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Re: Quickest Fall From Fame
« Reply #900 on: April 14, 2019, 06:08:01 PM »
I loved that line in Ben Goldacre's book:

Dr Gillian McKeith PhD. Or, to give her her full medical title: Gillian McKeith.

not trying to diss Ben Goldacre, but I think that was a Jeremy Hardy line.

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« Reply #901 on: April 14, 2019, 10:15:00 PM »
Regarding the Joey Deacon thing, I recall "Walter" being another case of a disabled character from TV being used by kids as insult material.

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« Reply #902 on: April 14, 2019, 10:49:17 PM »
Regarding the Joey Deacon thing, I recall "Walter" being another case of a disabled character from TV being used by kids as insult material.

makes it amusing watching The Wresting now, when there's a huge, not very chiselled lad called Walter who just fucking leathers people and doesn't really speak much




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« Reply #903 on: April 14, 2019, 10:57:46 PM »
Regarding the Joey Deacon thing, I recall "Walter" being another case of a disabled character from TV being used by kids as insult material.
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« Reply #904 on: April 14, 2019, 11:49:49 PM »
I loved that line in Ben Goldacre's book:

Dr Gillian McKeith PhD. Or, to give her her full medical title: Gillian McKeith.

He also bought the same worthless phd McKeith had for his cat.

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« Reply #905 on: April 15, 2019, 11:19:04 PM »
Re: John Leslie, isn't his real name John Stott (oh Davey!) and didnt he nick the name from a historic Edinburgh pub?

I do know that back in the mid-90s, he drove a new-ish Porsche with an expired tax disc. If he hadn't been nice to me (I was working at a radio production company at the time and he'd come in to do a voiceover for something), I'd've grassed him up.

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« Reply #906 on: April 16, 2019, 10:43:06 AM »
He also bought the same worthless phd McKeith had for his cat.

Even better than that, his dead cat.

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« Reply #907 on: April 16, 2019, 11:52:16 PM »
Angelos Epithemiou had a rapid fall from being good.

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« Reply #908 on: April 21, 2019, 03:19:26 AM »
Can't be buggered going through all 31 pages so he may have already been mentioned, but Vaughan Meader's F from F was not only swift and complete but can be accurately dated: Nov 22, 1963.

In the early 60s Meader, after several years of trying to make it as a musician, decided to give stand-up a go.  He had been playing clubs for a few months to no great acclaim when two comedy writers came to see him.  They had penned a series of sketches about JFK and had heard that Meader not only did a passable impersonation of the president but also looked a little like him too.

The sketches were recorded and released as an album called The First Family in late 1962.  The record was a smash beyond all belief, expectations and indeed common sense, selling a million copies a week for nearly two months, requiring shops to open longer to accommodate the queues and turning Meader into a household name.

And then a Dallas admin worker called Lee Harvey Oswald, who also did a JFK impression and was jealous he hadn't got the gig (that's my theory - disprove it if you can), cooked up a scheme to scupper Meader's career.  It worked like a charm.  The First Family was recalled and deleted, and Meader, with so little experience and no personal following to capitalise upon, floundered and returned to playing the piano in small bars.

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« Reply #909 on: April 21, 2019, 01:57:29 PM »
Can't be buggered going through all 31 pages so he may have already been mentioned, but Vaughan Meader's F from F was not only swift and complete but can be accurately dated: Nov 22, 1963.

In the early 60s Meader, after several years of trying to make it as a musician, decided to give stand-up a go.  He had been playing clubs for a few months to no great acclaim when two comedy writers came to see him.  They had penned a series of sketches about JFK and had heard that Meader not only did a passable impersonation of the president but also looked a little like him too.

The sketches were recorded and released as an album called The First Family in late 1962.  The record was a smash beyond all belief, expectations and indeed common sense, selling a million copies a week for nearly two months, requiring shops to open longer to accommodate the queues and turning Meader into a household name.

And then a Dallas admin worker called Lee Harvey Oswald, who also did a JFK impression and was jealous he hadn't got the gig (that's my theory - disprove it if you can), cooked up a scheme to scupper Meader's career.  It worked like a charm.  The First Family was recalled and deleted, and Meader, with so little experience and no personal following to capitalise upon, floundered and returned to playing the piano in small bars.

That's good post but a sad story.

 Being known for impersonating just one contemporary public figure is always a poisoned chalice because while one can make hay while the sun shines as soon as that person has died, resigned or been disgraced, the show's over. Steve Nallon, springs to mind, the best Maggie Thatcher impersonator of the lot, (Janet Brown a close second), but his profile never really gained much traction post-1990.  Who wants this schtick anymore?
Conversely, you've got Mark Tedford as Thatch performing a highly regarded successful comedy game show in 2019.  Nallon must look on this reinvention with great interest, I would've thought?

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« Reply #910 on: April 21, 2019, 03:21:34 PM »
Speaking about John Leslie. What about FredAbi Titmuss? Is she still around? She weren't bad in that bliff vid with the dark lady.

All I remember about that was the following exchange:

Leslie: What's she doing to you Abi?
Titmuss: She's being very naughty. She's got her tongue up my arsehole.

I also believe Leslie to have been wanking throughout, just out of shot.

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« Reply #911 on: April 21, 2019, 03:27:27 PM »
That's good post but a sad story.

 Being known for impersonating just one contemporary public figure is always a poisoned chalice because while one can make hay while the sun shines as soon as that person has died, resigned or been disgraced, the show's over. Steve Nallon, springs to mind, the best Maggie Thatcher impersonator of the lot, (Janet Brown a close second), but his profile never really gained much traction post-1990.  Who wants this schtick anymore?
Conversely, you've got Mark Tedford as Thatch performing a highly regarded successful comedy game show in 2019.  Nallon must look on this reinvention with great interest, I would've thought?

Bit like how Rory Bremner never really recovered from Blair stepping down. I remember him being a talking head on news shows quite a bit around the time and repeatedly being asked what he was going to do now.

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« Reply #912 on: April 21, 2019, 03:54:20 PM »
"Cleanliness is next to Godliness!"


""Give us a feel. Let's have one. Hmm? Hmm? One little feel.""

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« Reply #913 on: April 21, 2019, 03:56:36 PM »
Shot his bolt! He's a virgin!

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« Reply #914 on: April 21, 2019, 04:46:22 PM »
Which Channel 4 despresso-drama had 'I want to make a baby!' in it? That was a playground catchphrase at my school.

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« Reply #915 on: April 21, 2019, 06:28:18 PM »
Bit like how Rory Bremner never really recovered from Blair stepping down. I remember him being a talking head on news shows quite a bit around the time and repeatedly being asked what he was going to do now.

I think about the time of the Camerons, Cleggs, Milibands etc , Bremner was bemoaning the fact that they are all too alike with the same PR training and public speaking technique. Beige personalities with no discernible voices, attitudes and tics for an impressionist to hook onto.

Well, that's all changed now the world of politics is one big grotesque cartoon. Careful what you wish for, eh, Rory?

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« Reply #916 on: April 21, 2019, 10:33:13 PM »
I think about the time of the Camerons, Cleggs, Milibands etc , Bremner was bemoaning the fact that they are all too alike with the same PR training and public speaking technique. Beige personalities with no discernible voices, attitudes and tics for an impressionist to hook onto.

Well, that's all changed now the world of politics is one big grotesque cartoon. Careful what you wish for, eh, Rory?

Also isn't it kind of because of bremmners and the like 'satirising' fuck out of every quirk, tick or physical discrepancy, spitting imageifying every cunt that weirds, inst it precicley and only his fault that PR companies only let people that look and think like morph in a suit have a go on politics in the first bastad place? It is isn't it?

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« Reply #917 on: April 21, 2019, 11:07:11 PM »
I do miss Bremner’s Michael Howard though.

“Don’t worry, I won’t hurt you.”

Spot on perfect in one line.

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« Reply #918 on: April 22, 2019, 02:50:11 AM »
Which Channel 4 despresso-drama had 'I want to make a baby!' in it? That was a playground catchphrase at my school.

The same one we were quoting - Walter. Ian McKellen says it to Jim Broadbent in the final scene.

https://youtu.be/Czt5She9azk?t=397

The best scene is definitely the "Let's have one!" scene though.

https://youtu.be/4yDrYPYTWdw?t=364


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Re: Quickest Fall From Fame
« Reply #920 on: April 22, 2019, 02:13:28 PM »
Fucking hell : https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/eggheads-star-cj-de-mooi-is-dying-of-aids-and-about-to-be-left-homeless/ar-BBW9L2g?MSCC=1555901291&ocid=spartandhp

Very classy of them to use pics of him when he was sleeping rough to raise awareness about homelessness to suggest that he's already on the streets.

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« Reply #921 on: April 22, 2019, 06:24:07 PM »
Ah right - I was wondering where the pictures were from

I assumed that the journo had said, pop this sleeping bag on, and look sad on the floor for me mate? Ta

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« Reply #922 on: April 22, 2019, 09:52:49 PM »
Also isn't it kind of because of bremmners and the like 'satirising' fuck out of every quirk, tick or physical discrepancy, spitting imageifying every cunt that weirds, inst it precicley and only his fault that PR companies only let people that look and think like morph in a suit have a go on politics in the first bastad place? It is isn't it?

Sorry PS, I didn't understand your post one iota.

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« Reply #923 on: April 22, 2019, 10:53:36 PM »
Sorry PS, I didn't understand your post one iota.

Yea sorry might have had a bit of bank holiday fever there.
Can't make head nor arse of it myself

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« Reply #924 on: April 23, 2019, 01:27:33 AM »
Ha ha, I kind of got the gist. I often have those Bank Holiday feverish moments.

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« Reply #925 on: April 23, 2019, 05:48:26 AM »
I would like to nominate Jonathan Bennett. Maybe not the quickest but sort of sad. From Lohan love interest in Mean Girls to 'Cake Wars' host to Big Brother contestant. And he hasn't really lost his boyish good looks either.

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« Reply #926 on: April 23, 2019, 09:51:41 AM »
It probably means he is a cunt. I think that is usually what instigates a fall from grace. You can come back from a lot if you make friends, work hard and don't be a cunt to people. Loads of people have fucked up but got second chances because someone pulls some strings.

As for CJ Egghead, he seems like such a fantasist that I find it hard to believe any story involving him

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« Reply #927 on: April 23, 2019, 04:06:25 PM »
I would like to nominate Jonathan Bennett. Maybe not the quickest but sort of sad. From Lohan love interest in Mean Girls to 'Cake Wars' host to Big Brother contestant. And he hasn't really lost his boyish good looks either.

He hasn't been that short of movie work since, to be fair. Most of it low-budget, "straight to video" crap but still work nonetheless. He has been able to milk his Mean Girls role in a few things as well.

As for CJ Egghead, he seems like such a fantasist that I find it hard to believe any story involving him

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« Reply #928 on: April 23, 2019, 04:20:33 PM »
Angelos Epithemiou had a rapid fall from being good.

I suggest you listen to the Angelos and Barry potcast.

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« Reply #929 on: April 23, 2019, 09:31:14 PM »
It probably means he is a cunt. I think that is usually what instigates a fall from grace. You can come back from a lot if you make friends, work hard and don't be a cunt to people. Loads of people have fucked up but got second chances because someone pulls some strings.
Looking at wiki/IMDb he did get evicted first from BB.

In the early 2000s along with Chris Evans, Josh Harnett etc he seemed like future leading man material even if it was for romcoms.  But it turns he came out gay in 2014 so probably known  as a gay in Hollywood well before that. So that probably explains it. A decade is a long time.