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Lesser Known Sequels

Started by SteveDave, June 06, 2015, 07:56:11 PM

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SteveDave

This afternoon in work I fell in a Wikipedia hole & somehow ended up on this-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_Darling

A mid-70s sequel to Alfie where Alan "No don't stop de carnival" Price takes over from Michael "I think we got it there don't you?" It features Vikki Michelle topless! Joan Collins gets them out too.

That Wiki entry is priceless

QuoteAlfie later catches up with the woman from the race and learns her name is Abby and that she is a sophisticated magazine editor.

QuoteShe ignores his protests but then her attempts to mount him fix his back, and he escapes before she succeeds in making actual intimate contact

This leads me to another sequel I didn't know about til recently-

"Look What's Happened To Rosemary's Baby"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBV2NtE87p4

Though I suspect that music isn't the one that went over the OG trailer.

Also I downloaded this piece of "Ugh?"- Easy Rider: The Ride Back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWJ43MxzJM

after hearing about it on the "How Did This Get Made?" podcast

Johnny Textface

I think they made a couple of vod trash Lost Boys sequels. Wasn't there a follow up to The Graduate?

Johnny Textface

Also they were on about making Raging Bull 2 a while back. Not sure if that every appeared though.. Hope not.

DukeDeMondo

Look What Happened To Rosemary's Baby is demented. And pretty rubbish. But worth a gander of an evening.

Do people talk about The Two Jakes, or Chinatown 2, these days? Id say it fits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Jakes

Also Omen IV: The Awakening. Folk assume the saga ended with Damien
Spoiler alert
gettin fuck kicked out him by Jesus
[close]
at the end of Omen III: The Final Conflict, but it did not, because Omen IV: The Awakening.


Brundle-Fly

I suppose this 2010 sequel must be filed alongside the above list of Straight-to-Channel 5 movies now?

Has anybody actually seen it?  It seemed to make as much cultural impact as that 'new' Daphne & Celeste track we were all raving about a few months ago.

The Daphne and Cel... oh never mind.


Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Quote from: DukeDeMondo on June 06, 2015, 08:13:48 PM
Look What Happened To Rosemary's Baby is demented. And pretty rubbish. But worth a gander of an evening.
Does the baby talk with the voice of Bruce Willis?

great_badir

Quote from: DukeDeMondo on June 06, 2015, 08:13:48 PM
Do people talk about The Two Jakes, or Chinatown 2, these days? Id say it fits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Jakes

It's actually pretty good.  Much better than a lot of the critic reviews would have you believe.


Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 06, 2015, 10:21:08 PM
I suppose this 2010 sequel must be filed alongside the above list of Straight-to-Channel 5 movies now?

Has anybody actually seen it?

It sucks ass, big time.  Full disclosure - I'm not actually that keen on the first one either.


Despite being released in a box set with the first one, French Connection 2 still seems to be criminally overlooked, which is a shame cos once you get over the fact that it spoils the ambiguous ending of FC1, what you are left with is a fantastic follow-up with an almighty performance by Gene Hackman, and an ending which is even better than the first.

Phil_A

S Darko. I'd actually completely forgotten until this thread, but there was a straight-to-DVD Donnie Darko sequel that came out seven years after the original, based on his younger sister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEBB7BK41Q

In all honesty, I don't think made it further than 15 minutes in, but the small portion I watched it was pretty, pretty bad. The script tries to imitate the pseudo-profundity of the original but does it so ham-fistedly it makes Richard Kelly's writing sound like Wittgenstein, and the there's none of the sense of style or charm that made the first film bearable. And the filming is soap opera quality.

I think the point where I stopped watching was when the sister and her bitchy friend are approached by a nerdy guy, and the dialogue exchange went something like this:
Bitchy friend: "Are you a gay? You look like a gay." (goes off somewhere)
Sister: "I don't think you look like a gay."

Actual dialogue that someone wrote, there.

Brundle-Fly

The three sequels to Psycho aren't too shabby.

No sequel could fill the shoes of Hitchcock's original but they are all worth investigating. For nothing else, Anthony Perkins gives superb consistent performances in all three movies and there are the fantastic soundtracks, respectively, Jerry Goldsmith's Psycho 2 (1983) and Carter Burwell's Psycho 3 (1986) holding their heads up rather proudly next to Bernard Hermann's original score.

Hmmm, but Psycho 4 (1990) was a last gasp cash in TV movie ( and an ailing Tony Perkins was very frail at this point) but nonetheless, it was a brave attempt to finally give Norman his back story in a series of flashbacks. Worth a look.

I've not seen the recent resurrection of Norman on A&E's Bates Motel.. Much cop?

Have to say, I didn't much go for the 1987 version of Bates Motel with Bud (Harold And Maude) Cort.


great_badir

Return From the River Kwai, directed by Andrew V Mclaglen right at the tail-end of his career, when he was making mostly really really bad films.  Starring Chris Penn, just as he started to put on the terry.  Denhom Elliot and Edward Fox try their best.  Also features one of the Bottoms brothers as an Aussie.  Which says it all.

Brundle-Fly

1978 BRING IT ON!!!



1984  Code... what? Erm..hang on...where's so and so.? Bodie?



1985 Eh? No. Fuck right off.


prwc

The Birds II:Lands End looks like a right laugh. I'll have to watch it. Anything that annoys classic cinema snobs that badly has to be worth a look.

St_Eddie

Quote from: Phil_A on June 06, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
S Darko.

That was the film that jumped straight into my head when I read the title of this thread.  You're not wrong, it's bloody awful.  It took me three viewings to watch the whole thing.  I fell asleep the first time - despite not even being tired.  On the second viewing, my brain insisted that I do something more constructive with my evening (for example, counting the pubes that adorn the floor around the general vicinity of my toilet).  It's pretty much a retelling of the first film; only much, much worse.  The lass who played Donnie's younger sister, Samantha returned for the sequel.  I only mention that because it's pretty much the only thing that I can remember about the film at this point.

I can't imagine that the producers of S. Darko are making much money from the DVD sales.  They're missing a trick though - they should sell it through porn channels.  Sadomasochists will almost certainly get their jollies off watching that particular splatter of sputum.

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 06, 2015, 10:58:13 PM
The three sequels to Psycho aren't too shabby.

Definitely.  They're quite underrated in my opinion.  In fact (and at the risk of coming across as a philistine), I actually prefer Psycho II to the original.  Psycho III is the worst of the bunch but it's worth the price of admission for this scene alone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl-_L0Xbph4

mothman

As far as I'm aware, Codename: Wild Geese has no connection to the first film but is merely cashing in... on a movie from 6 years before. Wild Geese 2 was meant to be a proper sequel and was originally to have starred Richard Burton before he cashed in his chips.

But... never seen that blurb for Wild Geese before! "The best **** mercenaries in the business?" What does that MEAN?? What is meant to go behind the asterisks? Presumably a four-letter swearword.


  • "The best shit mercenaries in the business" suggests they're not actually very good at their jobs.
  • "The best fuck mercenaries..." well, that's a whole other film. Probably made by Private (a Fraserside Holdings Company, don't you know). "The best fucking mercenaries..." would be better but then why use just specifically four asterisks?
  • "The best cunt mercenaries..." and "The best arse mercenaries..." are more of the same. Though starting to vary wildly in content and target audience's sexual orientation.

So that leaves "The best DAMN mercenaries..." which at least makes sense. Was the word "damn" routinely censored in the 1970s? I was there and I've no idea.

St_Eddie

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Quote from: mothman on June 07, 2015, 01:01:32 AMBut... never seen that blurb for Wild Geese before! "The best **** mercenaries in the business?" What does that MEAN?? What is meant to go behind the asterisks? Presumably a four-letter swearword.

Turns out the answer was on Wikipedia this whole time...

Quote from: Wikipedia entry for the film, The Wild GeeseThe poster for The Wild Geese originally had the tagline "The dogs of war... the best four mercenaries in the business".  However, the distributor for the film, Allied Artists, had recently had their CEO replaced after their previous CEO, Walter P Stubbs, lost a bet with the chieftain from a Amazonian tribe whilst he was on his annual holiday.

The new CEO, Jabuti was offended when he noticed the marketing material for The Wild Geese.  Unfortunately, the word 'four' closely resembles what is largely considered to be the worst swear word amongst the people of the Kayapo tribe (the closest translation involves the eldest member of one's family, finding inventive uses for a lubricated paddle).  Jabuti was quick to demand that the offending word be replaced by asterisks.

The released poster now reads "The dogs of war... the best **** mercenaries in the business".  On the Internet, this has led to a lot of discussion and speculation about what word the asterisks could possibly be obscuring.  In the pathetic attempt to be funny, some have even resorted to creating non-existent Wikipedia quotes to explain the mysterious four lettered word.  Such people are quite rightly considered to be amongst the lowest forms of society - worse then the bottom feeders and the anti-Christ herself, Katy Perry.

DukeDeMondo

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 06, 2015, 10:58:13 PM
The three sequels to Psycho aren't too shabby.

Psycho II is fucking brilliant. Brilliant brillaint brillaint. I don't really like the third or fourth films, but II is blindin. And genuinely scary as fuck. 

Shaky

I'll stick my hand up and say that not only do I prefer Psycho II over the original, I prefer Psycho III as well. They're pretty much neck and neck for me. Great bunches of creepy fun, and Perkins gives masterfully twitchy performances in both while keeping Norman just the right side of sympathetic. Part IV is fairly tired, though, and betrayed by it's TV movie origins. Worth watching for completion's sake, mind.

If we're also talking pointless war film sequels directed by Andrew V. McLaglen, add The Dirty Dozen TV follow-ups to the pile. Three of the bastards appeared in the 80s, featuring several of the original cast (Savalas! Borgnine! Marvin! Another guy!) in different roles.

Subtle Mocking

Grease 2, anyone? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grease_2

The most surprising thing to me was that it actually made a profit, albeit not a huge one. It took around $15m at the box office, whereas the original took almost $400m.

Speaking of shit sequels to great films, there's also National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 2 with Cousin bloody Eddie as the main character. A dreadful film but it at least gave us an excellent episode of RedLetterMedia's Best of the Worst

Don_Preston


Serge

I got quite confused yesterday when there was a film in the listings called 'Back To The Planet Of The Apes', which had somehow escaped my attention. It turned out to be two episodes of the TV version edited together, but I like the idea that here may be a whole series of sequels that I was completely unaware of. 'Jurassic Planet Of The Apes' anyone?


The Duck Man

Grease 2 features a song called "Do It For Our Country" where a guy and a girl end up in a nuclear bunker, and the guy tries to convince the girl to have sex with him by telling her that there's been a nuclear attack and they need to have sex as a patriotic act before he goes to war.

I saw a school production of (the original) Grease last year. It's quite a frequent school performance option, but in many respects it's quite an odd choice. Horrible message at the end (change for him!), pelvic thrusts, "the chicks will cream" lyric and more besides.


biggytitbo

That's the kind of farming I'd like to do more of :(

biggytitbo


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Quote from: The Duck Man on June 07, 2015, 12:23:12 PM
Horrible message at the end (change for him!)

Hello ladies reading this I agree that it is a horrible message.

Custard

Single White Female 2 - The Psycho

Because, you know, the psycho in the first one probably wasn't psycho enough!

American Psycho 2

With, somewhat bizarrely, Mila Kunis taking on the mantle

Brundle-Fly

The first film showed so much promise from the great opening title sequence and the invisible gorilla slowly returning visible, layer by layer but Kevin Bacon's character is so charmless and obnoxious from the off that you don't want to spend an hour and a half in his company.

Was it so successful to warrant this follow up?


Again where do these production companies find investors?

St_Eddie

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 07, 2015, 07:02:58 PM

I watched this on TV the other week and it was... well, weak.  Stupefyingly dull with few redeeming qualities.  It was one of those films that's so monumentally boring, that I spent the vast majority of its running time surfing the Internet and picking my nose, only vaguely paying attention to the yawn fest that was playing out in the background.

Not terrible as such, just a complete waste of precious, fleeting time and life.  It probably speaks volumes that it was being shown on the purveyor of generally crappy tat that is known as the horror channel.

mothman

I seem to remember feeling not totally disdainful at The Lawnmower Man 2. This may have been because it was on TV late one Saturday evening in summer, when it was really hot AND the goons in the house backing onto ours were having a full-on house-invasion party which ended with police attending.

lazarou

There's at least two in-name-only sequels to Wild Things (apologies, I just checked and there's three). A knock-off sequel's one thing, but I'm fascinated by these entire zombie franchises that seem to hobble along on a residual fondness for the original.

Bring It On has five films and a musical, each one copying from the last and with almost no recurring crew, never mind stars.

QuoteThe only sequel to feature any of the original crew from Bring It On was 2004's Bring It On Again, which shared the film's same producers. These producers did not return for the subsequent sequels, and none of the films share recurring cast members. Steve Rash also directed two of the sequels. Otherwise, none of the films in the Bring It On franchise share any personnel whatsoever.