Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac (NSFW)

[Noodle Lizard]

Do you mean "...in Hollywood"?

"Well-known".  So yeah, probably.  But neither Lars Von Trier or even Kevin Smith (at least not with his last two films) fall under "Hollywood" as such.

[vrailaine]

Tarantino and Kevin fucking Smith aside, I can't even think of another well-known contemporary director who writes their own original stories off the top of my head.  And it's pushing it a bit to say that Tarantino is "original" in some regards.

Off the top of my head and limiting it to American, here's a few very good ones: Jeff Nichols (big enough now to be somewhat well known, right?), Woody Allen, Paul Thomas Anderson, Wes Anderson

[Noodle Lizard]

Off the top of my head and limiting it to American, here's a few very good ones: Jeff Nichols (big enough now to be somewhat well known, right?), Woody Allen, Paul Thomas Anderson, Wes Anderson

Ok, I'll give you that.

[Sam]

Ok, I'll give you that.

Alfonso Cuaron - cowrote Gravity with his son. Very rare for a mega blockbuster to be an original idea. Also James Cameron, although he really shouldn't write his scripts.

Terrence Malick - His aesthetic is totally alien to conventional, contemporary Hollywood but his career is very much part of that system - from coming up in the 70s with Mike Medavoy as his agent to his current freedom allowed by Hollywood stars such as Pitt bankrolling him. You can only break the rules by learning them first and you can only really change an institution from the inside.

Also, Luc Besson, JJ Abrams, Edgar Wright and many others.

On the other hand didn't Billy Friedkin say 'a director who writes his own scripts is like a man who has himself as his lawyer'.

[DJ Solid Snail]

How is it possible that no-one's done any parodies of these posters yet? I attempted replacing Jamie Bell with the first ever shot of Tyrion in Game of Thrones, but I'm rubbish at Photoshop.

[Dusty Substance]

Having watched the trailer and those four preview clips I have a strange, nagging feeling that Shia LaBeouf is going to "Do a Ledger" and really surprise us with a great performance.

Remember - You heard it here first.

[daf]

[Famous Mortimer]

Tarantino and Kevin fucking Smith aside, I can't even think of another well-known contemporary director who writes their own original stories off the top of my head.  And it's pushing it a bit to say that Tarantino is "original" in some regards.

Woody Allen? Christopher Nolan? Jim Jarmusch? Wes Anderson?

I assume you meant something slightly different, because there's a ton of examples.

[Noodle Lizard]

Woody Allen? Christopher Nolan? Jim Jarmusch? Wes Anderson?

I assume you meant something slightly different, because there's a ton of examples.

Yes, we dealt with that already, I couldn't think of many at that moment, I fucked up, thanks.  Still, not often that you see a film with an original screenplay at all anymore, let alone one written by the filmmaker.

[Don_Preston]

Still, not often that you see a film with an original screenplay at all anymore, let alone one written by the filmmaker.

Woody Allen? Christopher Nolan? Jim Jarmusch? Wes Anderson?

[Famous Mortimer]

In my defence, I must have missed a page of this thread (if you're having a pop at me repeating names).

[Noodle Lizard]

Woody Allen? Christopher Nolan? Jim Jarmusch? Wes Anderson?

Spike Jonze might be a worthy add, actually.  That 'Her' film is bound to get nominated for Best Original Screenplay, even though it'll likely be Woody who wins.

In my defence, I must have missed a page of this thread (if you're having a pop at me repeating names).

In the wider context of the discussion, I think I meant to say that a film being entirely evocative of its maker's own personality or philosophy, as is the case with LVT, rather than just a story seems increasingly rare.  I think Sam mentioned the only other valid comparison in that regard with Terence Malick (even though I personally don't have much time for him), it's certainly not something I feel with a lot of the writer/directors mentioned. 

Very much looking forward to Jim Jarmusch's new film, though.

[kitsofan34]

A cinema audience of children waiting to view the hit Disney animation Frozen were accidentally shown a trailer for explicit art house sex epic Nymphomaniac.
Parents in the auditorium in Tampa, Florida, reportedly struggled to cover the eyes of their offspring, while others headed swiftly for the exits, as an apparent technical error saw the promotional clip for Danish agent provocateur Lars von Trier's salacious new film suddenly hit the big screen.

"They put in the filler, it looked like Steamboat Willie, the old Mickey Mouse cartoon, and then all of a sudden it goes into this other scene," grandmother Lynn Greene told My Fox Tampa Bay. "It seemed like forever when you're trying to, you know, cover a little guy's eyes. I didn't have enough hands to cover his ears too and he got the sound down real good.

"You're talking, what, a PG-rated movie to all of a sudden have an R-rated scene up there for little children?" she added. "My concern is that there should be safeguards in place so that this doesn't happen again."

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/dec/04/nymphomaniac-lars-von-trier-accidentally-children

[kitsofan34]

http://www.avclub.com/article/lars-von-triers-nymphomaniac-is-coming-all-over-am-106256

Paging Noodle Lizard, who I've heard vague rumours about regarding where he lives.

[Noodle Lizard]

http://www.avclub.com/article/lars-von-triers-nymphomaniac-is-coming-all-over-am-106256

Paging Noodle Lizard, who I've heard vague rumours about regarding where he lives.

Oh eh.  Cheers.

[acrow]

for those of you who are interested, parts 1 and 2 are screening on the 22nd with a q&a thing too.

[surreal]

Poor old Shia's really gone off the deep end:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26109348

US actor Shia LaBeouf has walked out of a news conference for director Lars von Trier's new film Nymphomaniac at the Berlin Film Festival.

LaBeouf left after 10 minutes, quoting footballer Eric Cantona's famous 1995 line: "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea."

He later appeared on the red carpet wearing a paper bag on his head.

Written on it were the words: "I am not famous any more."

[Unoriginal]

Antichrist was a joke. By that I mean Von Trier knowingly took the piss out of the art film establishment and they all fell for it as he knew they would. He must have been giggling when he inserted the Tarkovsky dedication knowing how that would go down. If you're trying to find some deep meaning in that film, I don't think you'll get too far.

[Depressed Beyond Tables]

Yeah this guy is a joker.

5 hours of porn.

[vrailaine]

So Nymphomaniac part 1 is definitely coming down here to at least one of the cinemas next weekend. Considering absolutely loads of films never get to here, that's pretty surprising.

Reviews are still unanimously positive, I've absolutely no clue what to expect now.

[Melodichaze]

Phew, they're showing it at my local art-house cinema too with the Q&A. Just hope I can get a babysitter as it's a fair whack of a film at 4 hours (-wonder if there'll be an intermission/comfort break).

Just been nosing through the Nymphomaniac website; the little snippets they've released of each chapter have definitely worked their magic and increased my interest. CG is a great actress and I'm keen to see how the tale is depicted. I'm now more keen to see it at a cinema where I can witness the audience reaction.

[vrailaine]

What's this Q&A thing? That might be the reason it's only down for one day so far?

[Melodichaze]

What's this Q&A thing? That might be the reason it's only down for one day so far?

From the Curzon website:
Curzon Cinemas brings an unprecedented 'One Night Stand' event cinema release of Lars von Trier's Nymphomaniac. For one night only, British cinema audiences will have their only opportunity to watch the double bill of Nymphomaniac Vol. I & Vol. II back-to-back – followed by an on-stage interview with members of the cast including Stellan Skarsgård, Stacy Martin, Sophie Kennedy Clark and Mia Goth. The event will be hosted by Edith Bowman at Curzon Chelsea, and broadcast live via satellite to cinemas around the country.

http://www.curzoncinemas.com/news/all/nymphomaniac_onenightstand.aspx

[vrailaine]

Ahhhhh, that's what they're doing here too so. They've it down as being only 2 hours though.

Fuck, I do not know if I'll want to watch 4 hours of Von Trier next Saturday, if it was today it would've been horrific.

[Famous Mortimer]

If that's on at the Showroom in Sheffield, I think I'll give it a go.

[vrailaine]

Turns out the local cinema is only showing part one plus the introduction bit, but are charging €16 for it. Fuck that.

[Josef K]

Saw the double feature at Cineworld West India Quay last night.  Loved it though I suspect it won't change the minds of those not particularly enamored with him.
Few spoilered thoughts:

Spoiler alert

The whole film was pretty much a knowing wink and a 'fuck you' to fans and critics alike. From the out of the blue ending to the reference to the opening of Antichrist that made me want to applaud. A few bits of dialogue stuck out as being direct responses to his critics, notable Seligman's irrelevant discussion of anti-zionism not being anti-semitism being a response to the Cannes controversy and the anti-patriarchy speech at the end seemingly being an attempt to head off the normal misogyny accusations.

The casting was fantastic as all his recent films though the sudden shift to the 'old Jerome' actor seemed unnecessary and jarred more than the switch from young Joe to older Joe.

[close]

It's also fucking funny!

[Retinend]

Can you wank to it?

[WesterlyWinds]

It's actively encouraged at cinema showings of it

[Artemis]

I was handed a trench coat and a towel, and asked to be considerate of those around me.