I admit that that’s rapey behavior. But I am not a rapist.

[Urinal Cake]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/celebrity-graffiti-artist-david-choe-says-admission-of-rapey

She's definitely not into it, but she's not stopping it either. I say, 'Kiss it a little,' she says, 'No, all the massage oil is on it,' and I take the back of her head and I push it down on my dick and she doesn't do it. And I say, 'Open your mouth, open your mouth,' and she does it and I start facefucking her.
Choe says that he continued with the act until he ejaculated into the masseuse's mouth. Rose refused to have sex with him, and allegedly asked him to lie back down so she could continue with the massage.
After Choe told the story, his co-host Akira said, "You raped... allegedly." And he responded "Well... encouraged." Akira further pushed the question of whether or not Choe raped.
"I just want to make it clear that I admit that that's rapey behavior," said Choe. "But I am not a rapist." He continued:
With the rape stuff... I mean, I would have been in a lot of trouble right now if I put her hand on my dick and she's like, 'Fucking stop I'm gonna go call security.' That would have been a much different story. But the thrill of possibly going to jail, that's what achieved the erection quest.
After that Akira exclaimed: "You're basically telling us that you're a rapist right now, and the only way to get your dick hard is rape." His response was simply "Yeah."

I never thought I'd wake up one late afternoon and hear myself called a rapist. It sucks. Especially because I am not one. I am not a rapist. I hate rapists, I think rapists should be raped and murdered.
I am an artist and a storyteller and I view my show DVDASA as a complete extension of my art.
If I am guilty of anything, it's bad storytelling in the style of douche. Just like many of my paintings are often misinterpreted, the same goes with my show. The main objective of all of my podcasts is to challenge and provoke my friends and the co-stars on the show. We fuck with each other, entertain ourselves and laugh at each other. It's a dark, tasteless, completely irreverent show where we fuck with everyone listening, but mostly ourselves. We create stories and tell tales. It's not a news show. It's not a representation of my reality. It's not the place to come for reliable information about me or my life. It's my version of reality, it's art that sometimes offends people. I'm sorry if anyone believed that the stories were fact. They were not!
In a world full of horrible people, thank god for us.

I remember this guy from one of Bourdain's shows. He said shit like you should never go out with Korean girls because they're too high maintenance and if you wanted to go out with an Asian girl you should go out with a Chinese one.

Also 'I am not a rapist. I hate rapists, I think rapists should be raped and murdered'

[clingfilm portent]

Well, he's a twat. Got any more?

[BritishHobo]

Who gives a really cagey defence for rape without explicitly denying it, and then ends with "In a world full of horrible people, thank god for us"? A dickhead.

[Urinal Cake]

We'll see if the police investigate but I guess for Vice etc it'll be business as usual.

I like his defence of, 'I'm an artist and I'm a storyteller'. No dude you're a painter if you painted yourself raping someone then it would be reasonable to assume this is part of your dark imagination but when you tell an ancedote people are going to assume it's the truth.

[kittens]

who the heck is this cunt

[roboko]

He sounds autistic to be honest.

[Urinal Cake]

who the heck is this cunt

He's a painter, graphic artist etc. He's worth about $100 million [nb]in part because when Facebook was still young he did some murals for them and decided he wanted to be paid in shares. [/nb]

[BritishHobo]

We'll see if the police investigate but I guess for Vice etc it'll be business as usual.

I like his defence of, 'I'm an artist and I'm a storyteller'. No dude you're a painter if you painted yourself raping someone then it would be reasonable to assume this is part of your dark imagination but when you tell an ancedote people are going to assume it's the truth.

"I'm shocked that after saying on my podcast that I raped a girl, loads of people started calling me a rapist! What a world!"

[Birdie]

I reckon if you behave like a rapist then you probably are one.

But then with some much porn/erotica based around 'reluctance', is it any wonder some men get confused?

[imitationleather]

Oh come on. Who can honestly say they've never forced a masseuse to give them a blowjob?

[biggytitbo]

The founders of the therapist finder's website 'therapistfinder' had a lot of bad publicity at the time but they attracted a whole new class of clientèle. Everyones a winner.

[Bored of Canada]

I reckon if you behave like a rapist then you probably are one.

But then with some much porn/erotica based around 'reluctance', is it any wonder some men get confused?

Nope. This is like saying Doom and Marilyn Manson confused the two kids who shot up Columbine. There were fundamentally deeper problems with these people.
No means No. Rapists know exactly what they're doing. Just like kids who bring a gun to school.

[Thursday]

I've somehow gone through  my life having never felt the need to force my penis onto a woman. Maybe I'm gay.

[Mister Six]

I'm appalled.

'A much different story'? Ugh.

[Bored of Canada]

I've somehow gone through  my life having never felt the need to force my penis onto a woman. Maybe I'm gay.

Maybe you ARE gay, Thursday. Stop trying to hide it in jokes and come to know yourself.

[fit bird]

if somebody put their knob in my gob against my will i'd bite it off and throw it at them.

i didnt bother reading this thread. thats all i have to say on the subject. thanks for reading.

[Big Jack McBastard]

Sounds about right to me, though there is a gristly tube up centre that'll need some sharp incisors to get through. Anyone forcing cock into gob is playing with bitey fire, especially when the recipient can precision mangle your balls with the nailed fingers of both hands at the same time.

That'll dampen a rapey ardour and drop a mofo in short order.

Simple crushing pressure to gonads is perhaps the least favourite of our available male sensations, can't speak for what having them bitten with savage intent feels like, but I confidently imagine it's a worse variation on something that's already terribly awful.

[Mark Steels Stockbroker]

He's a painter, graphic artist etc. He's worth about $100 million

You'll have to deduct huge legal fees from that soon.

[Borboski]

Who gives a really cagey defence for rape without explicitly denying it, and then ends with "In a world full of horrible people, thank god for us"? A dickhead.

I thought of Luke Bozier, actually.

[Borboski]

The only thing I ever did that I regret was I had met a girl on a night out in a small group of friends.  She had made very clear she was interested, pretty much as soon as I talked to her she was putting her hands on my shoulders and - no exaggeration - sort of getting the giggles and leaning forward with her head down, laughing at how much she fancied me.

That doesn't happen enough I can tell you.

Anyway we walked back to my friend's house, increasingly all drunk, where I was going to sleep downstairs.  And this point she had dawdled behind walking with me, insisted on hugging me a couple of times, then when I went to kiss her she said "Oh no I have a boyfriend". 

So that was a bit annoying, in retrospect, she'd spent the last two hours touching me oh well.  But we went inside and sat on the sofa with her legs over mine, I think probably under the old blanket.  The girls went to bed upstairs and I was on the sofa.  I realised I needed a wakeup call and so went up and knocked to use their phone, it turned out my friend had left to go to her boyfriends so it was just the new girl.  At this point I went "Oh well I can sleep in here, right?".   She did say "ok", I think, hmm.  Pretty sure she did.

Anyway, the next hour or so, and in the morning was dry humping and with some fingerblasting.  Now it was *definitely* consensual, but still, it sits badly with me.  A couple of times I would admit that she did say "stop", but (arrgh) without conviction (?!) and then she would rub her bum up against me or put my arm around her.  And she did say "Oh why didn't I meet you a month ago?".  But still... sober, I think if anyone is i) pissed or ii) says stop, then really you just have to stop.  I *think*, depending on your perspective, if she had felt overwhelming guilt about cheating on her new boyfriend she could have recounted these events and I could have faced at least a police interview. It's really just not worth it.

The next time I met her in a bar she immediately did the same thing, came and stood up against me and sort of brushing my face with her lips.  I did quite fancy her so by that point I found that a bit annoying.   Still, that boyfriend - reader she married him - so there's a happy ending in there somewhere?

[Buelligan]

I stopped reading at celebrity graffiti artist.

[Mark Steels Stockbroker]

I stopped reading at

Why does anyone think... oh hang on, we've already done this.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

I stopped raping at celebrity graffiti artist.

[Cerys]

I stopped raping a celebrity graffiti artist.

Glad to hear it.  I'm amazed Banksy put up with it for so long.

[Buelligan]

Why does anyone think... oh hang on, we've already done this.

Human condition innit.  God touches on it briefly in Proverbs 26:11 - As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.  Nuff said.


_{Son-of-a-Bishop earlier                                                               Photo:D Angerman}

[Unoriginal]

http://www.okwonga.com/?p=1001

This couldn't be a more clear example of rape culture really. How rapists feel so confident to relay stories of rape in public without consequence should terrify everyone. What a scumbag.

[TrenterPercenter]

Rapists, as Meagher notes, aren't just masked predators who suddenly emerge from the dark. Most, often, they are everyday men who feel an sense of entitlement to a woman's body and any sexual gratification that they can derive from it, regardless of her consent.

From your article.

Right here I go:

Rapists are only rapists AFTER the rape has occurred.  Even a man that "feels the sense of entitlement to a woman's body" isn't a rapist, unless they commit the act. If we go down this route then everyone is a potential "something" - sure people can fire some stats about men and rape (I not a rapist sympathiser and i think there are can be lots of things done regarding the issue) but then we can throw around a whole other load of stats and get embroiled  in some shitty whining MRAs vs RadFem bollocks.

Honestly, are we so far past our peak as a human race that we can find better solutions than reminding people that rapists don't wear masks.

What is an everyday man as well I would really love to know what that implies?  I suspect they just put in "day" to make it less offensive and sexist.


Seriously too much meeeeja not enough brains.

[ndrwkrtn]

Right here I go:

Rapists are only rapists AFTER the rape has occurred.

...

Seriously too much meeeeja not enough brains.

Don't think it's quite as clear cut as that, i.e. paedophiles aren't only paedophiles once they've carried out their urge to molest a kid. Similarly you could have a person who lives with the constant urge to rape every day, but for whatever reason doesn't/has yet to carry them out. There's quite a strong intuition to say they're a rapist, or at least some kind of yet-to-be-realised one. So I think the point that a kind of minimal requirement for a rapist is that they simply 'feel entitlement' is a good one - even if we also want to say that the sufficient conditions for being a rapist is that they actually have to carry out a rape.

[kngen]

stuff

Sounds like she was getting off on the transgression[nb]that of cheating, I mean[/nb] more than you were. I wouldn't beat yourself up about it.

[Vodka Margarine]

Ach, that made me feel physically sick. Imagine the arrogance and borderline psychopathic tendencies it must take to demand that your sweaty, entitled, angry little nubbin be pleasured by a clearly non consenting and frightened woman. Hateful.