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Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac (NSFW)

Started by kitsofan34, November 22, 2013, 05:40:11 PM

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kitsofan34

Here's a trailer: http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/nov/22/nymphomaniac-trailer-lars-von-trier
Well, that's quite something, isn't it?

This film was devised after someone criticised male directors for showing more and more female flesh as they got older. Because he's a contrarian, Von Trier has taken that remark and driven it to the ground with an entire film based around the sexual life of a nymphomaniac.
Mr. Von Trier has been releasing little clips over the last couple of months, four of which I've found on popular video sharing website youtube for you.

1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMnJDyv2a1Y
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq0MiGLp4aE
3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAk_uhJMqw
4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8in8pmlzlA

Von Trier's original cut was five and a half hours long and would feature a softcore and hardcore version. However now, for the first time in his career, he's given up the final cut of the film, a move I find disconcerting. There will now be a sole hardcore version, trimmed down because Von Trier's backers were worried about the commercial reach of a five hour fuck fest film. 

Here are ten promotional stills of various members of the cast pretending to reach an orgasm.




















Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: kitsofan34 on November 22, 2013, 05:40:11 PM


That's my cum face, the cheeky thieving bastard!

Anyhow, I'm a big fan of Von Trier for all his crimes, but I'll wait until this is out on dvd, for obvious reasons.


Snobbish Puerile Wanker


kitsofan34

I think it looks more like Fat Ray Liotta.

biggytitbo

Can someone just cut through the hype and tell me whose bums, fannies and willys we get to see?

Ein Sof

I have a preference for Connie Nielsen's:


kitsofan34

Quote from: biggytitbo on November 22, 2013, 09:33:07 PM
Can someone just cut through the hype and tell me whose bums, fannies and willys we get to see?

The actual "insertions" will be simulated by actual porn stars. So when you think you're seeing Shia's cock, you'll be seeing a pornstar's spliced in as a replacement.

It's likely you'll at the very least see Gainsbourg's bits. Old Stellan's bound to whip his cock out, as is Willem Defoe.

Quote from: Ein Sof on November 22, 2013, 09:39:32 PM
I have a preference for Connie Nielsen's:

Oops, seem to have missed some.







I even forgot Willem Dafoe's, sorry guys :(




biggytitbo

Quote from: kitsofan34 on November 22, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
The actual "insertions" will be simulated by actual porn stars. So when you think you're seeing Shia's cock, you'll be seeing a pornstar's spliced in as a replacement.

It's likely you'll at the very least see Gainsbourg's bits. Old Stellan's bound to whip his cock out, as is Willem Defoe.

Its all a bit boring really isnt it?

Trying too hard Lars.

I'm not sure if it was one of the dogme vows but there was real sex in the Idiots and Antichrist wasn't there?

radarange



LVTrier: The title text on the poster is a bit plain, is there a way we can sex it up a bit?

DEsigner: I could replace the letter O with parentheses instead, it makes it look a bit like a fanny.

LVTrier: Yes it does! You've done it again, Dan Esigner.

Blumf


Quote from: kitsofan34 on November 22, 2013, 09:51:20 PM


Christ. Where's the shit photoshopped film poster thread? They don't even look like they're in the same plane of existence, let alone room, let alone actually interacting with each other, let alone not waxwork 'Allo 'Allo mannequins.

CaledonianGonzo

Quote from: biggytitbo on November 22, 2013, 10:01:49 PM
Its all a bit boring really isnt it?

Trying too hard Lars.

Right on the button.

Quote from: Smeraldina Rima on November 22, 2013, 10:21:35 PM
I'm not sure if it was one of the dogme vows but there was real sex in the Idiots and Antichrist wasn't there?

I believe there was in Antichrist. Although it wasn't actually any of the actors, they had doubles in for any penetration.

Anyway, I'm pretty open minded and I'm fine to watch anything if it looks good, but honestly, I agree with the above comments that he's clearly trying too hard with this one.
I also don't trust The Beef at all. He hasn't convinced me that he can give a good performance. He may be one of those guys who's dependant on the director, but at the moment, I've never believed him in any of his roles and I feel he's a really bad choice for this.

It all just looks like wank, don't it? No bloody pun intended you flippin' pun-wobbler.

ALSO,
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This film was devised after someone criticised male directors for showing more and more female flesh as they got older. Because he's a contrarian, Von Trier has taken that remark and driven it to the ground with an entire film based around the sexual life of a nymphomaniac.

That's just such a bloody having your cake and eating it defence. And in my experience, I don't believe that theory to be hugely true. Who are these directors? I'm sure there may be one or two but they'll be in a distinct minority. It's not subversive if you just do it anyway.

Garam

I have a really strong feeling this will be brilliant. I'll go see them both in the cinema and enjoy any dodgy looks I get from the ticket twat.

I am bored to my back teeth of sex and human bodies and if I have to address it at length I would rather look at Rachel Riley pictures for five hours. Grow up and fuck off Lars, you're embarassing yourself, sort yourself out.

Structures like this and the Seidl Paradise trilogy make the extra length seem more like a contraction of a tv serial than an extended movie. I don't mind having to watch it at home as not much of a cinemagoer but must be annoying for people who are.

Is Shia Labeouf doing an English accent in his clip? It might be iffy but it doesn't really matter and the scene was fun. 'Good job, Liz' was a great line. He seemed like a good actor in that clip, having not payed much attention to the rest of his career. That's why I wasn't confident using the The Beef form.

Quote from: Bored of Canada on November 23, 2013, 08:48:48 AM
Christ. Where's the shit photoshopped film poster thread? They don't even look like they're in the same plane of existence, let alone room, let alone actually interacting with each other, let alone not waxwork 'Allo 'Allo mannequins.

To give the benefit of the doubt to this poster - that's the film poster not the idiot moron giving his opinion above, you plank - it looks like that might have been intentional; kind of like they are all sculptural/Cytherean nymphos at a lacklustre orgy where they remain doomed to isolation even at the banging stage of a relationship? The representation of the coexistence of different planes of existence though. He shouldn't be doing that.

Garam


I think it must mean trying too hard to shock and not enough to make something good or addressed to me. It's a dumb criticism of a trailer dumbos. Boring is an even worse comment as it's the epitome of subjective response used to vaguely attack Von Trier's interests, basically a personality attack, an act of facism like the ones usually visited upon Graffic and the Puff Pastry Hangman.

WesterlyWinds

All you naysayers are just jealous you didn't get asked to be the cock/vadge doubles.

Noodle Lizard

About time this got a thread.

I'm still not sure exactly what's happening with regards to the 5.5 hour cut being shown in two parts at half price or the Hardcore/Softcore versions.  It seems it's going to be 4 hours in total, released as two 2-hour films, but no option between Hardcore/Softcore.  Given that the Hardcore version may not be released uncut in most countries (or at least with no potential to be at all lucrative), I'm hoping they haven't just cut out an hour and a half of tits, cocks and fannies to appease the money gods.

Really looking forward to it, though.  If done right, it may be the first cinematic experience I'll be happy wanking to since the pool sex/shark attack scene in 'Showgirls'.  That trailer is great, though the use of Rammstein and a couple of shots makes me think he might have been watching 'Lilja 4-Ever'.

Noodle Lizard

Quote from: kitsofan34 on November 22, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
The actual "insertions" will be simulated by actual porn stars. So when you think you're seeing Shia's cock, you'll be seeing a pornstar's spliced in as a replacement.

It's annoying that The Beef pretty much said that he'd done full unsimulated sexy intercourse for this film.  Maybe he did and Lars decided it wasn't up to snuff.

Anyway, this technique might work with the right digital know-how.  Ever seen the Rammstein video for 'Pussy'?

vrailaine

I'm looking forward to this. Melancholia was brilliant and he had a few other gems in the past, I'm sure there's a 3% chance it won't be total shite and I'd say if it isn't total shite, it's 75% likely to be fucking amazing so that gives a 2.25% chance of it being fucking amazing, being 4 hours long, there's an 85% chance that at least something in it will be interesting, so that's a 2.55% chance of it being of some merit which you could round up to be 3% because we don't want to be obsessively detailed, do we?

That being said, Antichrist was kinda shite and this seems more in line with it than his good things.


Wet Blanket

Is this going to be a rare example of a 'mainstream' film that can only legally be shown in sex cinemas?

There was one a couple of years ago that couldn't be released on DVD because only sex shops can sell R18-certificate material (can't even buy them online) but such outlets are unwilling to stock art-house films, and art-house film-lovers often unwilling to visit sex shops.

I've never been to a dirty cinema - do they still show the BBFC black card at the beginning?

Noodle Lizard

Quote from: Wet Blanket on November 26, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
Is this going to be a rare example of a 'mainstream' film that can only legally be shown in sex cinemas? 

Nah.  If '9 Songs' or 'Irreversible' or even 'antichrist' for that matter can be shown in proper cinemas, there's no reason this one shouldn't.  The fact that it's a proper film by that Von Trier fellow probably helps.

Does anyone know of a release date for this outside of Denmark?

El Unicornio, mang

I liked Dancer in the Dark a lot but have found his other stuff to be interminable. I like that he tries to push the envelope, but it seems he's relied on plain shock factor to do this for most of his stuff, and this appears to be that taken to the next level.

checkoutgirl

Despite having hung around with a few intellectual types in my time I have never seen a Lars von Trier film. I can't see this changing anytime soon. He seems to be trying his best to annoy everyone and I can't think of anything duller and less interesting than that. If I ever do watch a Lars von Trier film it will be The Idiots, purely because it made Kermode curse in French at a cinema screen. I reckon Lars von Trier was mercilessly bullied at school and his parents were both alcoholic prostitutes who enjoyed child torture. That might explain his rampant misogyny and manic depressive episodes.

A five hour porno film? You'd need a bionic arm to get through that.

Wet Blanket

Some of his films I've found brilliant, such as Dogville & Melancholia; others made me want to burst my own eyeballs with a biro, such as Antichrist.

I suspect Nymphomaniac will be a biro job. After I've had a wank of course.


Noodle Lizard

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on November 26, 2013, 04:04:35 PM
I liked Dancer in the Dark a lot but have found his other stuff to be interminable. I like that he tries to push the envelope, but it seems he's relied on plain shock factor to do this for most of his stuff, and this appears to be that taken to the next level.

Not really.  Even one of his most notoriously "shocking" films, 'antichrist', only has maybe 20-30 seconds of "shocking" scenes.  The rest is all atmosphere.  Same for 'Breaking The Waves' and 'Dogville'.  'Melancholia' could be U-rated save for some language and a pair of boobs in one bit. 

There are a few criticisms that could be levelled at Lars, but I don't think it's fair to say he's relied on "plain shock factor" for any of his stuff.  Even 'The Idiots', which is all about shock factor in many ways.