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Final Fantasy 7 - Remake

Started by Capt.Midnight, June 16, 2015, 11:23:34 PM

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Thursday

It's a remake, I'm fine with not following everything that in the original and making changes. It can it's own thing. For me it's more about it hitting the right tone. It's encouraging that they talked about wanting to keep in some of the lighter elements at least.

Capt.Midnight

Quote from: hedgehog90 on June 18, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
I just can't imagine they'll bother with things like Chocobo breeding, Golden Saucer minigames, Yuffi's sideplot or other similarly delightful distractions.

I hope they do, because they were the best bits. The Golden Saucer pretty much epitomised western capitalism, consumerism and society's need to ignore the problems of the real world, especially as it had a slum just outside the entrance, forcing you to walk through it. And once you were inside you could spend all your gil on pointless distractions.

Also, there is no chance in hell they can re-invent Cait Sith as a cool, modern character, he was just absolutely fucking ridiculous.

Thursday

I'm still not sure what he actually is.

Johnny Textface

It was like a cat on a bin. Unnerving.

Thursday

Well it's a remote controlled plush cat riding a robot moogle, and the robot cat is being controlled by Reeve, but Reeve still seems to be able to control him while in Shinra meetings, so maybe it has some sort of auto-pilot function. But it's also supposed to be a sad thing when they sacrifice the first one's body in the temple of the ancients, but then the replacement shows up literally seconds afterwards.

The cat seems to have some distinct personality from Reeve as well at times, but not at others.

lazarou

I hope they all make a bizarrely big deal about their mobile phones.

Capt.Midnight

If someone pitched the character of Caith Sith for a new Final fantasy, I imagine they would lose their job.

Urinal Cake

'Hey I'm the new Cait Sith!'

Pseudopath

"There's plenty of stuffed toys like my body around, but there's only one me!"

Bullshit, Cait Sith. Bullshit.

Cerys

Quote from: lazarou on June 18, 2015, 11:43:15 PM
I hope they all make a bizarrely big deal about their mobile phones.

They get mobile phones in the original, once they make it to the World Map.  Presumably they can't use them in Midgar because of reasons, so getting out and suddenly being able to get signal will be a big deal.

Charles Babbage

This time, Hojo remembers to close the door behind him on the 67th[nb]I think[/nb] floor of the Shinra building. Game ends there.

Cerys

Apparently there is a hope that DLC will allow you to save Aeris.  I hope so, too.  And that doing so will be all kinds of wonderful, until the last few minutes of the game, at which point Aeris explains that no, she can't stop Meteor from crashing into the planet because she was supposed to die, and the last x number of hours of play have been a total waste.  Cue gnashing of Aeris-loving teeth.

Thursday

Tifa's much better than Aeris anyway. It's much more interesting when you realize that for the first two-thirds of the game she's not quite sure how to tell Cloud he's completely lost his mind.

I tried to replay this recently but my interest was staggered by the random battles. I haven't really touched it for seventeen years so much of the story and character stuff is very vague but what stuck with me and what was still there in spades was the atmosphere and the music. I wonder whether how the random fights will be incorporated, I really don't know what JRPG convention is now.

Cerys

Quote from: Thursday on June 20, 2015, 12:13:41 PM
Tifa's much better than Aeris anyway. It's much more interesting when you realize that for the first two-thirds of the game she's not quite sure how to tell Cloud he's completely lost his mind.

Yeah, I love that.  Each playthrough, I try to make sure that Aeris doesn't get the date with Cloud in the Golden Saucer, so he usually gets Tifa instead.  One of my additional techniques is to kill Aeris in a battle and then not heal her, so every time there's a new battle she just lies there.  It's oddly satisfying.

Mister Six

Quote from: Cerys on June 18, 2015, 02:05:07 PMTime to get a PS4, then.

Fallout 4 coming out in November not enough motivation?

Mister Six

Quote from: hedgehog90 on June 18, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
FF7 was a mammoth of a game. Anything close to a faithful remake will be a ridiculously huge task, also take into account that FF15 will be the main focus for Square during the next couple years, not this.
I just can't imagine they'll bother with things like Chocobo breeding, Golden Saucer minigames, Yuffi's sideplot or other similarly delightful distractions.
While I'd love to believe this could be something to look forward to, I estimate that the odds of a decent remake at about 1%

Nah, there's no way at all that they won't do a straight adaptation of everything in the original at the bare minimum. Probably toss in a couple of new weapons and maybe another minigame or two as well. They know how beloved this game is, and the expectations that people will have. Giving less than people got the first time around just won't be a possibility; the negative feedback will bodyslam sales.

Still doesn't mean it'll actually be GOOD, though!

Urinal Cake

Keep ATB and random battles. Also maybe ELP will sue Square now.

I know this will be still more shit than p5 but whatever. As long I get to date Barrett I'll be happy.

Consignia

Quote from: Mister Six on June 20, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
Nah, there's no way at all that they won't do a straight adaptation of everything in the original at the bare minimum. Probably toss in a couple of new weapons and maybe another minigame or two as well. They know how beloved this game is, and the expectations that people will have.

If they were really concerned about keeping it clouds to the original, they would have kept the anime aesthetic. Instead it's looking all compilation of final fantasy 7, and I think things are going to be sacrificed to match.

Thursday

I'd say get rid of random battles but keep a turn-based materia system. People will be fucking raging either way though.

Cerys

Quote from: Urinal Cake on June 20, 2015, 03:02:20 PMAs long I get to date Barrett I'll be happy.

I've never managed to date Barrett.  I've managed Tifa and Yuffie, but every time I think I've got Barrett it turns out to be Aeris again.  Bunny boiling bitch.

Consignia

Isn't it an absolute pain to get Barrett? I mean like, you'd never discover it by accident, you have to very specific things which necessitate a guide?

Does show what a kitchen sink of a game FFVII was, having dating sim elements.

Cerys

One day I shall have a date with Barrett.  One day.

hedgehog90

When I first played FF7 in 1997 and I was 7, there was nothing I wanted more than to see Cloud and Tifa fuck. I can remember watching the ending cutscene with bated breath. I just assumed they would show them do a bit of sex, it was Japanese after all! What a flippin' let down.
It was somewhat consoling though to see Red XIII with all his future kiddies, my underdeveloped sex-obsessed mind just thought "OMG HE HAD SEX!"

This was back when I believed you could see a clip of Lara Croft get naked at the end of Tomb Raider 2 if you completed it under a certain time.
Ah... those were the days.

lazarou

Getting serious flashbacks to late '90s internet from that last story there. Tifa porn EVERYWHERE

Cerys

I remember at least one playthrough in which I named her Busty.  Mind you, I also named her Fati and Aeris Arsie at least twice.  Fun times.

Consignia

When I first played through it, I rented it with a friend, as I recall he named the characters thus:

Cloud: Claude
Barret: Mr. T
Tifa: Lara C.
Aeris: Bitch Cow
Red XIII: Tiddles

I can't remember the others, but we didn't get Vincent or Yuffie. I do wish he'd picked a better name for Aeris, though, I had to finish that save with those stupid names, and later events were hard to take seriously with Bitch Cow at the forefront.

Thursday

Quote from: hedgehog90 on June 20, 2015, 06:31:47 PM
When I first played FF7 in 1997 and I was 7, there was nothing I wanted more than to see Cloud and Tifa fuck. I can remember watching the ending cutscene with bated breath. I just assumed they would show them do a bit of sex, it was Japanese after all! What a flippin' let down.
It was somewhat consoling though to see Red XIII with all his future kiddies, my underdeveloped sex-obsessed mind just thought "OMG HE HAD SEX!"


A couple of people at my school insisted if you got Cloud and Tifa to level 99 there was a scene where they had sex at the end. I mean I wanted to max out the characters anyway, and I was sure they were lying, but it didn't stop it being disappointing.

Although there is the scene at the end of disc 2 that kind of implies they do it. And I read they did cut something that implied it a lot more heavily.

hedgehog90

Quote from: Consignia on June 20, 2015, 07:20:07 PM
When I first played through it, I rented it with a friend, as I recall he named the characters thus:

Cloud: Claude
Barret: Mr. T
Tifa: Lara C.
Aeris: Bitch Cow
Red XIII: Tiddles

I can't remember the others, but we didn't get Vincent or Yuffie. I do wish he'd picked a better name for Aeris, though, I had to finish that save with those stupid names, and later events were hard to take seriously with Bitch Cow at the forefront.

In FF8 you got to name the summons, so given the opportunity I named Shiva 'your pants'.
I can remember being breathless with laughter when confronted with the line:
"I underestimated the power of your pants"

Good times.

thraxx

Quote from: Consignia on June 20, 2015, 07:20:07 PM
When I first played through it, I rented it with a friend, as I recall he named the characters thus:

Cloud: Claude
Barret: Mr. T
Tifa: Lara C.
Aeris: Bitch Cow
Red XIII: Tiddles

I can't remember the others, but we didn't get Vincent or Yuffie. I do wish he'd picked a better name for Aeris, though, I had to finish that save with those stupid names, and later events were hard to take seriously with Bitch Cow at the forefront.

This is what I called mine:

Cloud: Cocklord
Barret: Nightcock
Tifa: Flaps
Aeris: Jizzler
Red XIII: Ballbag

I still always call characters in games on of these names.