Inherent Vice (New Paul Thomas Anderson)

[Noodle Lizard]

I'll go and see this today, I think.  Haven't seen or read anything about it, so I'm going in completely cold.  I have a love/hate relationship with PTA - when he hits, he really hits but etc. - so we shall see.

[Johnny Textface]

So what did you think Mr Lizard?

[Sam]

I wonder if in a break with tradition he'll be underwhelmed?

[Noodle Lizard]

So what did you think Mr Lizard?

I didn't get round to seeing it.  Seems every time I announce I'm off to see something on here it dooms me to six months or so of not seeing it.

I wonder if in a break with tradition he'll be underwhelmed?

Me with my standards.

[Bored of Canada]

I can't believe you chose to watch St Vincent instead of this, even though we all said it was a big pile of shit.

[Garam]

PTA's a guest on WTF with Marc Maron later today sometime...

Edit: It's already out

[Bored of Canada]

PTA's a guest on WTF with Marc Maron later today sometime...

Edit: It's already out

Just like Paul Thomas Anderson's films, I reckon WTF could lose an hour out of every episode.
Especially if they're only 50 minutes.

[Small Man Big Horse]

This has leaked online now, all over my sexy face.

[Tom Pynchon's Photo]

indeed it has.


As you may be able to guess by my nickname I've taken an interest in this film. But less for the Pynchon side of things, more because of PTA being a film maker I like and could possibly love. I choose the nickname (which I now hate and have semi retired) years ago whilst flogging myself by reading Mason and Dixon, and not long after taking on Vineland and V. Suffice to say at the time I had a slightly obsessive interest in the man and his work. That interest subsided somewhat since and I haven't even bothered to attempt to read Inherent Vice (well, to be exact I might have attempted to read it weren't it for Against The Day taking my time and testing my patience to the max and making me vow never again when it came to Pynchon's work).

Over xmas I chanced upon a website streaming movies that it shouldn't be streaming (I don't mean porn here, less anyone be that basic, just normal films you see at your big screen/art house cinema of choice) and yesterday Inherent Vice turned up on its list. Haven't watched the full thing yet though, I just watched the first twenty minutes to get the vibe. First impression - Katherine Watterson. Yes.

I would link to the movie, but I won't, not yet anyway. Don't wanna get this place in trouble. That's if linking would get it in trouble (like I said, streaming site, not downloading). If it won't, I'll link.

[Steven]

I would link to the movie, but I won't, not yet anyway. Don't wanna get this place in trouble. That's if linking would get it in trouble (like I said, streaming site, not downloading). If it won't, I'll link.

I hear porn is available on the internet also, can you confirm?

[chocky909]

Available on DVD Screener before UK cinema release. Missed the boat there guys!

[Tom Pynchon's Photo]

you know, I thought people would think that. But it wasn't something that came to me until several minutes after posting. Yeah, I'm that stupid. That's not what I meant. I meant basically it got films on there like inherent vice that only got realised i cinemas in states in recent days and weeks and not made it over here yet. Actually they don;t want you watching any film on there I guess, its all copyrighted. Not porn, no. I shall have to go back and edit my previous reply to cease that suggestion. Although I can suggest a few that provide that service. And I guess that's copyrighted material as well.

[Noodle Lizard]

Whoever's uploaded these latest screeners has done a really shitty job.  You'd think someone with the wherewithal to pirate a screener would know about basic export settings, and yet the quality of these rips aren't much better than a CAM copy.

Some people on the comments are saying the academies send out poor quality copies to try and prevent piracy, but that's a bunch of nonsense.  I've had official screener DVDs before and they've always been fine save for the obligatory "For Your Consideration" watermarks.  The only safeguard BAFTA ever put in place was to make the DVDs so they could only be played on a specially-designed DVD player, which they'd send to you along with the movies.  It was a monolithic machine which barely worked and they scrapped it after one or two years.

[Blinder Data]

You pirating buggers. I'm saving this for when it comes out, so that I can enjoy it on a huge screen with a great sound system, smugly in the knowledge that such patronage supports future Pynchon/PTA films. May your fuzzy rip buffer eternally.

Of course you may go see it in the cinema as well, but then you'd be doing it the wrong way round.

[Johnny Textface]

Pay for it you horrible buggers!

[chocky909]

Well I watched the first 20 minutes and got easily distracted despite its obvious quality so I might wait for the cinema release so I am forced to watch it all in one go and in full glory. I'm annoyed I was weak. There are also screeners of Big Hero 6, Birdman and Nightcrawler available. All of which I'd rather watch at the pix or on Bluray.

[Small Man Big Horse]

Yeah, I quit after 15 minutes or so as the dvd screener was of such a poor quality, especially when it comes to sound. Which is a shame as I can't afford to go to the cinema to see it, so will have to wait until a decent release leaks. A shocking state of affairs, I think we can all agree, and I appreciate all of your forthcoming sympathy!

[Sam]

It's indeed shocking. Experimental cinema should be available for all.

SMBH, pm me your account details if you like and I'll bung you a tenner. I'm not flush myself but I love PTA!

[Junglist]

RE: screeners, they're all encodes from shitty m4v files that were rushed out. There are better quality releases coming out currently, direct from a dvd source.

Also Inherent Vice copy is cropped to fuckery on the bottom, you're missing a good chunk of the picture.

[Small Man Big Horse]

SMBH, pm me your account details if you like and I'll bung you a tenner. I'm not flush myself but I love PTA!

That's an incredibly kind offer good sir, but I'll be alright thanks. Sure I'll manage to scrape the pennies together / whore myself out sooner or later.

[Paisley]

PTA's a guest on WTF with Marc Maron later today sometime...

Edit: It's already out

Really enjoyed this. Had no idea that PTA had David Foster Wallace as an English teacher whilst at Emerson College. When Worlds Collide, huh?

[fatguyranting]

I just discovered that the beautiful doe eyed hippie chick (I'm aware this describes every female character in the film) who bins off Doc because she's 'into bikers', is none other then Belledonna. The freak queen of pornography who recently quit the business as a result of a mad herpes outbreak that makes her later work somewhat difficult to watch. Great casting and a great perfomance, I hope she breaks out with this (actress wise, rather then herpes) beacuse I thought she was great.

[Sam]

makes her later work somewhat difficult to watch.

Not sure if her earlier work was easy viewing to be fair.

[Paisley]

BREAKING NEWS: Chavs creator, Owen Jones, walked out on this:

https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/561452800488771584

[non capisco]

I bloody loved it. Themes of romantic fatalism and end of an era disillusionment bubbling under a gleefully convoluted hard boiled detective plot + laffs. Yes! Lapped this film up and can't wait to see it again.

[Waking Life]

I enjoyed it, but I didn't really like the laffs, although I'm aware PTA was purposefully going for a Cheech and Chong vibe. And ZAZ too apparently, with the sight gags.

It's obviously a different film, but it didn't help that I'd seen The Long Goodbye for the first time in the cinema a couple of weeks ago. I found myself thinking more about that when the credits rolled. Didn't stay with me in the way The Master and TWBB did. And not really sure about some of the gender politics, intentional satire or otherwise.

But I did like it. Just not the classic I'd hoped for.

[non capisco]

And ZAZ too apparently, with the sight gags.

PTA has actually cited Police Squad! as a direct influence.

It had me from the end of the first scene. Her driving away and him yearning to be in that car still with her with the camera pulling away from him and then the title flashes up, soundtracked by Can's 'Vitamin C' no less. Oof! Cinema. Why I still go.

[paolozzi]

Saw this today. I noticed that when I was trying to actually follow the plot, I wasn't enjoying the film so I just let go and it became a lot easier to penetrate. There is still a lot of parts I didn't understand, but I loved the ebb and flow of the film and the comedy landed pretty well.

Plus the build up to that sex scene is pretty fantastic.

[Wet Blanket]

Surprised by how dark and melancholy it was, and the tone of dry absurdity rather than freeform weirdness. The only Pynchon I've read is Crying of Lot 49, and based on that I expected Inherent Vice to be a lot wilder and stranger. But then apparently the book, too, is his most straightforward and accessible. 

[Canted_Angle]

I went to see this film after smoking a joint and left the film feeling more stoned than when I went in. It was hilarious visceral confusing and absurd. Everything I'd hoped for from a Pynchon adaption. I may just watch it again tonight.