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Edge of Nonceness - Political Paedos on Parade

Started by Blumf, July 03, 2014, 01:10:03 PM

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George Oscar Bluth II

Quote from: biggytitbo on July 03, 2014, 08:40:58 PM
It is odd the Jill Dando though isn't it? Her murder had all the hallmarks of a professional hit, which means she was murdered for a reason.


But what was that reason eh?!

Barry didn't do it, then they floated some nonsense about Serbia...it's actually quite a persuasive theory isn't it? Someone had a newsreader done in a professional hit and it's never been solved.

That bit of info points only one way.

George Oscar Bluth II

Oh and here's a grim popbitch story from today:

Quote>> More paedo tales <<
The world according to Rev_GB

This month marks seven years since PB legend Reverend_Goatboy's death. Despite the passage of time, the stories he told have dominated the news in recent weeks. Jimmy Savile and corpses? Goatboy story. Rolf Harris up to no good? Goatboy story. Wherever he is, we're sure he's enjoying the last laugh.

For old times' sake, another tall tale he liked to tell went like this:

"Seems that a former Tory minister, when he had to stay in his constituency, chose the local aristocrat's gaff. One night the aristo is paddling down the corridor when he hears cries from his 12-year-old son's room. Going in, he finds the Tory minister hanging out of his son. He promptly hits the panic button. It being the aristo, when the alarm sounds at the nick the ****ing lot show up - choppers and all (high alert at time re IRA). First plod on the scene piles in and the aristo says, "Arrest that bastard!" The copper recognises the Tory minister, and knocks it upstairs sharpish. A few more shunts and it's Maggie on the blower saying leave it, she'll sort it. And the Tory minister was whisked off to work in a reduced role. One wonders what hold they have over the aristo, eh?"


Dex Sawash


biggytitbo

I'd like to hear what 'reverand_goatboy' said about Rolf Harris years ago.

biggytitbo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10944652/Tory-MP-allegedly-found-with-child-porn-in-1980s-faced-no-charges-police-told.html

QuoteA senior Tory politician said to be part of a child sex ring was allegedly stopped by a customs officer with child pornography videos but got off scot-free, police have been told.


Funcrusher

Quote from: Uncle TechTip on July 03, 2014, 11:08:46 PM
But why not now? All those involved are dead or not in a position of power. Just who wants to ensure that their reputations are protected?

Leon Brittan has worked for Cameron as some kind of export promotion thing, and it is claimed that his fiddlerdom was known to Thatcher and others at the time. so there would have to be current Tories who would have known.

biggytitbo

Quote from: Funcrusher on July 04, 2014, 07:46:33 AM
Leon Brittan has worked for Cameron as some kind of export promotion thing, and it is claimed that his fiddlerdom was known to Thatcher and others at the time. so there would have to be current Tories who would have known.


If Harold Wilson is anything to go by, both sides will want to keep a lid on this as it has the potential to open a Pandora's box of other allegations which affect all politicians. Neither side will dare make any party political capital out of it for that reason.

gabrielconroy

Quote from: Funcrusher on July 04, 2014, 07:46:33 AM
Leon Brittan has worked for Cameron as some kind of export promotion thing, and it is claimed that his fiddlerdom was known to Thatcher and others at the time. so there would have to be current Tories who would have known.

Also, if this whole theory is true, the security services would know as well. You'd have thought they'd have told the prime minister. This is where it seems a bit weird. Why would the current government want to employ someone like that? It's not like he's the best goddamn export promoter in the whole world.

biggytitbo

Quote from: gabrielconroy on July 04, 2014, 07:54:27 AM
Also, if this whole theory is true, the security services would know as well. You'd have thought they'd have told the prime minister. This is where it seems a bit weird. Why would the current government want to employ someone like that? It's not like he's the best goddamn export promoter in the whole world.


Maybe they want to protect a senior Tory by keeping him close to the bosom?


George Oscar Bluth II

#71
You know we're heading somewhere with this when stuff we've been saying on here is considered acceptable for the letters pages of a newspaper. (Albeit the Guardian, but whatever)

Would be fascinating to know what Fleet Street knows but can't say.

EDIT:and this article in the Telegraph outright says that newspapers were warned off the story in the 1980s: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10945282/Child-abuse-files-were-dismissed-as-fantasies-of-a-deluded-man.html

Ambient Sheep

#72
Sadly at the moment I don't have time to come back to this thread and address all the stuff that's been posted, but I must just reply to this (and the similar posts that have been made over the last day or two)...

Quote from: George Oscar Bluth II on July 04, 2014, 12:08:14 AM
Barry didn't do it, then they floated some nonsense about Serbia...

...no, Serbia came first.  Everything you ever wanted to know about the Serbian angle as you might recall from the time.  Read my posts and Johnny Yesno's, especially the bit about "allegations that a minister persuaded the BBC not to report information that a Serbian hit team killed television personality Jill Dando will be aired in the High Court this week".  Follow Johnny's link through to a certain blog if you dare... it gets quite frightening, which is why I've not mentioned it since and hesitate to mention it now.

Much as I am a paedo-conspiracy theorist, and the "Dando knew and that's why she was killed" theory is appealing, I think people are probably barking up the wrong tree with this one.  For me the clincher was following the news at the time, the way the media instantly went for the Serb angle as the obvious answer, then mere hours later shut up about it and never mentioned it for years.  However, if the new paedo-busting theory really *IS* true, then hats off to the dark forces for a superb piece of ongoing disinformation going back to just hours after the shooting...

George Oscar Bluth II

Big laugh at the first reply in that thread

Quote from: boxofslice on August 01, 2008, 02:21:13 PM
I've said all along Cliff Richard was behind it. Mark my words the 'bachelor' of pop had her taken out.

QuoteOFFICIAL. Cliff Richard has revoked his UK passport and become a Barbados citizen. UK has no extradition treaty with Barbados. Just saying.

https://twitter.com/blamedandshamed/status/484761742044856320

Blumf

But Cliff has been at Wimbledon recently with... Cilla Black!

The Masked Unit

I've always loved Jonathan King's limerick from here on the subject of Barry George:

There once was a laddie called Barry
A baddie stitched up by the larrie.
He got cleared in the end
But was quite round the bend
And nobody said they were sarry.

Ambient Sheep

Quote from: George Oscar Bluth II on July 04, 2014, 12:12:08 AM
Oh and here's a grim popbitch story from today...

Yeah I remember them "printing" that first time round, back in the days before they discovered lawyers.  Maybe again since too.


Quote from: biggytitbo on July 04, 2014, 07:03:49 AM
I'd like to hear what 'reverand_goatboy' said about Rolf Harris years ago.

Me too.  Unlike Savile and certain politicians (and indeed pop-singers), I never heard anything about Harris until recently.  Or maybe they did print it and one just dismissed it as "Oh come ON now..." and forgot about it.

Just went to search the Popbitch archives by googling site:popbitch.com/home/ "rolf harris" only to be greeted with "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe.".  That new law came just at the right time for them, didn't it, just at the right time... perhaps this is what Bell Pottinger get paid for?

Ambient Sheep

Quote from: biggytitbo on July 04, 2014, 07:19:46 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10944652/Tory-MP-allegedly-found-with-child-porn-in-1980s-faced-no-charges-police-told.html

QuoteA senior Tory politician said to be part of a child sex ring was allegedly stopped by a customs officer with child pornography videos but got off scot-free, police have been told.

I've just looked at the paper version of the Telegraph over lunch, and the above isn't hidden away anywhere (not that you said it was), amazingly it's the left-hand column of page 1!!  (Albeit under airport terror shite as the main headline.)  The story continues on page 6, together with Philip Johnston's excellent analysis of the history of the whole dossier and indeed quite a lot about politicians and PIE, together with large photos of Geoffrey Dickens and Leon Brittain and their respective wives.  EDIT: I see you've already linked that, Bluth, but yes, a whole physical pageful of this stuff... in the fecking Telegraph!

They're trying, Gawd bless them.

Ambient Sheep

Quote from: George Oscar Bluth II on July 04, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
Big laugh at the first reply in that thread

Haha oh God, I didn't see that!  I just googled directly for my post and found it, and being in a hurry (which I still am, shouldn't be here right now) didn't re-read the rest of the thread.


Quote from: wokeonawhalescock on July 04, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
QuoteOFFICIAL. Cliff Richard has revoked his UK passport and become a Barbados citizen. UK has no extradition treaty with Barbados.

https://twitter.com/blamedandshamed/status/484761742044856320

Fucking hell!!!!!

MojoJojo

To be fair, he did that 5 years ago, and it's probably more to do with tax than anything. Unless he stops touring the extradition thing isn't really relevant.

SetToStun

That's old news - 2010 that all happened, so not clearly linked with any recent events. Unless he was tipped off - aaah!

EDIT: MojoJojo got there first. Bum!

Dusty Gozongas

I take what Harry Blackwood says/posts with a huge pinch of salt these days. It was great when he was running the local rag and sticking it to The Mandelson but these days it strikes me he's the head of his own personality cult. Runs the local "Wide Awake Club", a rag tag bunch of Jew hating Icke-alikes with a penchant for shitting up facebook with far too many motivational slogans than is healthy IMHO.

Harry Badger

Quote from: Ambient Sheep on July 04, 2014, 04:03:53 PM
Yeah I remember them "printing" that first time round, back in the days before they discovered lawyers.  Maybe again since too.


Me too.  Unlike Savile and certain politicians (and indeed pop-singers), I never heard anything about Harris until recently.  Or maybe they did print it and one just dismissed it as "Oh come ON now..." and forgot about it.

Just went to search the Popbitch archives by googling site:popbitch.com/home/ "rolf harris" only to be greeted with "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe.".  That new law came just at the right time for them, didn't it, just at the right time... perhaps this is what Bell Pottinger get paid for?

I used to go on Popbitch quite a lot and remember some mention of Rolf Harris being a small bean regarder but cannot for the life of me remember the details, other than that his daughter was mentioned, and something about the back of a car.

The book 'Dog Eat Dog: Confessions of a Tabloid Journalist' by Wensley Clarkson (must have been published twenty odd years ago) mentions a senior Tory who was caught with extreme child porn but that it was hushed up and no-one could publish anything. Private Eye used to drop hints about Brittan, sure I saw some stuff on here.

billtheburger

Quote from: Ambient Sheep on July 04, 2014, 04:03:53 PM
only to be greeted with "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe.".  That new law came just at the right time for them, didn't it, just at the right time... perhaps this is what Bell Pottinger get paid for?
To circumnavigate that bullshit search from google.com/ncr

Jijifranko

#85
More from Rev. Goatboy (via Digital Spy):

QuoteWhilst on a short holiday courtesy of the Queen, we were indulging in the popular pastime of 'Unluckiest Bloke In Here', which was often awarded to myself, when a new arrival from a neighbouring nick said that his ex-cell mate *had* to be The Unluckiest Bloke In The Entire ****ing System.

The gent in question was a career burglar - he specialised in stately homes and the like. And, by all accounts, he was good at it. Anyway, whilst doing a job in some grandee's mansion, he'd been rumbled. Fair cop, etc. A great believer in 'If you can't do the time' etc, he was undaunted by the prospect of 18 months to two years in the pokey - this being the expected sentence by both his knowing friends and his brief.

Dawns the trial, however, and his circumstances have changed. To such an extent that he really doesn't want to do *any* time just now. So he decides to play his Get Out Of Jail Card.

On a job a while before, he'd come across some photos of A High Up Politician and very young boys, and had kept them for a rainy day. Deciding that today's court appearance is very inclement, he pulls out the envelope and shows his brief, who shows it to the prosecution. They approach the judge. The judge immediately adjourns to the following day.

Next day a chap appears replacing our boy's brief and says, "I'm looking out for you now. Don't worry, it's sorted." Our lad winks at his girlfriend, and goes to sleep for the rest of the trial. The judge sums up and says, "This is by far and away the worst case of burglary I've ever seen and as such deserves the maximum sentence. 12 years. Take him down.'

The man in the pics? The same former Tory minister.

EDIT: I believe the Tory minister is meant to be the same as the one in the story GOBII posted.


biggytitbo

Quote from: Ambient Sheep on July 04, 2014, 04:04:05 PM


I've just looked at the paper version of the Telegraph over lunch, and the above isn't hidden away anywhere (not that you said it was), amazingly it's the left-hand column of page 1!!  (Albeit under airport terror shite as the main headline.)  The story continues on page 6, together with Philip Johnston's excellent analysis of the history of the whole dossier and indeed quite a lot about politicians and PIE, together with large photos of Geoffrey Dickens and Leon Brittain and their respective wives.  EDIT: I see you've already linked that, Bluth, but yes, a whole physical pageful of this stuff... in the fecking Telegraph!

They're trying, Gawd bless them.


It's because I think a sacrifice is been lined up...

monkfromhavana

Quote from: biggytitbo on July 04, 2014, 06:54:20 PM

It's because I think a sacrifice is been lined up...

That may be the case, but once one politician has been fed to the press, people are going to be asking "who else?" just like they did with the entertainers.

Cameron must be sweating. He can't not do anything, he can't admit to it, especially not with an election coming up next year. He could call for an inquiry, but then you're opening pandora's box and giving the accusers and voice and legitimacy that they haven't been afforded so far.

biggytitbo

Quote from: monkfromhavana on July 04, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
That may be the case, but once one politician has been fed to the press, people are going to be asking "who else?" just like they did with the entertainers.

Cameron must be sweating. He can't not do anything, he can't admit to it, especially not with an election coming up next year. He could call for an inquiry, but then you're opening pandora's box and giving the accusers and voice and legitimacy that they haven't been afforded so far.


By the same token they can't not give us a sacrifice as the story is just getting too big. It's a calculated risk.