harder as the co-op is gradually replaced with corporate bars.

CaledonianGonzo

Don't WBC still run most of the non-venue bars?  I know there are things like The Bimble Inn and Cider Bus which do their own thing and a couple of others run by local breweries , but the big stageside counter bars are all still WBC, no?

Edit:  Bar the Brothers bar, I suppose.

Beagle 2

Yeah they are, I work for a union and I send a group every year. It's always an option to me and everyone seems to love the experience who we send, not bad really in that you only work three shifts over five days, but I don't think I could bear to work a second at Glastonbury. Imagine serving pints by the Other Stage listening to Chase and Status.

CaledonianGonzo

It's still free of this sort of thing, at any rate:






Johnny Townmouse

I did litter picking twice and both times it was after the festival. You camp in a field where you have to show a pass to get in, the toilets are cleaner, they have (communal) showers, and a cafe with breakfast, lunch and dinner. I did the picking for two days after the festival and then got my ticket cost refunded.

This was '95 and '96 mind.

CaledonianGonzo

The other thing is that there are various resales after the initital sellout, with tickets suddenly becoming available again on the site for no rhyme nor reason.

If you're diligent with monitoring the page and keep your ear to the ground in the various fora or by following the unofficial information accounts on Twitter, then all hope is not lost.

Neville Chamberlain

Look at Callers, there, with his "techniques", his "diligence", his "monitoring", his "ears to the ground" - he's like a one-man, right-wing, sharp-elbowed Stasi unit!

CaledonianGonzo

I live for the day when they perform Sonata For a Good Man on The Lives of Others Stage.

Granted, I'll only be listening to it from a bunker underneath the Tor.