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The Adam Buxton Podcast

Started by Phil_A, September 18, 2015, 09:46:13 PM

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thr0b

Quote from: Pranet on August 07, 2020, 12:39:28 PM
Thanks for that. It downloaded the others fine for me. Of course it is the bloody Garth Jennings one I really wanted to download.

Is this the one?

https://gofile.io/d/I9uhTx

Pranet

Thanks but it isn't, it is this one-

https://www.adam-buxton.co.uk/bonus-audio/blog-post-title-one-k6ewp

It isn't that important, somehow I will find a way to struggle on without it.

Puce Moment

Genuinely surprised to find out that Buckles' kids are privately educated. I really thought he was well above that.

popcorn

Once a posho, always a posho

jsgibble

Quite liked the Zadie Smith one

Twit 2

#2195
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Puce Moment

Quote from: popcorn on August 08, 2020, 12:06:39 AM
Once a posho, always a posho

Yeah, what a shame. I imagine tons of slebs do this and I'm just not aware. A list would be helpful so I know where to spend my money.

Phil_A

Surprised there was no comment on Buckles' defence of Hilary Clinton on the Holly Walsh episode. I felt that was a bit of an "Oh, mate" moment.

Thosworth

Not being funny or nuffink, but how on earth does he afford to send three(?) kids to private school by dicking about in a shed and doing the odd Bug show? I mean fair play to him.

popcorn


beanheadmcginty

Hang on a minute. He's a person who went to private school and ended up being Adam fucking Buxton. Why the hell wouldn't he send his kids to private school? I'm in no way suggesting that private schools are a good thing, but surely it's quite easy to understand why he has done it if you put yourself in his place? He wouldn't have any of the same objections we might have. Although having read his autobiography I'm pretty sure he ensured it wasn't a boarding school.

lankyguy95

Cannot imagine giving a shit whether he sends his kids to private school.

phes

#2202
Indeed. Maybe his wife told him it was happening and he can have it or get te fuck and be a homeless. The guy can't even cook and his skills are being nice and sometimes funny. Racecar bed probably not too appealing

Thomas

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on August 08, 2020, 01:20:10 PM
Hang on a minute. He's a person who went to private school and ended up being Adam fucking Buxton. Why the hell wouldn't he send his kids to private school? I'm in no way suggesting that private schools are a good thing, but surely it's quite easy to understand why he has done it if you put yourself in his place? He wouldn't have any of the same objections we might have. Although having read his autobiography I'm pretty sure he ensured it wasn't a boarding school.

I don't care where he sends his kids, or goes to the dentist, or buys his socks, or any of that personal stuff - mainly because it's weird chatting about a man's private life on the web. It's not like he's a global household name, some fair game uber-celeb billionaire. He's ultimately a nice, funny man producing hilario work and a brilliant podcast (who lets quite a lot of personal details slip through).

But to me this particular detail is a surprise because of how self-tortuous he can be when he's trying to tread progressively, pondering anxiously about whether certain phrases are okay to say in 2020 or not. Meanwhile private schools are a huge part of the UK's system of institutional inequality. They're one of its favourite bits. Moreso than off-colour phrases or dodgy bits of comedy routines from 20 years ago.

Anyway, looking forward to listening to the Zadie Smith ep, she's great.

Puce Moment

The Zadie Smith episode is really very good, particularly when she lays into politicians with vested interests and kids in private schools. The way she speaks about free labour in response to George Floyd is great and eye opening.

Sorry, I didn't mean to derail the thread and I should have anticipated the reaction.

Sin Agog

I was surprised how many minorities there were in my half-sister's private school in Colchester (including my sister herself).  It's still a bone of contention between myself and my dad, but I get the vibe that a lot of the people in them, at least in the urban private schools, are the children of first or second-generation immigrants there because of their parents' endemic aspirational 'tudes.

thenoise

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on August 08, 2020, 01:20:10 PM
Hang on a minute. He's a person who went to private school and ended up being Adam fucking Buxton. Why the hell wouldn't he send his kids to private school? I'm in no way suggesting that private schools are a good thing, but surely it's quite easy to understand why he has done it if you put yourself in his place? He wouldn't have any of the same objections we might have. Although having read his autobiography I'm pretty sure he ensured it wasn't a boarding school.

Yeah private doesnt necessarily mean elite public school a la Eton does it? Maybe he sent them to one of those hippy places like Summerhill or a Steiner school.

Mister Six



Quote from: Puce Moment on August 08, 2020, 01:42:30 PM
The Zadie Smith episode is really very good, particularly when she lays into politicians with vested interests and kids in private schools. The way she speaks about free labour in response to George Floyd is great and eye opening.

Sorry, I didn't mean to derail the thread and I should have anticipated the reaction.

Not sure it's possible to derail the thread.

I'll give the Zadie Smith one a listen, since it's had such a good response. The George Floyd and class stuff seems like there'll be a bit more of a point to it than the last one, which just seemed like a lot of background noise.

McFlymo

The more I listen to Buckles the more I am rolling my eyes and groaning at his centrist bollocks, masked as "genuinely just curious" tone with his guests. Found the Zadie Smith one great, she's amazingly articulate and right on, without being preachy - speaking from a place of genuine empathy and experience, not just trying to be right on.

Twit 2

Quote from: thenoise on August 08, 2020, 03:25:17 PM
Yeah private doesnt necessarily mean elite public school a la Eton does it? Maybe he sent them to one of those hippy places like Summerhill or a Steiner school.

Nah, the most expensive prep and private schools in Norwich. He must be loaded. I certainly think less of him for it. Not quite Armando OBE level disappointment, just mate.

selectivememory

Quote from: McFlymo on August 08, 2020, 09:40:59 PM
The more I listen to Buckles the more I am rolling my eyes and groaning at his centrist bollocks, masked as "genuinely just curious" tone with his guests. Found the Zadie Smith one great, she's amazingly articulate and right on, without being preachy - speaking from a place of genuine empathy and experience, not just trying to be right on.

Same. There have been a few instances recently that made me wince (several in the Zadie Smith interview, who herself was great). My heart sank when I saw he'd had Helen Lewis on. Doubt I'll ever listen to that one.

popcorn

What's the problem with Helen Lewis? I'd never heard of her before.

poloniusmonk

Horrified to discover that a pleasant and charming minor public figure does not share my exact political outlook

Quote from: popcorn on August 08, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
What's the problem with Helen Lewis? I'd never heard of her before.

She's very litigious, so let's just say that she shares some views with Glinner.

selectivememory

Quote from: popcorn on August 08, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
What's the problem with Helen Lewis? I'd never heard of her before.

Just that she's another shitty centrist journalist who claims to be on the left. Also what Wayman says above (although I don't believe she's quite as extreme as Glinner in her views on that particular subject).

Sin Agog

Quote from: poloniusmonk on August 08, 2020, 10:49:21 PM
Horrified to discover that a pleasant and charming minor public figure does not share my exact political outlook

Seems to me like there's recently been a bit of culture shock between members of the forum formerly known as ACAB and Comedy Chat.  Exclusive denizens of the latter are basically laugh libertarians compared to hardline General Bullshitters.  I think we're more sad than angry that someone we like so much appears to not quite have the 'tics to match the sweet, heartfelt nature he exhibits elsewhere.  I heard that even Rosie went to an exclusive [leftover] Finishing School.

Twit 2

Listening to the Zadie Smith one now. I don't know much about her and thought she came across as extremely thoughtful and compassionate. She was spot on about private schools and I'm glad Buxton squirmed. In turn, he came across as disingenuous. I live very near Buxton and the state schools are great, so "where's the best place to send them?" thing doesn't wash with me. I know which schools Buxton's kids went/go to[nb]Nothing creepy, this has come up before: I know people who work in those schools. I'm mentioning it because it's relevant to the points Smith was making. [/nb] and I wouldn't send my kids there even if I won the lottery and money was no object; not just because I morally object to private schools, but because I know for a fact that those particular schools are breeding grounds for ultra-privileged dickheads (as I'm sure most private schools are) and I'd hate for my kids to mix with those sort of children and pick up those sort of attitudes. His kids go to private school not because "it's the best place for them (as human beings)" but because it's the best place for them to become materially successful at the expense of others, in exactly the way Smith was despairing of.

I wonder what Smith would make of the fact that the school his kids go to has/had a massive problem with racism, which was recently publicised, lots of instances of teachers being openly racist to non-white pupils. I thought it was interesting that Smith (correctly, I think) said it's up to individuals to break the cycle by not choosing the hermetic route even though it's there, then backtracked and seemed to agree with Buxton's "I only did it because they're there". I get why she did, because she is clearly very nice and was saving his embarrassment, but however awkward that was, it could have been even worse if she'd stuck to her guns.

Buxton is clearly a nice guy but Smith came across as a genuine socialist (as a result of her actual experience) and Buxton as a clueless centrist (as a result of his seeming lack of curiosity beyond his own privilege). It was frankly embarrassing at times to listen to. Interesting, though, hence the discussion.

Twit 2

Repeatedly talking about George Floyd after she's just said she's fed up of being expected to have an opinion on it was also a howler. I know he doesn't intend to do these things and he'd be mortified if he knew how it could across. Perhaps he's just a bit dim, a better prospect than him being "part of the problem", maybe.

Crabwalk

As well as being a transphobe, Helen Lewis is also quite charmless and dull isn't she? Buckles sure seemed to agree with her every utterance, mind. Would've liked him to engage with her on trans issues when they briefly came up (especially as she immediately invoked rape and physical assaults by trans women) but the topic glided swiftly past. Hmmm.

Looking forward to listening to Zadie Smith to cleanse my palate.

Pink Gregory

what I find with Buckles is that he wants to sort of please and respect everyone - admirable - but without recognising the power dynamics of different groups, the effects of class etc.  He pays lip service to the idea privilege but he doesn't seem to engage that deeply unless he's talking about his personal experiences.

I'm not expecting Marxist analysis from Adam Buxton of all people, but he pretty firmly defines on which lines he's prepared to see things.  And that's fine, it's just frustrating sometimes.