'Batman' Fathers 4 Justice protestor at Buckingham Palace

[Mr Flunchy]

Tch.  This is obviously a publicity stunt for the new film.

[Harfyyn Teuport]

INT. Fathers 4 Justice HQ

Chief: Come in
Man: Oh, hello, my name's David Jennings and since my divorce I'd had practically no access to my children.
Chief: Have you got any visitation rights at all?
Man: Hardly any.
Chief: Ok, and what about a Batman costume?
Man: Sorry?
Chief: Batman, David. Orphaned as a boy, he was forever instilled with a pact of vengeance to fight injustice all his life. His costume, David, have you got it?
Man: What's he got to do wi-
Chief: NEXT!

Man: Hello, my name is Mark Rogers, and I haven't seen my children in two years.
Chief: I see. Say, Mark, how do you feel about the caped crusader some call the dark knight....

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

I hope John Sullivan's watching, it'd make a great episode of "Only Fools and Horses".

I say shoot him.  And shoot his kids as well.

[Jaffa The Cake]

I was there before the camera crews were - was in the middle of showing my girlfriend round the sights of London. Took some nice pictures that you may want to mong... I'll upload them when I get half a chance.

EDIT: Oh, there's the chance.

Uploading now (11mb) should be done in 10 mins. Get the pics at http://www.larndan.e7even.com/batman.zip

Probably should crop / recompress etc, but can't be arsed at the moment.

[Alberon]

They should have shot the twat.

I think that pressure group is right about a very serious problem and I thought the first few times they did it was a good way of raising conciousness about it. If someone climbs a crane to protest it makes the local news. If someone dressed as Spiderman climbs a crane, the national press are interested.

But they are pissing me off now. They've passed the point where they're doing more damage than good for their cause.

[Pinball]

If the government listened to their POV maybe they'd stop. Even so, I agree that they have an odd way of venting their spleens. But who cares about fathers eh?

[Purple Tentacle]

Well I say good for them. They make me chuckle, and it's a damn sight better way of bringing your agenda to the public conciousness than blowing yourself up on a bus.

I got all shitty when I heard some Johnny Foreigner on the news say "In my country we would shoot him"...... yes, well in this country we have a thing called the right to peaceful protest, and we don't run people over in tanks.

[notnotnatnats]

Is he down yet? I had to watch this crap on sky news all through dinner. They should bring back hanging.

[Purple Tentacle]

You missed the live "rescue" on Channel 4 News?

By christ it was exciting. He took his mask off you know. (This was at about 7:20)

[Beagle 2]

Yeah, I watched him being winched down live. I wish I had a job.

The cause is noble enough I suppose, but I shouldn't wonder if the child of the disgruntled father's going to get his head kicked in at school for having such an arse of a dad.

Most women aren't the vindictive bitches that they're made out to be by people like the UK mens movement. You have to wonder how bad the marriage was for parents to resort to having a judge controlling their family life.

Well, every situation is different, I was the subject of a custody battle when my parents seperated, and the whole thing was a mess of solicitors letters and rowing (and nobody telling muggins what was going on), before my dad realised I thought his new wife was a massive slag and decided i'd be better off annoying my mother than him. It doesn't take an Ike and Tina situation for a Judges to start getting involved. If i'd have turned on the TV to see him pissing around in a batman outfit, I doubt I would have ever spoken to him again.

Did anyone happen to see why the founder of FFJ got banned from seeing his kids? It seemed fair enough really, as he admitted to being a violent alcholic tosser who had brought it all on himself.

[Ambient Sheep]

Spiderman-Dad was arrested again at the weekend for doing his thing on a gantry over the M4 (I think. Much too lazy to look it up)

I don't know if it's the same one but there was a Spiderman doing the London Eye over the weekend, closing it for two or three days.  I'll tell you now, he can fuck RIGHT off.  I'm planning to take Torty up on it sometime soon, and if she goes and drives 200+ miles from fucking Swansea only to find the ride closed because of some arsehole Dad on the top of it, I'll climb up there and push the fucker off myself.

[untitled_london]

because any half decent mother wouldn't turn to cheap publicity stunts.

burning bras (greer inspired rubbish)
tossing yourself under a horse (sffragettes)
tacky soft porn calendar (WI)
sitting in a car on a bridge for a week and not eating (googling for details)
how about wardrobe malfunctions (whasherface)
how about camping outside an air base for 19 years (greenham common)

all equally tacky yet somwhow revered (with the exception of the wardrobe malfunction).

persoanlly i think the cause is just, the methods daft enough to get attention & air time.
wether or not the people involved are "worthy" seems to me to be beside the point.

[chand]

wether or not the people involved are "worthy" seems to me to be beside the point.

But it is about the character and worthiness of the people, surely? They've been banned from seeing their kids, presumably for a reason, and we can't make a judgement til we know what the reasons are. Every case has to be judged on its merits, and this kind of crass FFJ stuntery disguises that fact to some extent.

[TJ]

As I was saying...

Leave 'em alone, you bunch of smug fuckers. They're getting out there and making their voices heard over something that they passionately believe in (and I was under the impression that their 'bee'f is with the government and the law courts, not womankind), which is slightly more admirable than spending your days hoping that posting links to scarcely credible War Against Terror conspiracy sites will somehow provoke the downfall of Blair and Bush.

I'm reminded of the old Alexei Sayle routine about the futility of graffiti - "as if Mrs Thatcher's going to be walking past a railway bridge and think 'oh, jobs not bombs, righto!" - and the internet is the new graffiti. Agree or disagree with their aims and indeed their methods, we could do with a lot more people with their determination and desire to rock the boat. Stop The War, who in their own way were every bit as disorganised and unfocused (and yes, I did attend the protests and saw it all first hand) have been the only real equivalent to the old style of protest-demonstration in the last decade or so, and even that's pushing it a bit. I mean, it took a *war* to get people protesting about something they believed was unjust?

(NB most of the posts by the 'smug fuckers' have been lost, but I think the point still stands)

And:

These guys are getting worse treatment from *everyone* than Twatty Comedian did for breaching Royal security. And that isn't on, frankly.

Or indeed than the pro-hunting berks will.

[Margaret Thatcher]

Simon cowell could make a bit of money out of this.

Hows this sound? A show where you have to sing as best as you can, the winner gets access to their children for a week!

No? Watch him do it anyway.

[jutl]

As I was saying...

Leave 'em alone, you bunch of smug fuckers. They're getting out there and making their voices heard over something that they passionately believe in (and I was under the impression that their 'bee'f is with the government and the law courts, not womankind), which is slightly more admirable than spending your days hoping that posting links to scarcely credible War Against Terror conspiracy sites will somehow provoke the downfall of Blair and Bush.

I'm reminded of the old Alexei Sayle routine about the futility of graffiti - "as if Mrs Thatcher's going to be walking past a railway bridge and think 'oh, jobs not bombs, righto!" - and the internet is the new graffiti. Agree or disagree with their aims and indeed their methods, we could do with a lot more people with their determination and desire to rock the boat. Stop The War, who in their own way were every bit as disorganised and unfocused (and yes, I did attend the protests and saw it all first hand) have been the only real equivalent to the old style of protest-demonstration in the last decade or so, and even that's pushing it a bit. I mean, it took a *war* to get people protesting about something they believed was unjust?

(NB most of the posts by the 'smug fuckers' have been lost, but I think the point still stands)

And:

These guys are getting worse treatment from *everyone* than Twatty Comedian did for breaching Royal security. And that isn't on, frankly.

Or indeed than the pro-hunting berks will.

Well if we're recapping, I'll try to take this opportunity to repeat my points in a reasonable number of words.

(a) They're making themselves look like twats and their cause look like a joke - which it isn't.

(b) Many other causes deserve just as much or more attention.

[Margaret Thatcher]

Orgy, porn and cruelty
shame of Palace Batman

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THE girlfriend who dumped Batman protestor Jason Hatch today reveals how he lured her into an orgy then mentally abused her while she was pregnant with their daughter.

Gemma Polson exposes the dark and sleazy side of the Fathers 4 Justice campaigner who hit the headlines this week after his ledge protest at Buckingham Palace.

She lifts the lid on Hatch's secret addiction to porn and his collection of thousands of sick hardcore films—and how he made her watch them while they were in bed together.

And she tells of the day she was searching his mobile to see if he'd taken any loving pictures of their baby girl—only to find snaps of his penis he had mailed to another woman.

Rage

"Jason wants people to think 'What a poor guy' and 'How can these women put this superhero through so much pain?'" says Gemma, 20, who walked out on Hatch before his latest stunt in his fight for access to two of his children.

"Now I want the world to know the truth about him—how he used me for sex, lied to me and emotionally abused me."

Beautician Gemma reveals how 32-year-old Hatch:

FLEW into a rage when she fell down the stairs heavily pregnant—because her cries interrupted him while he was giving a TV interview.

SCALED a bridge in one of his Fathers 4 Justice protests while she was rushed to hospital with suspected blood clots only days from their daughter Amelia's birth

PINNED her against a garden fence and threatened her after discovering she'd seen what was on his phone, and

SHOCKED her mother Sharon minutes after Amelia was born by telling her: "That is two whingeing bitches I will have to listen to now."

Raven-haired Gemma's ordeal with Hatch began two years ago after she dated his flatmate.

"I was seeing him on and off and met Jason through him," she says. "We had finished but were still mates— and one night Jason invited me back to their place.

"We had been drinking and Jason started kissing me in front of my ex.

"The next thing I knew Jason and I were having sex while my ex was egging us on. Then my ex started doing things with me while Jason watched.

"Looking back at it I feel sick that this happened but I was only a teenager at the time.

"Now I realise Jason was just using me. After that night he kicked his flatmate out and moved me in.

"But I should have known something was wrong from the start. I didn't realise then, but Jason was addicted to porn and he had thousands of hardcore DVDs and videos.

He is very proud of his collection and used to stack them up next to his TV and kept the rest in binbags in the loft. Most nights he would get me to watch a filthy film with him in bed so he could get turned on.

"He would spend hours watching them—it was like an obsession to him."

But their love life waned when Gemma got pregnant. And she says the following months with the surly decorator were the worst of her life.

"He showed no affection and gave me no support when I was depressed," she said. "The pregnancy was a big shock to me—but he didn't care.

"Jason was getting too wrapped up in his Fathers 4 Justice fame. He showed no excitement the whole time I was pregnant. I felt terribly alone."

When she fell down the stairs at their home in Cheltenham, Gloucs, while he was giving a TV interview in the lounge, she couldn't believe his reaction.

"I called out to him—I was so scared that the baby was hurt. But he was just furious that I had interrupted him.

"I wanted to go to hospital because I couldn't feel the baby moving but he was against it. In the end he reluctantly took me. He had to cancel one of his meetings. I found out the baby was OK— but he didn't talk to me all night."

Just days before Gemma was due to give birth, Hatch chose to take part in a Fathers 4 Justice protest on Bristol's Clifton Suspension Bridge.

"I hadn't been well and felt very disappointed he was doing this rather than staying with me," she says.

"He was arrested and while he was in custody I was taken into hospital with suspected blood clots on my leg. It turned out that I was OK but I was terrified."

Gemma gave birth in February at Cheltenham General Hospital, accompanied by Hatch and her mother Sharon.

Mrs Polson, 42, said Hatch showed no signs of emotion at becoming a father again.

"He was not like a father who has just had a child—there was no joy or feeling in his eyes," she said.

Bitches

"I can't remember him cuddling the baby. I just felt he was not there for Gemma.

"I remember being taken aback by what he said—'That is two whingeing bitches I will have to listen to now.'"

Gemma hoped she, Hatch and their baby would start to become a proper family—but Hatch had other ideas. And with Amelia barely 10 weeks old, the relationship was dealt a fatal blow.

"He asked me to look for a number on his phone. I knew he had taken pictures of Amelia with it so I stopped to flick through them," says Gemma.

Instead she found a picture of his penis, which had been sent to an unknown number with the message, "That's what I'm going to **** in you".

Gemma says: "He denied that it was of him and said it was a joke sent to his mates —but I later phoned the number to see who had got it.

"It was a girl the same age as me. I knew her. She worked in a bar that Jason went to."

When she confronted Hatch with what she knew he exploded with rage and chased her into the garden.

"I had his phone—he didn't like it. He pinned me up against the fence, shouting 'Give me the ****ing phone'. I was terrified—I didn't know what he was going to do.

"Fortunately a neighbour came out and that stopped things from going any further."

Once again Hatch had lied to her—the man who portrays himself as an honest man fighting for the rights of separated fathers to see their children.

"He lied to me about his other children and his other relationships and even now, after we have split up, I still don't know the truth," says Gemma. "He would lie about his age—he told me he was three years younger than he actually is—and other things as well.

"When I first met him he told me he'd only been married once but I found solicitors' papers that told me otherwise, and to top that off how many other children has he fathered?

"How can he do this and lie to the woman he said he loved? He has devastated me and put me through so much pain."

Hatch's reaction to Gemma's post-natal depression was beyond belief for someone who likes posing as a caring family man—he told her she was going mad.

"I was suffering from the baby blues—and when I was crying he wouldn't comfort me," she says.

"All he said was I had a problem, I was going mad or losing my marbles. I started to think it might be true."

As the arguments worsened, Hatch taunted Gemma, saying he did not love her any more.

"I didn't know where to go," she adds. "He rang my parents and said, 'You need to get here now. She is going off her trolley'."

A month ago the couple tried to give the relationship another go—but after two days Gemma realised it had no future and walked out.

"I needed someone who was there for me—but he had too much going on for Fathers For Justice and could not commit to me," she says.

Displaying a maturity far ahead of her years—and light years ahead of Hatch— Gemma says she never wants to deny him access to his daughter.

Court

"Everything that Fathers 4 Justice stands for, I agree with," she says. "There are thousands of fathers in this country who have been denied access to their children unfairly.

"These are good dads who need to have an input into the upbringing of their children."

Gemma still thinks Hatch could be a good dad—even though he only pays her a measly £20 a week towards Am-elia's upbringing. But whenever she tries to negotiate visiting times with Hatch she says he simply threatens her with court action.

"He demands what days he should see Amelia. If I disagree with any of it, he just says 'Fine, I will see you in court'."

Yet on the day he was swaggering about that ledge at Buckingham Palace, he had arranged an access visit to baby Amelia.

Since then it has been revealed that twice-married Hatch has a teenage daughter from yet another relationship.

Gemma was gobsmacked when she found out.

"He just beds women, has children with them, then moves on," she says. "How can he leave them destroyed like that?

"The world saw him in his Batman outfit last week and treated him like a hero.

"But I have seen Jason Hatch's true colours—and it makes me sick."

[Harfyyn Teuport]

"That's what I'm going to **** in you"

Eh? He's going to what? How would that work exactly?

[The Plaque Goblin]

'CHILDREN ARE EMBARRASSED OF THEIR DAD'

10:30 - 06 December 2004

Fathers 4 Justice campaigner Dave Pyke is driving his children away with his publicity stunts, according to his ex-wife.

Heather Linton, 28, said her former husband is alienating his son and daughter with his antics and that if he loved them he would abandon his campaign to get full custody. "They hate what he's doing - so much so they don't want to see him at all," she said. "They wish he'd go away.

"If he loved his children, he wouldn't be putting them through all this embarrassment."

It has been four years since the couple divorced, after four years of marriage.

Their break-up, in August 2000, was initially amicable. But, a month later, when Heather started seeing postman Paul Linton, the battle for custody began.

Heather now has a residence order and Mr Pyke, 48, sees the children at weekends.

But their rows have not stopped. Mr Pyke said his ex-wife has stopped him seeing his children 12 times in the last two years.

He said: "My children understand why I'm doing this and they support me 100 per cent."

But Heather said she has only ever refused him access to let the children settle down after an upsetting incident, such as a row or one of his F4J stunts.

She said: "The first time we found out about David's stunts was when we saw him on TV, protesting on a bridge. Our son said he didn't want to see him again because he was embarrassed. My daughter was so furious she has cut his face out of family photographs.

"I can't wait for them to turn 16 so they can make up their own minds about whether they want to see him. Then we'll see who is telling the truth."

The couple met when Heather was 16. Within weeks of their meeting, she had moved in with him. By February she was pregnant.

"I met David through a mutual friend," she said. "Compared with teenage boys I went out with before, he seemed exciting. He had money, a sporty car and his own home. He treated me like an adult, not a child.

"My parents didn't approve when I told them I was seeing an older man. David is only four or five years younger than my dad. But I would not listen to them. I'd fallen in love with him. Back then, he treated me nicely and when I fell pregnant he was delighted."

During her pregnancy in 1993, they moved in with her parents in Cheltenham. When their daughter was nine months old, they moved into a housing association flat in a village outside the town.

But Heather was lonely. She said she was not allowed to see her friends. After five months, she moved back in with her parents.

She said: "As far as I was concerned the relationship was over. My parents were delighted because they'd never liked him."

But the teenager agreed to a reconciliation for the sake of their daughter.

Mr Pyke bought a house for them in River Leys, and she agreed to marry him in July 1996.

She went back to college to study for GCSEs and train to become a chef.

When their son was born in September 1997, the family's future seemed settled.

But Mr Pyke was made redundant from his job as manager for a tile company.

Heather went to work as an auxiliary nurse. She said her husband refused to look for a job, but he insists it was a mutual decision for him to stay home with the children.

He said: "When I was made redundant, we discussed it and both decided that it would be better if I stayed at home with the children while Heather went out to work.

"Being younger, she had more earning years ahead of her and it was something that she wanted to do."

In August 2000, Heather took the children and returned to her family's home.

The estranged couple tried to stay friendly but when she started seeing Paul Linton, he took custody of the children and refused to let Heather take them home.

In February 2001 Heather was awarded a residence order and took the children to live in Birmingham and then Stafford.

For three weeks Mr Pyke did not see his children. He was distraught. He vowed that until the law is changed, he will carry on protesting.

He said: "When I joined F4J I told the children and they were pleased because they were upset when their mother stopped them from seeing me.

"I'm not doing these stunts just for the sake of it. There is no other way for fathers like me."

[imitationleather]

Tsk. They'll change their tune in ten years time when they realise what a great icebreaker it'll be at parties.

Blummin' kids.

[Pinball]

Gosh what high calibre individuals.

[Santa's Boyfriend]

I'm still waiting for DC Comics to sue him.